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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 24, 2023 11:52:10 GMT -6
Just daydreaming. Which interface is top of class right now? Not that I really want to get out of the UA front end, but it would be nice to put my Burl DA money towards something else.
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Post by notneeson on Nov 24, 2023 12:01:55 GMT -6
Just daydreaming. Which interface is top of class right now? Not that I really want to get out of the UA front end, but it would be nice to put my Burl DA money towards something else. If I had the bread and wanted to just stop thinking about converters, I’d get a Lynx Aurora N. On quick listen, I’m not sure they sound any different to the Dangerous boxes at the spot I’ve been working. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2023 12:09:07 GMT -6
apogee or lynx unless you want to run your own converters off an rme, dante, or lynx pci-e card
stereo:
lynx hilo
apogee symphony desktop and 2x6 se
the new dad ax center has thunderbolt and dante
multichannel:
lynx aurora n
apogee symphony 16x16 se should be good if they are using the lower power design from the symphony desktop
the mega expensive dad rebranded as avid mrtx interfaces are supposed to be good
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 24, 2023 14:48:53 GMT -6
Anubis by merging technologies
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Post by viciousbliss on Nov 24, 2023 16:07:59 GMT -6
I'll second the Lynx Aurora N. It just enables me to get better and better. Even just plugging a K701 into its headphone jack enables me to make stuff that translates onto anemic cheap speakers or the car stereo. I don't even use VSX anymore for the most part. Take that for what it's worth. The one issue I have with it is occasional crackling with using hardware inserts in Pro Tools HD over USB on Windows. When committing the file. Others have had the issue too. When I've emailed with Paul from Lynx about it, we haven't exactly figured out the source. The only plugin I'm inserting before the hardware insert is Maat LinPro. Nothing after usually. Some days I get no crackles and other days seemingly every committed file has one somewhere. This is at 96k with it set to safe and 2048. The manual doesn't really detail what safe, extra safe, and these usb streaming mode settings mean and so far I haven't found a great explanation of them. The Hilo manual has a section about them though. The Aurora N also is tremendous just to listen to music on and I've heard dozens of more expensive headphone listening systems at various conventions over the years.
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Post by tasteliketape on Nov 24, 2023 16:21:19 GMT -6
I'll second the Lynx Aurora N. It just enables me to get better and better. Even just plugging a K701 into its headphone jack enables me to make stuff that translates onto anemic cheap speakers or the car stereo. I don't even use VSX anymore for the most part. Take that for what it's worth. The one issue I have with it is occasional crackling with using hardware inserts in Pro Tools HD over USB on Windows. When committing the file. Others have had the issue too. When I've emailed with Paul from Lynx about it, we haven't exactly figured out the source. The only plugin I'm inserting before the hardware insert is Maat LinPro. Nothing after usually. Some days I get no crackles and other days seemingly every committed file has one somewhere. This is at 96k with it set to safe and 2048. The manual doesn't really detail what safe, extra safe, and these usb streaming mode settings mean and so far I haven't found a great explanation of them. The Hilo manual has a section about them though. The Aurora N also is tremendous just to listen to music on and I've heard dozens of more expensive headphone listening systems at various conventions over the years. Wow I’m getting that crackling on my Lynx n32 with hardware inserts . I’m on a Mac Studio thunderbolt . I have 44.1 , 48, and 88.1 sessions and get this crackling intermittent |
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Post by viciousbliss on Nov 24, 2023 16:29:02 GMT -6
