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Post by niklas1073 on Sept 16, 2023 9:55:33 GMT -6
Hello,
pulled the trigger on a soyuz 1973 after some weighing. Will have it probably next week. I’m actually looking to possible replacing my AT4047 with. I do like the AT a lot, and use it with other people often, but not a perfect match for my own voice. The soyuz sounds as it could be a fit for me from all ive heard so far. If the 1973 falls close enough in usage to the 4047 and wins me over, I might just swap the 4047 for a second 1973. I had the plan to get a second 4047 anyway to have a stereo pair, but never got around.
Now I wonder if anyone is using the 1973 in stereo and how you like it? where does it work where does it not?
My initial thought was to use it use it mainly on vocals, guitar cab and acoustic guitar and since I most often track acoustics in stereo, the thought of getting two popped in my mind. Just thought to get some possible feedback on the setup as there is quite a little usage documented on the web except some praising reviews.
also keen to hear if you have used them as overheads on drums?
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Post by octalsocket on Sept 16, 2023 11:09:35 GMT -6
I have a pair, and have also been recently using them as overheads - they are darker than most things, but they do still have high end. Of the things I own, they are most like a TLM 193 or the lowly Oktava MK219, though not exactly like either.
They are oddly peaky on my voice, around 7.5k or so, but I’m sibilant on most mics.
I used to have a pair of 4047’s, and of the things I used them on, I hated them on vocals - they always seemed to have numerous peaks in the high end that you couldn’t really do anything about. I didn’t mind them on most things, but they were almost never the first choice on something, either. I certainly prefer the 1973’s.
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Post by niklas1073 on Sept 16, 2023 11:37:58 GMT -6
Well this sounds great. Just as I thought I might experience it. I decided to get it exactly for the rounded top, as I find the similar issues on my voice with 4047 as you describe. Seems like I might be down the right path. I have never been a fan of mics with a lot of top end. Easily grabbing a ribbon or a tube mic for most everything. But I want to find a great fet I could be happy with. And this one sounds like checking the boxes for me…. Hopefully. Then I might just start preparing for a second 1973.
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Post by drumsound on Sept 16, 2023 22:29:49 GMT -6
Just curious, did you fellas get the silver or black models?
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Post by niklas1073 on Sept 16, 2023 23:21:47 GMT -6
Just curious, did you fellas get the silver or black models? I have a silver coming up
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Post by octalsocket on Sept 16, 2023 23:38:41 GMT -6
Silver, but the black looks great.
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Post by octalsocket on Sept 16, 2023 23:38:51 GMT -6
Silver, but the black looks great.
(double post, sorry)
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Post by niklas1073 on Sept 17, 2023 0:13:42 GMT -6
I am very impressed by the approach they have on this, the build quality (that I have so far of course only been able to judge from images) and the price.
I used to make ribbon mics for myself, even to the extent of machining the body from bare raw metals. For the price they are selling the 1973, It would have made no sense business wise in my opinion to do it, knowing the labour that goes into it making every step in house. Well, maybe yes if the retail price they have would be straight off producer to end user, but not with middle hands. So i’m super eager to get my hands on this piece. If all lines up as expected, it’s a real steal.
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Post by knucklehead89 on Sept 18, 2023 13:57:22 GMT -6
I’m also thinking about grabbing another. Mostly for Toms. My one has been stuck on guitar cabs mostly. But I did a shootout today (including the AT4047) on overheads, Toms, kick drum and room. And I liked the 1973 better in every spot compared to the AT4047. I can still see a place for the AT4047 on kick. They’re similar there but the AT4047 is a bit tighter/faster and the 1973 is a bit bigger on the bottom. Both are great. I’m not the biggest fan of the 1973’s on overheads with some of the other options I have ( but they’re still solid there) but toms they were my favorite. I mean really good there.
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Post by niklas1073 on Sept 19, 2023 9:15:39 GMT -6
I’m also thinking about grabbing another. Mostly for Toms. My one has been stuck on guitar cabs mostly. But I did a shootout today (including the AT4047) on overheads, Toms, kick drum and room. And I liked the 1973 better in every spot compared to the AT4047. I can still see a place for the AT4047 on kick. They’re similar there but the AT4047 is a bit tighter/faster and the 1973 is a bit bigger on the bottom. Both are great. I’m not the biggest fan of the 1973’s on overheads with some of the other options I have ( but they’re still solid there) but toms they were my favorite. I mean really good there. Thanks, great to hear feedback. I have used the 4047 on kick as well pairing it up with D12vr. But lately I have removed it and use only the D12vr on the kick. Most of the time I track drums with a modified glyn johns setup adding a little toms with atm250’s which are great for that propose as the sound comes from the overheads anyway. So i am really keen on trying the 1973 out as overheads. Im all into slow and bold in my productions anyway 🤣. Thinking about picking up a pair of line audio cm4’s for some tighter more neutral stuff. So ill keep the 4047 if it doesnt sell for a decent price, its a nice mick too to have in addition.
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Post by drastic on Sept 19, 2023 22:11:30 GMT -6
Just curious, did you fellas get the silver or black models? I’ve got the black, I think it looks great 👍
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Post by niklas1073 on Sept 20, 2023 4:28:51 GMT -6
Ok, just received my 1973 and hooked it up to try some vocals. This thing is awesome. I compared it with what I had standing on the floor. the AT4047 and Telefunken CU29. I personally use the CU29 a lot on my own vocals and like it. The CU29 is the soft tube thing with realy nice top end and nice clarity to it. The AT4047 which is ofcourse the one I am kind of looking to replace with this was very very different. I had expected the 1973 to be closer character wise to the AT4047 than it was. The 1073 had a bold mid push that just made it sound... big. Bigger than the CU29 which still has a bold heft to it. This was different though, not the wooly fatness of the tube mic. The AT4047 came out sounding a bit scooped and harsher in the upper mids.
So yeah, this thing looks like a keeper to me. And probably yes, going for a second one also for stereo.
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