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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 8, 2023 17:32:44 GMT -6
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Post by the other mark williams on Nov 8, 2023 18:09:10 GMT -6
Lot of stuff included with that “Luna Pro” version. Very interesting…
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 8, 2023 18:17:23 GMT -6
Yes and no, best to demo plugs before you buy, minimize bad purchases( plugs you don’t end up using ).
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Post by the other mark williams on Nov 8, 2023 18:27:25 GMT -6
Yes and no, best to demo plugs before you buy, minimize bad purchases( plugs you don’t end up using ). Oh, I didn’t say I was going to get it - I just said there’s a lot of stuff included on top in the “Pro” version: the Ampex, Studer, API Vision, API 2500, API summing, and many, many other things. Honestly a very good deal if you try Luna and like it. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 8, 2023 18:42:31 GMT -6
I bought into and out of ua twice, so am a little jaundiced with its plug marketing. I had almost 80 plugs at one point.
But, when I reviewed what i used regularly it was about 10-15 maybe.
With the sub plan and demoing, you can certainly try either free or at very low cost before you buy.
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Post by dok on Nov 8, 2023 18:42:50 GMT -6
Whoa. Looks like UAD is coming directly for Logic's lunch.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 8, 2023 18:44:04 GMT -6
Maybe, I won’t be ditching logic for luna anytime soon !  |
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Post by theshea on Nov 9, 2023 1:04:36 GMT -6
its not clear to me: to i need a ua hardware for using this free luna version or not? how many plugins do i get with the free luna version?
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Post by javamad on Nov 9, 2023 2:46:42 GMT -6
I use Luna full time in my studio and while am using it for everything one of the best feature sets for me is how well it handles changing tempo and key of audio recordings … which is great for preproduction and experiments. I do it all the time, record at 120bpm, then try listening at 115, 125 … it just seamlessly changes in a very convincing way.
Change up or down a couple of semitones and guitars and bass sound good enough to sing to.
Obviously when you settle you’d want to re record but its so fast to experiment with …
I only remember what a pita that was with Logic … maybe its easier now … I dont know.
Anyway, 200 bucks for the ability to do that is pretty good.
Of course, of course .. they are hoping you will get tempted into buying more instruments & plugs 😀
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Post by sirthought on Nov 9, 2023 3:16:12 GMT -6
its not clear to me: to i need a ua hardware for using this free luna version or not? how many plugins do i get with the free luna version? It's pretty straight forward with what you do and don't get with free. Read the website FAQ's regarding hardware. You do not need hardware now, but the advantages of their system still lean heavily towards DSP on the tracking side. Without an Apollo, you don't get a lot of what makes tracking with it sound cool and be pretty damn fast. At least in my opinion. Then again, up to now they haven't really had people using other low latency interfaces like an RME...so maybe those people will have good experiences. Free version comes with the DAW, Oxide Tape (plugin and extension), Shape (pretty nice stock multi-instrument), and an Arpeggiator extension. That's it. But with how they are bundling their plugins these days, someone coming into it all new is able to get some really high end plugins at way better pricing than I've paid into. Or you could subscribe to Spark on/off as you have production needs and get most everything anyone would really need. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 9, 2023 3:24:56 GMT -6
its not clear to me: to i need a ua hardware for using this free luna version or not? how many plugins do i get with the free luna version? No ua hardware required for luna and sub plan plugs run natively |
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 9, 2023 3:30:48 GMT -6
You don’t need to buy ua plugs for luna as it runs 3rd party plugs.
So, you coukd just download luna, run it as is and see. i think you’ll need ua connect too to get what ever plugs that come with it.
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Post by theshea on Nov 10, 2023 4:52:59 GMT -6
ok than. i downloaded the free luna. can i only demo the api vision, atr 102 etc. with UA connect and a internet connection on?! they are off when i disconnect internet. or am i doing sonething wrong? i don‘t to mix with internet connection always on.
but … what i hear sounds good. and it sounds good quickly. the organizing, grouping and bussing with tape and console plugins within one click reach is fast boy!
although coming from logic i miss some shortcuts.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 10, 2023 5:43:06 GMT -6
I think they are uadx so on your computer and should just run. I’ll check. You fully updated/ installed them in ua connect etc.?
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 10, 2023 5:45:57 GMT -6
From ua forum, chat:
“You will need an iLok USB or USB-C key in order to store your native UADx licences and use the plugins offline. Regular USB device will not do.
