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Post by kelk on Jul 27, 2023 7:17:04 GMT -6
I love my Heiserman type-19 on pretty much most things. Oh, if only it wasn't for the blue LED. The blue LED sounds pretty good aswell  |
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Post by phdamage on Jul 27, 2023 8:13:24 GMT -6
I use the Austrian Audio OC818/OC18 as a pair, and have a Beesneez 87. If we’re talking versatility, the Austrian Audio mics can take crazy SPL on a guitar cab, and they handle cymbal bashers surprisingly well for LDCs. I like them on piano too. They’re also light enough to be useful in live sound situations. If I had more of these, I’d definitely use them. For acoustic and vocals I find them a little too transparent, which is why I bought the Beesneez 87. The midrange has an instantly familiar colour, like you’ve heard on a thousand records. I’ve been debating getting a second one, or saving up for the Bu67. My only other LDC is the Vanguard v13, which I can also recommend if you want a tube option. Great on acoustic, and it can be magic on the right voice. Look up Josh Turner guitar on YouTube, he has lots of male and female vocals cut with the v13. If I was going to fly somewhere for a session and could only take one mic? Probably the OC818. you won't regret a BU67. killer mic all around. Though if I didn't have a 47 style tube mic already, it just might not be my first choice. it's not as flattering as either my Lawson or Stam 47 on vocalists usually, so it's not my first call for vocals. |
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Post by drbill on Jul 27, 2023 8:55:05 GMT -6
Unless you don't like 414's. Which I particularly don't. I'd rather have one good/great mic. Agree on 414buls but ever try the old silver 414eb? A studio in Santa Fe I did a session at once had a pair and I loved them. Great on drum OH. @ DS - yes, to be clear I was mostly referring to the buls. Although the other more modern variations qualify as well. It's been a long, loooong time since I used a brass capsule EB. If memory serves it was OK. Did the job well for what I was asking of it. For whatever it's worth - I don't think it's the teflon capsule in the buls that is the problem. Stayne at Inner Tube Audio harvests them out of old buls mics to make his mag light mics. He certainly likes em. The capsules that is. |
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Post by notneeson on Jul 27, 2023 11:04:31 GMT -6
Had a brass capsule 412 sounding pretty perfect for mono overhead the other day.
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Post by johneppstein on Jul 27, 2023 11:24:33 GMT -6
I love my Heiserman type-19 on pretty much most things. Oh, if only it wasn't for the blue LED. Paint It, Black! |
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Post by robo on Jul 27, 2023 12:59:58 GMT -6
Serrano 87 is my go-to and what I’ve suggested to friends recently. It works everywhere, gives you very mixable tracks, and is affordable.
The only downside is it takes more gain than most mics, so might not be ideal for cheap interface pres with quiet sources.
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Post by smashlord on Jul 27, 2023 16:34:21 GMT -6
Thank you everyone for your suggestions! I will be listening to lots of shootouts.
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Post by paulcheeba on Jul 27, 2023 22:46:27 GMT -6
If you’re considering an 87 then the Stam 87 T is a huge improvement.
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Post by jacobamerritt on Jul 28, 2023 0:04:46 GMT -6
Thank you everyone for your suggestions! I will be listening to lots of shootouts. Good deal offered from someone on some Austrian 818s in the Real Gear Online classifieds! |
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Post by Ward on Jul 28, 2023 11:52:10 GMT -6
This is such an AWFUL question to have to answer!! To be clear, non-tube, not overly expensive pair (close or matched) LDCs . . . #1 value is the Seranno S87s. @cseranno has magically recreated a very close clone #1 tone but not multi pattern is mics' BU87. WOW . . . I mean, just wow. He should have 500 customers here alone. Also single pattern and beyond excellent, Neumann-Gefell M930s are incredible. the Austrian Audio 818 is what AKG should be making. P.S. #1 legacy and proven reputation and good for business are Neumann U87s. Talk to @chadcox if you are serious about pristine vintage ones and price is no object! I mean, you could always buy U87AIs but they don't have something . . . oh, but they do have the something price tag! |
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Post by Ward on Jul 28, 2023 11:53:10 GMT -6
PPS . . . I don't have a stam 87T yet. And I'm gonna bet that's gonna be a game-changer for me. |
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Post by chessparov on Jul 28, 2023 12:01:12 GMT -6
