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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jul 26, 2023 0:40:37 GMT -6
Where do people find desks that a mid-sized console/mixer can fit in with a flush fit? I feel like I see photos of this stuff all the time even for less common desks. Are they just custom made?
Looking for something to put my A&H GS3000 in other than sitting on a writing desk. Works but I'd like something that feels a bit more intentional.
EDIT - Dimensions are roughly 49" x 25"
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Post by Quint on Jul 26, 2023 7:35:16 GMT -6
Where do people find desks that a mid-sized console/mixer can fit in with a flush fit? I feel like I see photos of this stuff all the time even for less common desks. Are they just custom made? Looking for something to put my A&H GS3000 in other than sitting on a writing desk. Works but I'd like something that feels a bit more intentional. EDIT - Dimensions are roughly 49" x 25" From what I can tell, Argosy doesn't make one specifically for the GS3000, so you're probably looking at a custom job. Do you need additional work space on either side, or is this mostly just for aesthetics and proper work height? I ask because, though I don't know if the GS3000 ever had or could take legs, IF you don't need the extra workspace and IF the GS3000 has bolt holes meant to attach accessory legs to, you could have some custom legs made and probably save money going that way instead of having an entire desk custom made. Or maybe A&H still has a pair of legs sitting around that they'd sell you, assuming that legs ever even existed for these consoles in the first place? It's a bit hacky, but you could also buy a regular desk/table that otherwise suits your needs and dimensions, and then cut a GS3000-sized hole in the top. It'd require adding some additional lumber/steel support underneath, and you'd have to figure out how best to do that, but then you could just set the console right down in there. Guess it all just depends on how much you want to spend? It may be that a custom desk is the only solution that will make you completely happy, but it'll obviously be more expensive. Edit: It looks like maybe Omnirax might sell one, though I can't tell if they have one specifically made for the GS3000 or not. If not, you might be in the same boat as you'd be in with Argosy, which is lots of money spent for a desk that just fits "okay". omnirax.com/technical/product-category/music-studio-furniture/mixing/Anyway, I saw this Reverb ad that had a GS3000 with an Omnirax desk, so it sent me down an Omnirax wormhole. reverb.com/item/3165485-allen-heath-gs3000-w-omnirax-desk
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Post by ericn on Jul 26, 2023 8:09:41 GMT -6
Find a local cabinet builder. Get something truly custom that fits works for you. The best desks are built around the console frame, if I can have it on site the build is much simpler.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jul 26, 2023 9:54:51 GMT -6
Where do people find desks that a mid-sized console/mixer can fit in with a flush fit? I feel like I see photos of this stuff all the time even for less common desks. Are they just custom made? Looking for something to put my A&H GS3000 in other than sitting on a writing desk. Works but I'd like something that feels a bit more intentional. EDIT - Dimensions are roughly 49" x 25" From what I can tell, Argosy doesn't make one specifically for the GS3000, so you're probably looking at a custom job. Do you need additional work space on either side, or is this mostly just for aesthetics and proper work height? I ask because, though I don't know if the GS3000 ever had or could take legs, IF you don't need the extra workspace and IF the GS3000 has bolt holes meant to attach accessory legs to, you could have some custom legs made and probably save money going that way instead of having an entire desk custom made. Or maybe A&H still has a pair of legs sitting around that they'd sell you, assuming that legs ever even existed for these consoles in the first place? It's a bit hacky, but you could also buy a regular desk/table that otherwise suits your needs and dimensions, and then cut a GS3000-sized hole in the top. It'd require adding some additional lumber/steel support underneath, and you'd have to figure out how best to do that, but then you could just set the console right down in there. Guess it all just depends on how much you want to spend? It may be that a custom desk is the only solution that will make you completely happy, but it'll obviously be more expensive. Edit: It looks like maybe Omnirax might sell one, though I can't tell if they have one specifically made for the GS3000 or not. If not, you might be in the same boat as you'd be in with Argosy, which is lots of money spent for a desk that just fits "okay". omnirax.com/technical/product-category/music-studio-furniture/mixing/Anyway, I saw this Reverb ad that had a GS3000 with an Omnirax desk, so it sent me down an Omnirax wormhole. reverb.com/item/3165485-allen-heath-gs3000-w-omnirax-deskThat omnirax site is tricky to navigate, I'll try again on my desktop... maybe an iPhone thing. But yeah, mainly it's a matter of proper working height and just general stability. Not a huge deal I suppose but I if end up really settling in on a console based work flow, I'm gonna need a solution. Perhaps there's no real way around a custom build if it ends up there. Interesting idea on the legs though, I'll take a look today.