On the other hand, "no additional hardware needed" means you don't have to have an iLok USB key. You can use native UAD plugins by opening iLok Cloud session (without any additional hardware) but you must be online while using them.“
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Post by theshea on Nov 10, 2023 6:00:33 GMT -6
From ua forum, chat: “You will need an iLok USB or USB-C key in order to store your native UADx licences and use the plugins offline. Regular USB device will not do. On the other hand, "no additional hardware needed" means you don't have to have an iLok USB key. You can use native UAD plugins by opening iLok Cloud session (without any additional hardware) but you must be online while using them.“ ok. bummer. i thought buying the pro bundle with the inteo price of 199$ but now not anymore. |
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Post by gwlee7 on Nov 10, 2023 6:40:26 GMT -6
These MFers are trying to get me back.
MUST. BE. STRONG.
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Post by Quint on Nov 10, 2023 9:05:23 GMT -6
From ua forum, chat: “You will need an iLok USB or USB-C key in order to store your native UADx licences and use the plugins offline. Regular USB device will not do. On the other hand, "no additional hardware needed" means you don't have to have an iLok USB key. You can use native UAD plugins by opening iLok Cloud session (without any additional hardware) but you must be online while using them.“ ok. bummer. i thought buying the pro bundle with the inteo price of 199$ but now not anymore. Luna now has a machine authorization option, which can be used instead of cloud authorization. The Ilok USB stick is still an option as well. So those two options don't require you to be online. But.... If you want to use any of those native plugins included in the Pro bundle (or any of UA's native plugins/extensions), there is no machine authorization option. Just cloud and USB stick. Given the recent change to offer machine authorization for Luna, and given how many people have requested it, I think machine authorization will eventually come for the plugins/extensions too. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 10, 2023 9:15:54 GMT -6
Why do people balk at iloks or certain types of auth?
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Post by ragan on Nov 10, 2023 9:39:28 GMT -6
I and my friends that use PT have been using iLok for like 15 years and I’ve never had or heard of a single issue with it among us. It’s something I don’t care about or ever think about.
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Post by ericn on Nov 10, 2023 9:40:55 GMT -6
Why do people balk at iloks or certain types of auth? Because most are not developers who depend on the protection for their livelihood that fuels more intresting plugins or they haven’t moved from studio to studio. When I lock first came out I had clients who were freelance that loved it because they saved a ton on cartage. Yes I lock has had problems, but find me a secure authentication system that hasn’t, that has both portability and as much universal adoption. |
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Post by jeremygillespie on Nov 10, 2023 9:40:57 GMT -6
Why do people balk at iloks or certain types of auth? I’ve wondered this myself. I have everything I can on my ilok, then bring that and another usb stick with my plug installers on it with me to other studios just in case they don’t have a plug that I want to use. And yes I always ask first if it’s cool to install a plug-in on their machine. |
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Post by ericn on Nov 10, 2023 10:06:52 GMT -6
Anyone know if UA or softube have said anything about Native and console 1 support? Just got an email from a guy who is seeing all the cheap original Console 1’s with the announcement of the 3rd generation and getting all the UA emails.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 10, 2023 10:49:32 GMT -6
I and my friends that use PT have been using iLok for like 15 years and I’ve never had or heard of a single issue with it among us. It’s something I don’t care about or ever think about. The only systemic issue was when they screwed up the switchover to their new system about 5 years ago, thought they gave everyone a free iloc, a few other trinkets snd insurance for 2 year? No other problems here: either . |
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Post by theshea on Nov 10, 2023 11:05:20 GMT -6
i don‘t want to pay another 50€ for a usb dongle. i have bought adapters enough to make my system work and its freaking me out. especially apple lately. its 2023 and i need 3 adapters to make an audiointerface and an backup external harddisk work! its either that or i would have to buy everything new every 3-5 years and dumb my STILL PERFECTLY WORKING audiointerface and hd. i know thats how business goes but we are killing our planet and environment right now. come on, not for me.
and regarding luna, seems to be a good product, but why do i have to agree to so many things when installing it? they even want to record my screen! if a product is for free it still comes with a price: your privacy your data and in the end your freedom.
and i am certainly not gonna run a system were i have to have permanent internet connection open while recording/mixing.
i am gonna delete it.
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