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Post by Ward on Aug 4, 2013 15:07:41 GMT -6
What are your habits? Your default position microphones, your "go-to" choices...
Here are some of mine.
Vocals... Male Baritone Rock: U87, Telefunken CU29, 47FET Male Tenor Rock: U89, Telefunken CU29 Male Cleaner vocal: U89, 414EB, M930 Female Alto/Contralto: AKG C12a Female Alto coloratura-ish: 414EB, BLUE Kiwi Female soprano 2: U89, Kiwi, 414EB, M930 Female Soprano 1: C12a, M930 Choirs: U89s, M930s, U87s for room tones Gang vocals: U87s almost always Metal Vocals: TFunk CU29, U87 Youth voice: Kiwi, M930 Backing Vocals: TLM102, TLM 170, U89
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 4, 2013 18:23:33 GMT -6
Shannon Rhoades Modded Miktek CV4
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 2:13:44 GMT -6
Bright modern: TLM 102 Dark Vintage: TLM 49 Cookie Monster: SM7B Darkhorse: TLM103 Gang vocals: TLM 103 and the TLM 49 in XY and a spaced pair of C42s
Proving myself a point: CAD E100
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Post by gouge on Aug 5, 2013 3:19:53 GMT -6
I've got 3 really.
jolly modified nt2a with daking tends to get used on male vox jolly modified ntk with vp28 tends to get used on female vox sm57 for agro
sometimes i'll use a rn17 with ma-5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 8:04:45 GMT -6
Beesneez James with internal roll off switch and Beesneez Lulu pencils.
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Post by sozocaps on Aug 5, 2013 8:54:15 GMT -6
U87 Great River Male Octavamod Apex460 Avalon 2022 female AT 4033 Great River Backgroud vocals
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Post by Martin John Butler on Aug 5, 2013 9:27:03 GMT -6
Blackspade U17, modern, a touch bright, with a nice big dose of Telefunken C12 heritage. It works well on everything, besides, it's all I could afford anyway. I have a Gauge USA U87 clone. I only use it occasionally for acoustics, just to have a mic hitting at different frequencies for a little tonal variety, even though the U17 sounds "better".
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Post by grummy on Aug 5, 2013 11:32:16 GMT -6
Usually - Blue Kiwi For a natural tight vocal (or anything) - TLM-127 If wanting to punch the top end - Modded APEX460 If I need isolation - MD441U, or SM7b
But I'll also get use in my collection from - Blue Dragonfly, Advanced Audio fet47, M-Audio Sputnik.
I'd like to get my hands on one of the higher end tube mics available to see what (if) I'm missing though.
Had a chance to briefly listen to an AT5040 in the local shop. The rep left a loaner for a bit. I was pretty pleased with the little I heard there next to a U87ai. The clips of the shootout the staff did (listening on Genelecs) were impressive. I hands down preferred the 5040 on those clips. Including female voice. That said it was in the store and I wasn't there when they performed the shootout to see how "scientific" they were. The vocalist said she was a good 10" away from the mics though. FOr folk pop like she was singing I'd tend to mic closer myself. But if she was truely that far away from the mics when singing the AT was crazy rich and full in the mid range. The U87ai sounded pretty thin, no too surprising from somewhere between 10"-to a foot away from the mic.
Anyone out there get any actual hands on with the 5040? Thoughts? Don't mean to hijack just figured it's on topic as I think it might be a serious go-to vocal mic contender.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 14:13:46 GMT -6
Damn I almost bought a 127, I think my next purchase will be buying 2 of everything off www.guage-usa.com
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Post by grummy on Aug 5, 2013 15:27:25 GMT -6
the 127 is a nice neutral sounding mic. Fairly flat and unhyped. I kind of consider it more of an instrument mic than anything (but it's more than useful for vocals). If I'm not sure what I'm walking into it's my first choice. I know it'll sound great but not stray far from what's going into it.
I looked at that Guage website. I only listened to the samples of thier "U47" mic and the samples turned me way off. In their comparisons it was actually brighter than the c12. Kind of made my fillings buzz. As far as I know that's not at all what a real U47 is supposed to be. To me it just sounded like another really bright cheap condenser. If their u47 samples were any indication, you'd probably be better served taking that money and buying one decent mic. One of the many mentioned above perhaps. If you need a stereo pair save up for a decent pair. That Gauge company looks like they are just selling the same mics APEX, Nady, and the like are. Sort of lowest common denominator mics. MXL would probably even be better.
If you haven't heard of them check out Advanced Audio. They take those kinds of mics and then mod them to sound much better then they do stock. They come highly recommended. I have a pair of Dave's mics I'm happy with and I'd like to try his take on the U47 myself sometime. His mics are double the price of that Guage stuff but most likely worth the price bump, (based on the Guage samples I listened too). You'd have better luck with Peluso too I'd guess.