I'll second the Lynx Aurora N. It just enables me to get better and better. Even just plugging a K701 into its headphone jack enables me to make stuff that translates onto anemic cheap speakers or the car stereo. I don't even use VSX anymore for the most part. Take that for what it's worth. The one issue I have with it is occasional crackling with using hardware inserts in Pro Tools HD over USB on Windows. When committing the file. Others have had the issue too. When I've emailed with Paul from Lynx about it, we haven't exactly figured out the source. The only plugin I'm inserting before the hardware insert is Maat LinPro. Nothing after usually. Some days I get no crackles and other days seemingly every committed file has one somewhere. This is at 96k with it set to safe and 2048. The manual doesn't really detail what safe, extra safe, and these usb streaming mode settings mean and so far I haven't found a great explanation of them. The Hilo manual has a section about them though. The Aurora N also is tremendous just to listen to music on and I've heard dozens of more expensive headphone listening systems at various conventions over the years. Wow I’m getting that crackling on my Lynx n32 with hardware inserts . I’m on a Mac Studio thunderbolt . I have 44.1 , 48, and 88.1 sessions and get this crackling intermittent Yup. When I've searched around, I don't think anyone has figured out the issue. I don't recall it really happening when I was only using one hardware insert and only the Fusion. Last I talked to Paul, I was telling him about using dither to make sure the Aurora N was getting 24-bits from Pro Tools instead of 32. I think it was a thread from here where someone mentioned using the Bitter plugin to see if your DAW was sending out 32, 24, or 16 bits. Are you inserting any plugins before your hardware insert? Bitter showed that once I inserted a dither plugin before the hardware insert that I was always outputting 24-bits, so no need to insert more dither plugins before any other hardware inserts. |
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Post by viciousbliss on Dec 3, 2023 14:26:29 GMT -6
Just wanted to add that I think the problem was Pro Tools. I had just been using the same session to run hardware across the mix and after deleting so many files I was getting crackling and 9073 errors. The ones about the hardrive not being fast enough or whatever. So, I just made new sessions for every separate track and now the Aurora N works flawlessly.
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Post by nick8801 on Dec 3, 2023 14:35:00 GMT -6
I feel like a Lynx fanboy on here every time a question like this pops up, but yes, I can wholeheartedly say the DA on my Aurora n is superb. It’s clear and even from top to bottom. No weird artifacts or smearing of the sound. Headphone outs are equally amazing.
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Post by sam on Dec 3, 2023 15:03:12 GMT -6
I’ve heard insane things about the Lynx Hilo. If I switched to solely mixing I would probably go for one of those
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Post by indiehouse on Dec 3, 2023 15:19:39 GMT -6
I compared a bunch including Apollo X, Motu, Dangerous and Cranesong. Landed on Lynx Aurora n.
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Post by ab101 on Dec 3, 2023 16:50:27 GMT -6
I’ve heard insane things about the Lynx Hilo. If I switched to solely mixing I would probably go for one of those When I spoke to the Lynx people, they said that the Hilo was just a very small amount better than the Aurora(n). Defintely, a Hilo will be great if only two channels are needed. |
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Post by sean on Dec 3, 2023 16:53:19 GMT -6
If you need a lot of I/O Lynx Aurora (n). For 2 channel the RME ADI-2 Pro line is nice. I’m eventually going to bite the bullet and get a ADI-2/4 Pro FS R for the house
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Post by gwlee7 on Dec 3, 2023 19:26:07 GMT -6
If I was gonna spend any more money on recording gear, is this where I should spend it? Aurora would be an upgrade both ways right AD and DA from Motu right? It’s routing can’t be any more difficult than Motu. Except for some simple two track stuff for youTube mixes, I only track. I am not mixing my own stuff.