I use the Austrian Audio OC818/OC18 as a pair, and have a Beesneez 87. If we’re talking versatility, the Austrian Audio mics can take crazy SPL on a guitar cab, and they handle cymbal bashers surprisingly well for LDCs. I like them on piano too. They’re also light enough to be useful in live sound situations. If I had more of these, I’d definitely use them. For acoustic and vocals I find them a little too transparent, which is why I bought the Beesneez 87. The midrange has an instantly familiar colour, like you’ve heard on a thousand records. I’ve been debating getting a second one, or saving up for the Bu67. My only other LDC is the Vanguard v13, which I can also recommend if you want a tube option. Great on acoustic, and it can be magic on the right voice. Look up Josh Turner guitar on YouTube, he has lots of male and female vocals cut with the v13. If I was going to fly somewhere for a session and could only take one mic? Probably the OC818. you won't regret a BU67. killer mic all around. Though if I didn't have a 47 style tube mic already, it just might not be my first choice. it's not as flattering as either my Lawson or Stam 47 on vocalists usually, so it's not my first call for vocals. IMHO the BU67 is a "Soul Mate mic" on me. 44 Ribbon (my First Love back when) and Samar AL-95 (more modern tone)... Are two Ribbon biggies too. Now I understand why you Guitarists have lots of Pedals. And guitars.  Chris |
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Post by Ward on Jul 28, 2023 12:03:14 GMT -6
you won't regret a BU67. killer mic all around. Though if I didn't have a 47 style tube mic already, it just might not be my first choice. it's not as flattering as either my Lawson or Stam 47 on vocalists usually, so it's not my first call for vocals. IMHO the BU67 is a "Soul Mate mic" on me. 44 Ribbon (my First Love back when) and Samar AL-95 (more modern tone)... Are two Ribbon biggies too. Now I understand why you Guitarists have lots of Pedals. And guitars. Chris Well... 45 amps 50 pedals 83 guitars BUT . . . 131 mics! |
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Post by chessparov on Jul 28, 2023 12:07:21 GMT -6
178 minus 131... Equals 47. Only a (minimum) of that left to get! Chris |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2023 15:24:39 GMT -6
IMHO the BU67 is a "Soul Mate mic" on me. 44 Ribbon (my First Love back when) and Samar AL-95 (more modern tone)... Are two Ribbon biggies too. Now I understand why you Guitarists have lots of Pedals. And guitars. Chris Well... 45 amps 50 pedals 83 guitars BUT . . . 131 mics! Seems we have a millionaire here, lend us $10.00.. |
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Post by ericn on Jul 28, 2023 17:29:05 GMT -6
Well... 45 amps 50 pedals 83 guitars BUT . . . 131 mics! Seems we have a millionaire here, lend us $10.00.. He can’t he spent it on another mic. |
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Post by Ward on Jul 28, 2023 17:38:28 GMT -6
Well... 45 amps 50 pedals 83 guitars BUT . . . 131 mics! Seems we have a millionaire here, lend us $10.00.. considering inflation and the deflation of the currency value.... I'm certain there are many here now worth millions of pesos and Hong Kong Dollars. |
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Post by Ward on Jul 28, 2023 18:14:05 GMT -6
Seems we have a millionaire here, lend us $10.00.. He can’t he spent it on another mic. Says you. yesterday morning, outside at the garden . . . delivery guy shows up with a small box. Wife (teacher, off for the summer) says "Let me guess, another mic?" and starts laughing. She knows me too well. So about that $10. Paypal ok? 5% per week for the Vig. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2023 18:16:25 GMT -6
So about that $10. Paypal ok? 5% per week for the Vig. Now I understand why you have so many mic's, Ward the shark..  |
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Post by nnajar on Jul 29, 2023 15:45:35 GMT -6
Tlm170, U89 or U87 is unless you can do a pair of reissue 67s or 49s.
89 is my pick but many people prefer the 170. I’m also really happy with an 87 but I’m likely to reach for the others first.
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Post by chessparov on Jul 29, 2023 17:44:28 GMT -6
Seems we have a millionaire here, lend us $10.00.. considering inflation and the deflation of the currency value.... I'm certain there are many here now worth millions of pesos and Hong Kong Dollars. Anything I have a Yen for. I get. I spend. Therefore I am. (Shoot that's rather profane) Chris |
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Post by paulcheeba on Jul 29, 2023 20:23:17 GMT -6
There are Chandler REDD mics going for 3k used. That is a great all round mic with a killer built in pre.
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Post by yotonic on Jul 29, 2023 21:32:08 GMT -6
Vintage U87s and U67s. Buy once never need to again and get your money back plus when you sell them.
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Post by smashlord on Jul 29, 2023 23:50:07 GMT -6
Vintage U87s and U67s. Buy once never need to again and get your money back plus when you sell them. U67s would be the dream, but a touch more than I can currently justify! I do have a friend that is kind enough to let me borrow his M269 whenever, but alas he *only* has one! |
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Post by Ward on Jul 30, 2023 8:55:02 GMT -6
Vintage U87s and U67s. Buy once never need to again and get your money back plus when you sell them. U67s would be the dream, but a touch more than I can currently justify! I do have a friend that is kind enough to let me borrow his M269 whenever, but alas he *only* has one! The M269 is what I wish I had instead of a U67, but the U67 ticks off a few boxes as well. The M269 still sounds modern, 60 years after it came out. |
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