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Post by guitfiddler on Aug 22, 2023 10:00:09 GMT -6
Does anyone have any experience with Dave’s TM-47?
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Post by robo on Aug 22, 2023 10:20:20 GMT -6
I have one. It’s a fantastic mic.
I haven’t directly shot it out with other U47’s, but based on my experience it is as good/better than others I’ve used. It seems to lean towards the open/modern side of the U47 spectrum.
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Post by guitfiddler on Aug 22, 2023 10:25:21 GMT -6
I have one. It’s a fantastic mic. I haven’t directly shot it out with other U47’s, but based on my experience it is as good/better than others I’ve used. It seems to lean towards the open/modern side of the U47 spectrum. Thanks, they offer 3 different tubes for this mic, so I’m kind of wondering. I had a Peluso 47 it was the short body with the V14 steel tube and it really sounded good especially on a singer that I was working with at the time. He had a raspy, chesty vocal that was kind of like Stapleton. When that project ended I sold some gear and that mic, now I’m looking at the U47 clones again.
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Post by robo on Aug 22, 2023 10:50:02 GMT -6
I have one. It’s a fantastic mic. I haven’t directly shot it out with other U47’s, but based on my experience it is as good/better than others I’ve used. It seems to lean towards the open/modern side of the U47 spectrum. Thanks, they offer 3 different tubes for this mic, so I’m kind of wondering. I had a Peluso 47 it was the short body with the V14 steel tube and it really sounded good especially on a singer that I was working with at the time. He had a raspy, chesty vocal that was kind of like Stapleton. When that project ended I sold some gear and that mic, now I’m looking at the U47 clones again. Interesting! I got mine used and I haven’t bothered checking what tube is in there. It sounds just the way I wanted it to, so haven’t felt compelled. I bet Dave can give you some guidance on that decision. He’s got a reputation as a very helpful guy.
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Post by drumsound on Aug 22, 2023 11:18:43 GMT -6
I'd avoid older Perlman mics with Peluso capsules. I'm not sure if that was only the TM1 model for the first several years. But, it's worth checking if you're buying used.
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Post by timcampbell on Aug 22, 2023 11:50:26 GMT -6
Well I have been making the capsule for his TM-250 since he started it and now for his TM-12a which is his version of the C12a
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Post by smashlord on Aug 22, 2023 18:29:44 GMT -6
I have a TM-47. It's fantastic. I like it better than the Flea that is at one of the rooms I work out of regularly and FWIW I liked the Flea better than a original either Telefunken or Neumann (can't remember which one... studio has both) on the same vocalist. I know, I know... ban me from NAMM, AES, and this forum.
Of course there are so many factors... particular vocalist, room, what the mics were going through, etc.. etc.. but the takeaway is it holds its weight with the big boys. If you don't need omni, its hard to go wrong!
I find it really likes going through a TG-2.
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Post by paulcheeba on Aug 22, 2023 20:24:20 GMT -6
His 47 always sounded pretty good.
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Post by Ward on Aug 23, 2023 8:48:32 GMT -6
I have a TM-47. It's fantastic. I like it better than the Flea that is at one of the rooms I work out of regularly and FWIW I liked the Flea better than a original either Telefunken or Neumann (can't remember which one... studio has both) on the same vocalist. I know, I know... ban me from NAMM, AES, and this forum. SNIP I may sound like a heretic or a lunatic saying this but I agree with the sentiment here. I don't believe that the 1950s designs were as good as microphones will ever get, so everyone else should just give up and forget innovating further. <- I do NOT believe that. Innovations will still come, microphones can improve. New designs will come. After all, who saw the C800g coming?
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Post by drumsound on Aug 23, 2023 9:51:46 GMT -6
Well I have been making the capsule for his TM-250 since he started it and now for his TM-12a which is his version of the C12a Good to know!
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Post by ericn on Aug 23, 2023 13:13:05 GMT -6
I have a TM-47. It's fantastic. I like it better than the Flea that is at one of the rooms I work out of regularly and FWIW I liked the Flea better than a original either Telefunken or Neumann (can't remember which one... studio has both) on the same vocalist. I know, I know... ban me from NAMM, AES, and this forum. SNIP I may sound like a heretic or a lunatic saying this but I agree with the sentiment here. I don't believe that the 1950s designs were as good as microphones will ever get, so everyone else should just give up and forget innovating further. <- I do NOT believe that. Innovations will still come, microphones can improve. New designs will come. After all, who saw the C800g coming? Well we are in a golden age of microphone design however the problem is from let’s say about 1995 or so the big guys who were responsible for most of the development of the last 50 years devoted most of their R&D dollars and time into how to build it cheaper after the development of the Generic Chinese mics. The funny, well maybe tragic is a better term, is that Guys like Ben , Tim , Flea and a bunch of others have found a market rediscovering how those guys used to build mics. I would absolutely love to See Tim and Ben give us their very own capsule and mic designs. You and I have always had a kinship for the sleepers and pretty much everyone who has enquired privately knows besides the clones knows I’ll always find some steal that’s a bit off the radar and a bit different. I think Tim would agree that right now our best hope for modern innovation/ evolution are probably Lewitt and AA. Both of these companies are full of former AKG talent. While we are not talking about AKG’s glory days, the results of AKG has more to do with the very higher ups. AKG had the talent and these companies have the talent and the audio biz knowledge to bring an Austrian microphone renaissance to us. For those willing to take some risks the period of 1990-1998 has a lot interesting FET LDC’s from the mid and large manufacturers, like the market of Mackie 8 buss killers almost everybody brought out a U87 killer. Best known and most excepted of these being the Shure KSM series. The problem is most of these got lost in a world of TLM103’s, easy sell it’s a cheap Neumann and then Generic Alctron.