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Post by indiehouse on Dec 3, 2023 20:29:32 GMT -6
If I was gonna spend any more money on recording gear, is this where I should spend it? Aurora would be an upgrade both ways right AD and DA from Motu right? It’s routing can’t be any more difficult than Motu. Except for some simple two track stuff for youTube mixes, I only track. I am not mixing my own stuff. I can speak to this, as I upgraded from Motu to Lynx. More difficult? No. Motu routing is more flexible. Lynx routing requires you to think differently. I’d say the sonics are an upgrade, but it’s not night and day. Rarely ever is in the last 10%. It’s a more solid, higher end piece all around. But more expensive. You get a lot for your dollar with Motu, in terms of conversion, routing and connectivity. |
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Post by bigbone on Dec 3, 2023 20:38:06 GMT -6
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Post by gwlee7 on Dec 3, 2023 21:07:46 GMT -6
If I was gonna spend any more money on recording gear, is this where I should spend it? Aurora would be an upgrade both ways right AD and DA from Motu right? It’s routing can’t be any more difficult than Motu. Except for some simple two track stuff for youTube mixes, I only track. I am not mixing my own stuff. I can speak to this, as I upgraded from Motu to Lynx. More difficult? No. Motu routing is more flexible. Lynx routing requires you to think differently. I’d say the sonics are an upgrade, but it’s not night and day. Rarely ever is in the last 10%. It’s a more solid, higher end piece all around. But more expensive. You get a lot for your dollar with Motu, in terms of conversion, routing and connectivity. To be honest, I need to continue squirreling away my money for a small live PA rig anyway. I have been playing out a lot on my own lately and am actually starting to get a little traction doing the solo performing thing. PA gear is a whole other rabbit hole.  |
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Post by thehightenor on Dec 4, 2023 1:20:39 GMT -6
Just daydreaming. Which interface is top of class right now? Not that I really want to get out of the UA front end, but it would be nice to put my Burl DA money towards something else. Towards what? I presume you'd still be keeping the Burl A/D's? My dream one day is to get a Burl Mothership 16 for 8 Burl I/O channels to go with my Crane Song HEDD 192 and Crane Song Avocet. That way I could get back into some serious channel hybrid mixing. I'd considered an RME interface to do this buy frankly the minimum is Burl or Lynx otherwise I'd rather stay ITB. I think Burl make fabulous converters! |
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Post by Darren Boling on Dec 5, 2023 11:09:11 GMT -6
Back when I had my Burl B2 AD and DA I got a Prism Lyra for a travel interface. After hearing the Prism DA I sold the Burl DA, the Lyra was more dynamic, went lower, was cleaner, and to my ears was much easier to tell what was going on in the mix. I also had the original Lynx Aurora 8 at the time, the Lyra was much better in both AD and DA. I haven't tried the new Aurora (n). I've since gone all Prism with an 8XR and Titan (both so I can run native or with HDX), I see them pop up on Reverb for cheap now and then. Front End Audio was also blowing out the Callia a while back, not sure if they still have them.
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Post by ab101 on Dec 5, 2023 12:12:39 GMT -6
Fortunately, the Aurora (n) is much better than the original Aurora which was released in 2006.
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Post by srb on Dec 5, 2023 13:06:44 GMT -6
Fortunately, the Aurora (n) is much better than the original Aurora which was released in 2006. Concur. I've owned both. Lynx is big on customer service, too. They do it right. |
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Post by bubblejackets on Dec 13, 2023 23:26:50 GMT -6
Not really answering the question but jumping on that Lynx bandwagon … picked up a Hilo recently to help on a project. Subtle differences to my ears for DA monitoring (comparing an x8). But then with outboard roundtrips I was shook haha. Hilo wasn’t bloated in high bass and separation seemed better. Looks like I’m gonna have to go back and re-print a bunch (yuk).
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Post by Omicron9 on Dec 14, 2023 8:08:35 GMT -6
I have a pair of Grace m108, and I continue to be impressed with them
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Post by seawell on Dec 14, 2023 9:50:52 GMT -6
I've always liked the sound of Dangerous D/A. The Source is a great monitor controller with their built in D/A. It's the most affordable high quality D/A I can think of.
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Post by ragan on Dec 14, 2023 10:31:59 GMT -6
I have a soft spot for the D Box that I rocked for some years. Those things were cool and I loved that DA. The Symphony MKII edged it out but I’d have no qualms using a D Box again.
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