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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 3, 2023 6:06:41 GMT -6
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Post by seawell on Dec 3, 2023 9:10:51 GMT -6
The thumbnail is clickbait, nothing is changing at Acustica. He just runs through a couple of their new plugins 🤦🏻♂️ I was excited that something positive was happening there as I really enjoy the sound of some of their plugins but others are unusable and unstable.
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 3, 2023 9:18:37 GMT -6
Comments below the YT video indicated as much. I’ve tried ti demo their plugs a couple of times, the hype factor, but what a pita, just ended up deleting everything.
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Post by seawell on Dec 3, 2023 10:10:11 GMT -6
Comments below the YT video indicated as much. I’ve tried ti demo their plugs a couple of times, the hype factor, but what a pita, just ended up deleting everything. It's weird some are favorites of mine like the Purple EQ bundle and the Lemon Delay but others I just haven't been able to use with any consistency and I've been using their plugins for probably 10 years now so LOTS of experimentation. Honestly, I'm more frustrated with the state of Pro Audio YouTube than Acustica. I'm just so sick of the clickbait, it's such a waste of everyone's time. Anyway...I digress 🤣 |
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Post by jaba on Dec 3, 2023 15:23:33 GMT -6
I went through a phase where I tried some of their plugs - Purple, Pink, Gold, Lime, Sand. The sound was good for sure though when I tried to do a mix with nothing but their plugs there was something about the high end that didn't gel with me. Couldn't put my finger on it. Maybe it's different now, it's been a few years.
I didn't have any glitches with them really though the CPU drag alone led me back to algos and I've never looked back. I do still use the Lemon delay on occasion. It just does a thing that I've found no where else. When it's right it's perfect.
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Post by iamasound on Dec 3, 2023 16:03:10 GMT -6
Giancarlo is freaking out because his software was cracked and revealed that about 90% of the coding was dedicated to the bloat of protection encryption. Perhaps he'll ditch all that now and so perhaps the cpu hit will hit much less.
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Post by the other mark williams on Dec 3, 2023 22:58:29 GMT -6
Giancarlo is freaking out because his software was cracked and revealed that about 90% of the coding was dedicated to the bloat of protection encryption. Perhaps he'll ditch all that now and so perhaps the cpu hit will hit much less. Source? Would love to read more... |
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Post by viciousbliss on Dec 4, 2023 2:37:10 GMT -6
Giancarlo is freaking out because his software was cracked and revealed that about 90% of the coding was dedicated to the bloat of protection encryption. Perhaps he'll ditch all that now and so perhaps the cpu hit will hit much less. Source? Would love to read more... It's all over the sister forum of the main crack site that I believe Giancarlo has posted on himself in the past. There's some discussion on the Acustica Facebook group too I read. Someone on the purple site mentioned it as well in the Midnight thread, I think. It would be great to get rid of all that bloat. If I recall, he claimed that the bloat didn't inflate the cpu hit at all. I know some crackers claimed to discover that the Brainworx copy protection drags down the cpu performance. Ilok plugins supposedly use less ram when the protection is removed. It's definitely possible that the copy protection causes issues at times. Too bad no one ever developed some kinda universal dsp system that everyone could develop for that had the power of a native processor. Waves Soundgrid may have been the closest, but they kept the prices astronomical even after much more powerful processors were invented. Even those processors could run hundreds of most Waves plugins. There were a handful that could only give you a few instances. H-Reverb was one, I think. A good dsp system could have solved the single core problem and the copy protection problem all at once. |
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Post by bossanova on Dec 4, 2023 8:44:13 GMT -6
Giancarlo is freaking out because his software was cracked and revealed that about 90% of the coding was dedicated to the bloat of protection encryption. Perhaps he'll ditch all that now and so perhaps the cpu hit will hit much less. Source? Would love to read more... There’s a recent Facebook thread where someone asked G how much of the 10 GB of Pink (for example) is copy protection vs the actual sound processor and G said, “A significant amount.” I read elsewhere that one plug clocking in at 12.8 GB was found to to contain 2.6(?) GB of functional content, going down further to 1.6 GB when compressed. I am also better understanding that part of the anger from this is coming from long time users who have been told by G for years that he has been working hard to optimize the code and make his products run faster/more resource efficient, and are now finding out that the horrible performance is due to embedded copy protection that was unlikely to change. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2023 8:54:08 GMT -6
Source? Would love to read more... There’s a recent Facebook thread where someone asked G how much of the 10 GB of Pink (for example) is copy protection vs the actual sound processor and G said, “A significant amount.” I read elsewhere that one plug clocking in at 12.8 GB was found to to contain 2.6(?) GB of functional content, going down further to 1.6 GB when compressed. I am also better understanding that part of the anger from this is coming from long time users who have been told by G for years that he has been working hard to optimize the code and make his products run faster/more resource efficient, and are now finding out that the horrible performance is due to embedded copy protection that was unlikely to change. Well Acustica do not even fix the bugs or update their older products for new operating systems. They just constantly release new stuff that their users have to buy and I don't even want to think about what happens to their old sessions when theirusers open them on a new computer. I guess render everything like printing it to tape? Otherwise you pretty much have an unplayable tape/daw file/etc. A lot of their plugins are just like mid algorithms with cool sampled distortion too. Or standard eqs with sampled distortion. Convolution processing where algorithms will do. Then they market their convolution based processing as superior to digital algorithms. Well analog processing can be expressed as an algorithm even if only as simplified, idealized circuits using Kirchhoff's laws. |