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Post by guitfiddler on Aug 23, 2023 22:06:02 GMT -6
I still think there isn’t enough microphones companies to choose from! The options seem endless!🤪
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Post by notneeson on Aug 23, 2023 22:39:39 GMT -6
Pearlman’s “Church Mic” is cool and useful.
Not perfect for every voice, but works on many. Heck of a room mic too.
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Post by ericn on Aug 24, 2023 9:41:57 GMT -6
Pearlman’s “Church Mic” is cool and useful. Not perfect for every voice, but works on many. Heck of a room mic too. Awe man the Church mic, the real ones fall into that mythical unicorn class with the Decca modded M49’s and Doug Sax’s custom C12 based Sheffield labs mics. I have only used a real Church mic once and have always been interested in Pearlmans version.
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Post by chessparov on Aug 24, 2023 12:43:39 GMT -6
I must confess I tried it just once in 2010, at a small Audio Convention, in Culver City. Sounded really cool to me at that time. But it's been a while, so I don't remember much specifics.
Also first time I got to try the amazing Little Labs LMNOPre. Too bad that's out of production now.
Best match for me ever, on the SM7. (John L. had set up the vocal chain that way) Chris
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Post by Vincent R. on Aug 25, 2023 20:32:57 GMT -6
I can’t speak to the TM47, but I have a suped up version of his TM-1 and it sounds fantastic. Mine has a Neumann K47 and EF14 tube. It’s a nice sounding microphone.
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Post by jimroberts on Aug 26, 2023 10:46:27 GMT -6
Pearlman’s “Church Mic” is cool and useful. Not perfect for every voice, but works on many. Heck of a room mic too. Pearlman's version of the 'Church' mic is awesome. Solid build and a great big sound.
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Post by ericn on Aug 26, 2023 17:09:52 GMT -6
Pearlman’s “Church Mic” is cool and useful. Not perfect for every voice, but works on many. Heck of a room mic too. Pearlman's version of the 'Church' mic is awesome. Solid build and a great big sound. Are you trying to get me to spend money😁
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Post by seawell on Aug 26, 2023 18:07:52 GMT -6
I’ve never used a Pearlman mic but have held them in high regard based off of an album I mixed where the TM1 was used. I also thought the TM1 was the cream of the crop in the Vintage King 47 shootout years ago. That was a huge shock to me at the time! I’d love to hear more about any differences between the TM1 & TM47 from anyone with both.
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Post by Vincent R. on Aug 26, 2023 19:39:28 GMT -6
I’ve never used a Pearlman mic but have held them in high regard based off of an album I mixed where the TM1 was used. I also thought the TM1 was the cream of the crop in the Vintage King 47 shootout years ago. That was a huge shock to me at the time! I’d love to hear more about any differences between the TM1 & TM47 from anyone with both. I think it’s the TM47 in that video, and the FleA 47 and the TM47 were my favorites in that video. That and the clips from Audio Test Kitchen of the Church mic is why I started looking at the Pearlman to begin with. I just kind of fell into my TM-1.
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Post by seawell on Aug 26, 2023 22:28:36 GMT -6
I’ve never used a Pearlman mic but have held them in high regard based off of an album I mixed where the TM1 was used. I also thought the TM1 was the cream of the crop in the Vintage King 47 shootout years ago. That was a huge shock to me at the time! I’d love to hear more about any differences between the TM1 & TM47 from anyone with both. I think it’s the TM47 in that video, and the FleA 47 and the TM47 were my favorites in that video. That and the clips from Audio Test Kitchen of the Church mic is why I started looking at the Pearlman to begin with. I just kind of fell into my TM-1. You’re right Vince, it was the TM47. Very impressed by it especially against this line up:
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Post by robo on Aug 26, 2023 22:42:19 GMT -6
I’ve never used a Pearlman mic but have held them in high regard based off of an album I mixed where the TM1 was used. I also thought the TM1 was the cream of the crop in the Vintage King 47 shootout years ago. That was a huge shock to me at the time! I’d love to hear more about any differences between the TM1 & TM47 from anyone with both. A friend has a TM1 that I’ve used a few times. I’m not sure of the technical differences, but the TM1 is a bit more aggressive and colored than my TM47. Both great mics for different sources.
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Post by nnajar on Aug 27, 2023 0:44:54 GMT -6
Pearlman’s “Church Mic” is cool and useful. Not perfect for every voice, but works on many. Heck of a room mic too. Awe man the Church mic, the real ones fall into that mythical unicorn class with the Decca modded M49’s and Doug Sax’s custom C12 based Sheffield labs mics. I have only used a real Church mic once and have always been interested in Pearlmans version. We didn’t use them (we used a pair of c12a’s that the studio had just gotten and cleaned up) but I had a pair of Sheffield mics in my hand last month. I wish I had plugged one in and listened to it….
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Post by Ward on Aug 27, 2023 9:00:13 GMT -6
Awe man the Church mic, the real ones fall into that mythical unicorn class with the Decca modded M49’s and Doug Sax’s custom C12 based Sheffield labs mics. I have only used a real Church mic once and have always been interested in Pearlmans version. We didn’t use them (we used a pair of c12a’s that the studio had just gotten and cleaned up) but I had a pair of Sheffield mics in my hand last month. I wish I had plugged one in and listened to it…. (suspence rises) V.O. :"will nnajar share more of his findings with us or will we held in suspense biting our nails for some time?" Stay tuned next week for as the DP thickens.
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