Speaking of modded mics there's a thread on here about someone modding a Miktek tube mic that reads promising. There are samples in that thread too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 15:40:01 GMT -6
Check the ECM 84
I liked them, for sure brighter but I did like them. I also want to try the KELs out
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Post by grummy on Aug 5, 2013 15:44:46 GMT -6
Kel look really good for the money. I'd def like to try a few of their offerings too.
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Post by grummy on Aug 5, 2013 15:55:47 GMT -6
That ECM 84 looks like it's just another APEX 185 style mic. There are a handful of companies selling the exact same cheap chinese mics. Just putting different logos on them. Dave at Advanced Audio Mods tose too I believe: advancedaudio.ca/collections/fet-microphones/products/cm54 I have had some vocal use out of some small diaphragm condensers but don't really consider them go-to for vocals though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 16:39:34 GMT -6
Maybe I'll just get the Lautens. I've been looking at those for a while too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2013 21:33:05 GMT -6
I am curious about the Lauten Atlantis.
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Post by cenafria on Aug 6, 2013 1:37:15 GMT -6
I'll usually put up a dynamic, condenser and ribbon, record a little and listen back with the band. Often its the M500 with RCA ribbon, M160, RE20, SM7b, U67 or c700a. I usually record some stereo room ambience as well with the c617SET.
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Post by gouge on Aug 6, 2013 8:33:19 GMT -6
hi cenafria,
keen to hear your thoughts on the m500 with the mod. was it done be mr sank?
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Post by cenafria on Aug 6, 2013 9:25:32 GMT -6
hi cenafria, keen to hear your thoughts on the m500 with the mod. was it done be mr sank? Yes, it's the M500DX. I bought it about five years ago. A great vocal microphone. For best results you need to sing right into it. I have a foam windscreen on it and usually have to ask the singer to sing up against the foam. The singer can hold it in his or her hand. This is very important for some of the singers I record. They instantly feel more comfortable. It's great to be able to provide an excellent vocal microphone you can hold in your hand and not have to sacrifice on quality. Usually very little eq is needed. With certain singers, it can be sibilant, though. When it works for a particular voice, it is really amazing. I would say it has the smoothness of a ribbon with great definition and presence. It has a very low output. You need a clean mic pre with plenty of gain. I have come across a singer that sang so softly that I had to put something else up. I've also used as a spot mic for cymbals, although I prefer an m160 for this.
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Post by Ward on Aug 6, 2013 12:27:26 GMT -6
We're starting to get off-topic here... which is surprising, considering the simple premise.
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Post by cenafria on Aug 6, 2013 12:39:05 GMT -6
We're starting to get off-topic here... which is surprising, considering the simple premise. Whoops. Didn't realise I was straying off the topic. It is a go-to vocal microphone for me.
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Post by Ward on Aug 6, 2013 14:31:24 GMT -6
We're starting to get off-topic here... which is surprising, considering the simple premise. Whoops. Didn't realise I was straying off the topic. It is a go-to vocal microphone for me. I believe you, honest~ ;-) It's just SO easy to go off topic, one little deviation and before you know it we're talking about shaving cream and sandwiches!
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Post by gouge on Aug 6, 2013 15:55:09 GMT -6
your joking ward. how more on topic can it be? cenafria posts re a vocal mic. I ask a question re his vocal mic
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Post by Ward on Aug 6, 2013 17:17:34 GMT -6
Original: "I've also used as a spot mic for cymbals, although I prefer an m160 for this." (You're) joking ward. how more on topic can it be? cenafria posts re a vocal mic. I ask a question re his vocal mic ......... I was giving you a little poke in the ribs. You may find I'll often do that. Feel free to poke back, just avoid the face!!
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Post by cenafria on Aug 7, 2013 0:27:12 GMT -6
Original: "I've also used as a spot mic for cymbals, although I prefer an m160 for this." (You're) joking ward. how more on topic can it be? cenafria posts re a vocal mic. I ask a question re his vocal mic ......... I was giving you a little poke in the ribs. You may find I'll often do that. Feel free to poke back, just avoid the face!! Ok, gotcha, the spot mic for cybals sentence... Damn, I thought you were serious. I was thinking "Hm... He must be having a bad day..." Totally missed the irony, I have to admit... And we've completely derailed the discussion. Hee, hee...
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Post by cenafria on Aug 7, 2013 1:41:07 GMT -6
Back on topic... What I was trying to say in the post about the M500 is that the proximity effect is compensated for as it is a stage mic. You need to keep this in mind. The first time I tried the M500 I was scratching my head a little. I was unconsciously expecting something closer to an M160.
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