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Post by niklas1073 on Nov 15, 2023 1:51:36 GMT -6
Very interesting the new arturia 16 rig www.arturia.com/products/audio/audiofuse-16rig/detailsGreat amount of i/o for the price. ESS converters as i understand 16 adat and what not. I have owned the small audio fuse back in tge days, really liked it though it developed some issues with locking to external adat, maybe hw issue, but my son still uses it as a 2 channel interface and works great. Been looking to expand i/o for somevtime, though i run UAD now expanding to 8x or 16x is quite steep. Been concidering motu 8a but this seem to tick some boxes including price. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 15, 2023 2:13:48 GMT -6
Interesting design with its standalone and recall capacities. Do you run multiple synths?
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Post by niklas1073 on Nov 15, 2023 3:22:30 GMT -6
Interesting design with its standalone and recall capacities. Do you run multiple synths? Its absolutely interesting aspects. At the moment I do not run multiple syths, so that part would at least for now be a waste for me. It’s the i/o capabilities I am impressed with at the first glance plus of course the possibilities you also mention. I think the price is quite reasonable. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 15, 2023 3:36:10 GMT -6
Yes, it seems versatile. I believe the ess chips are what are in the motu, so it should sound like that , meaning good.
You'd likely want to get at least one patchbay so the wear and tear of the I/o goes on it
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Post by sirthought on Nov 15, 2023 22:04:50 GMT -6
I have no idea if they are building quality kit, but I really like the designed features for this. I have been working with a synth/keyboard band and having a unit set up with all their gear would have been welcome.
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Post by niklas1073 on Nov 16, 2023 0:16:05 GMT -6
I have no idea if they are building quality kit, but I really like the designed features for this. I have been working with a synth/keyboard band and having a unit set up with all their gear would have been welcome. I must say i am a fan of arturia. Ive had their interface, which i really liked, their midi keyboards are great, use them for most of my midi stuff, and i really do like their plugs. Use some of them all the time. So I would not hesitate to pick up one of these and be concerned about the quality. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2023 7:43:30 GMT -6
This and the black lion adat expander could be good options to get a lot of inputs for cheap. Other options include used PCI/PCI-E cards and using a bunch of Yamaha remote pres or used Ferrofish, Lucid, and Antelope converters. The MOTUs seem to be gone other than the 24i and 24o.
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Post by svart on Nov 16, 2023 7:59:22 GMT -6
So it's just a Motu 828ES with 8 more line inputs?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2023 8:05:16 GMT -6
So it's just a Motu 828ES with 8 more line inputs? there’s no way it will sound the same and probably won’t have the same quality of drivers but it could be better. Motu outputs are better than Motu inputs. |
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Post by niklas1073 on Nov 16, 2023 8:58:46 GMT -6
This and the black lion adat expander could be good options to get a lot of inputs for cheap. Other options include used PCI/PCI-E cards and using a bunch of Yamaha remote pres or used Ferrofish, Lucid, and Antelope converters. The MOTUs seem to be gone other than the 24i and 24o. You are right, i didn't even know about the bla rev exp. I have bad experiences with bla to the extent that i decided never to get anything from them again. But this seem like a good concept. I mean, under 2K for 32 in and 16 out. Hard to beat that. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2023 9:03:49 GMT -6
This and the black lion adat expander could be good options to get a lot of inputs for cheap. Other options include used PCI/PCI-E cards and using a bunch of Yamaha remote pres or used Ferrofish, Lucid, and Antelope converters. The MOTUs seem to be gone other than the 24i and 24o. You are right, i didn't even know about the bla rev exp. I have bad experiences with bla to the extent that i decided never to get anything from them again. But this seem like a good concept. I mean, under 2K for 32 in and 16 out. Hard to beat that. I'd rather just get the Ferrofish and a used PCI or PCI-E card than buy from cloners. |
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Post by niklas1073 on Nov 16, 2023 9:33:06 GMT -6
You are right, i didn't even know about the bla rev exp. I have bad experiences with bla to the extent that i decided never to get anything from them again. But this seem like a good concept. I mean, under 2K for 32 in and 16 out. Hard to beat that. I'd rather just get the Ferrofish and a used PCI or PCI-E card than buy from cloners. True. Was not really familiar with ferrofish either, the pulse 16 seems like bang for the buck. |
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Post by sirthought on Nov 17, 2023 1:03:44 GMT -6
So it's just a Motu 828ES with 8 more line inputs? I'd say better. First, more up-to-date converters. This is subjective on being better, but they seem to have put something quality in there for today's tools. Second, the routing software looks much easier to use. Third, you can easily utilize those front jacks for things like re-amping and extra headphone cue mixes. It's just got a lot of convenience features. I know 828 did as well, but they've added some nice things here. |
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Post by doubledog on Jan 2, 2024 16:38:33 GMT -6
I was looking at this a little more in detail (downloaded the manual). Looks like a well thought-out interface. The ability to reconfigure the front ports to re-amp, or use as additional headphone outputs - great ideas! And it can select between 2 sets of monitors (I have a separate passive switcher I built to do this today). And 16 inputs on a single unit - that is important for recording drums without getting different clock timing due to half being on an ADAT port...!
I've got an older Apollo 16 firewire. I'm not unhappy with it, but it is FW and UA keeps messing up the drivers (even though they say it's not EOL yet). The only thing that I might miss on this Arturia, is being able to insert a reverb plugin for tracking purposes (i.e., in the UA console where it does not get recorded - only for monitoring). It says the Matrix mixer is DSP powered, but I don't think it supports any plugins/effects. I could run a reverb on an aux in Pro Tools (I've done that before - any latency just acts like pre-delay in the reverb channel).
Also, I'm assuming it allows you to monitor (at low latency) through the mixer (AFCC)? This is what I have been doing with the UA console (I mute the input channels in PT when recording and then monitor through UA console and then I can still run 512 or higher buffer in a session - otherwise I'd have to reboot - or at least restart PT - constantly because the UA drivers won't allow me to easily change on the fly). I think that's what most folks do with MOTU, RME, Antelope, etc interfaces as well?
It only appears to support 16 simultaneous inputs (@96khz - less at 192), but I could see adding another ADAT converter and just using the extra 8 ports along with the internal matrix/mixer (digital patch panel) instead of my physical patch panel (which I only use to connect in extra outboard comps or preamps - whereas 8 extra I/O might allow me to leave them connected all the time? hmmm....).
anyone have one of these and had any experience with it yet? Just curious how it is doing?
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