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Post by Quint on Dec 4, 2023 9:32:43 GMT -6
Source? Would love to read more... There’s a recent Facebook thread where someone asked G how much of the 10 GB of Pink (for example) is copy protection vs the actual sound processor and G said, “A significant amount.” I read elsewhere that one plug clocking in at 12.8 GB was found to to contain 2.6(?) GB of functional content, going down further to 1.6 GB when compressed. I am also better understanding that part of the anger from this is coming from long time users who have been told by G for years that he has been working hard to optimize the code and make his products run faster/more resource efficient, and are now finding out that the horrible performance is due to embedded copy protection that was unlikely to change. Wow. If that's true. That's kind of crazy. The cure is worse than the disease.  Makes you wonder what other plugin makers have similarly significant security bloat built in? I think people just always accepted the CPU hit because it was Acustica and there was nothing else to really compare to. The tech was what it was, and you just accepted the CPU and storage hit for the sound. I kind of made the relatively recent decision to just be done with Acustica, based on recent policies/stances that Acustica has taken, not to mention the usual headaches that continue to come with using their stuff. If this security bloat thing is true, that just helps to solidify my decision. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2023 9:49:57 GMT -6
There’s a recent Facebook thread where someone asked G how much of the 10 GB of Pink (for example) is copy protection vs the actual sound processor and G said, “A significant amount.” I read elsewhere that one plug clocking in at 12.8 GB was found to to contain 2.6(?) GB of functional content, going down further to 1.6 GB when compressed. I am also better understanding that part of the anger from this is coming from long time users who have been told by G for years that he has been working hard to optimize the code and make his products run faster/more resource efficient, and are now finding out that the horrible performance is due to embedded copy protection that was unlikely to change. Wow. If that's true. That's kind of crazy. The cure is worse than the disease. Makes you wonder what other plugin makers have similarly significant security bloat built in? I think people just always accepted the CPU hit because it was Acustica and there was nothing else to really compare to. The tech was what it was, and you just accepted the CPU and storage hit for the sound. I kind of made the relatively recent decision to just be done with Acustica, based on recent policies/stances that Acustica has taken, not to mention the usual headaches that continue to come with using their stuff. If this security bloat thing is true, that just helps to solidify my decision. A lot of plugins now have GUI bloat. All the high res rasters and gpu use. |
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Post by Quint on Dec 4, 2023 10:00:38 GMT -6
Wow. If that's true. That's kind of crazy. The cure is worse than the disease. Makes you wonder what other plugin makers have similarly significant security bloat built in? I think people just always accepted the CPU hit because it was Acustica and there was nothing else to really compare to. The tech was what it was, and you just accepted the CPU and storage hit for the sound. I kind of made the relatively recent decision to just be done with Acustica, based on recent policies/stances that Acustica has taken, not to mention the usual headaches that continue to come with using their stuff. If this security bloat thing is true, that just helps to solidify my decision. A lot of plugins now have GUI bloat. All the high res rasters and gpu use. But we're talking about security bloat, specifically. At least I was. I get that GUI bloat is a thing too though. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2023 10:23:48 GMT -6
A lot of plugins now have GUI bloat. All the high res rasters and gpu use. But we're talking about security bloat, specifically. At least I was. I get that GUI bloat is a thing too though. they encrypt the gui bloat so its bloating of bloat like a really fat guy with elephantiasis or liver failure |
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Post by Quint on Dec 4, 2023 10:26:30 GMT -6
But we're talking about security bloat, specifically. At least I was. I get that GUI bloat is a thing too though. they encrypt the gui bloat so its bloating of bloat like a really fat guy with elephantiasis or liver failure That's one way of putting it. Haha |
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Post by bobeschism on Dec 4, 2023 15:19:18 GMT -6
A lot of plugins now have GUI bloat. All the high res rasters and gpu use. But we're talking about security bloat, specifically. At least I was. I get that GUI bloat is a thing too though.
Apropos your name and profile pic, you're gonna need a bigger bloat.
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Post by Quint on Dec 4, 2023 15:23:35 GMT -6
But we're talking about security bloat, specifically. At least I was. I get that GUI bloat is a thing too though.
Apropos your name and profile pic, you're gonna need a bigger bloat.
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Post by iamasound on Dec 5, 2023 22:02:27 GMT -6
I saw this on YT. It explains much of what we're talking about here. The fellow is goofy but gets the main points across.
About gui bloat, Arturia's software can be up to a gig's worth of graphics that I'm not willing to fill up my hard drive with. On the other hand I've bought their hardware, a Polybtute, a Drumbrute Impact and a Keylab MK II and really enjoy those.
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