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Post by Quint on Jul 26, 2023 10:03:02 GMT -6
From what I can tell, Argosy doesn't make one specifically for the GS3000, so you're probably looking at a custom job. Do you need additional work space on either side, or is this mostly just for aesthetics and proper work height? I ask because, though I don't know if the GS3000 ever had or could take legs, IF you don't need the extra workspace and IF the GS3000 has bolt holes meant to attach accessory legs to, you could have some custom legs made and probably save money going that way instead of having an entire desk custom made. Or maybe A&H still has a pair of legs sitting around that they'd sell you, assuming that legs ever even existed for these consoles in the first place? It's a bit hacky, but you could also buy a regular desk/table that otherwise suits your needs and dimensions, and then cut a GS3000-sized hole in the top. It'd require adding some additional lumber/steel support underneath, and you'd have to figure out how best to do that, but then you could just set the console right down in there. Guess it all just depends on how much you want to spend? It may be that a custom desk is the only solution that will make you completely happy, but it'll obviously be more expensive. Edit: It looks like maybe Omnirax might sell one, though I can't tell if they have one specifically made for the GS3000 or not. If not, you might be in the same boat as you'd be in with Argosy, which is lots of money spent for a desk that just fits "okay". omnirax.com/technical/product-category/music-studio-furniture/mixing/Anyway, I saw this Reverb ad that had a GS3000 with an Omnirax desk, so it sent me down an Omnirax wormhole. reverb.com/item/3165485-allen-heath-gs3000-w-omnirax-deskThat omnirax site is tricky to navigate, I'll try again on my desktop... maybe an iPhone thing. But yeah, mainly it's a matter of proper working height and just general stability. Not a huge deal I suppose but I if end up really settling in on a console based work flow, I'm gonna need a solution. Perhaps there's no real way around a custom build if it ends up there. Interesting idea on the legs though, I'll take a look today. When I got my MCI console years ago, it didn't come with any legs, and you definitely weren't going to find any for sale anywhere, so I had to make my own. That fucker weighs like 500 lbs, so I had to be sure to make sturdy legs. Anyway, I made them out of redwood planks and bolted them on to the pre-existing bolt holes intended for the factory legs. They're still holding up 15 years later, and look pretty good, to boot, against the wood grain end panels. Were I doing it all over again, I might be looking at steel square tubing welded together, but the hardwood legs have worked fine and are plenty strong. Given the live mixing pedigree of a lot of those A&H consoles, I would have guessed that they came with legs as an option, so you might have some luck finding some factory legs, but I could be wrong about that.
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Post by theshea on Jul 26, 2023 10:24:45 GMT -6
i did my desk myself. and i am not that talented. i designed it exactly as i wanted it and let it cut at the woodshop. than it was easy assembling it myself. costed me like ~300€.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jul 26, 2023 11:27:33 GMT -6
i did my desk myself. and i am not that talented. i designed it exactly as i wanted it and let it cut at the woodshop. than it was easy assembling it myself. costed me like ~300€. Any pictures? I'd love to see how it came out! I need inspiration. I actually have a cousin who is a woodworker but he lives in Atlanta, I wonder if I just send him some ideas and dimensions if he could just build something and ship it to me.
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Post by ericn on Jul 26, 2023 11:54:31 GMT -6
i did my desk myself. and i am not that talented. i designed it exactly as i wanted it and let it cut at the woodshop. than it was easy assembling it myself. costed me like ~300€. Any pictures? I'd love to see how it came out! I need inspiration. I actually have a cousin who is a woodworker but he lives in Atlanta, I wonder if I just send him some ideas and dimensions if he could just build something and ship it to me. Most of it can be done that way, If he needs some input from someone who has done this before I’ll gladly give some input. The most important part of the design process is getting the height right here is what I do: Mesure the depth of the console frame, then start by figuring out the best height for the work surface and at the ideal height minus the depth of the console. Now let’s see if that will work by taping some cardboard with the same leg clearance to a table and see if your chair and legs will fit underneath comfortably. If not adjust till you have a comfortable compromise. I think AH has pretty good cad drawings on their website but I would double check those measurements, take pictures of any ventilation holes on the frame ! I also always remove the cheeks and arm rest and build something pretty😎. Also mesure the depth of your near fields this is the perfect time to build a nice shelf over the bridge.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jul 26, 2023 13:39:27 GMT -6
Any pictures? I'd love to see how it came out! I need inspiration. I actually have a cousin who is a woodworker but he lives in Atlanta, I wonder if I just send him some ideas and dimensions if he could just build something and ship it to me. Most of it can be done that way, If he needs some input from someone who has done this before I’ll gladly give some input. The most important part of the design process is getting the height right here is what I do: Mesure the depth of the console frame, then start by figuring out the best height for the work surface and at the ideal height minus the depth of the console. Now let’s see if that will work by taping some cardboard with the same leg clearance to a table and see if your chair and legs will fit underneath comfortably. If not adjust till you have a comfortable compromise. I think AH has pretty good cad drawings on their website but I would double check those measurements, take pictures of any ventilation holes on the frame ! I also always remove the cheeks and arm rest and build something pretty😎. Also mesure the depth of your near fields this is the perfect time to build a nice shelf over the bridge. Great advice! In the end custom probably is the way to go. Seems worth the effort.
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Post by paulcheeba on Jul 26, 2023 20:28:50 GMT -6
Mixingtable.com Is the best.
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Post by bgrotto on Jul 26, 2023 22:34:53 GMT -6
I had an excellent experience working with Jamie at M Gear Design - mgeardesign.caGot a great totally custom desk that fit my home rig perfectly, and for a surprisingly affordable price (came in quite a good bit under the 'usual' desk making candidates like Sterling, et al). I just use a small controller at home, but he offers options for larger consoles, and if your job is something he can do, I'd recommend him very highly.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jul 26, 2023 23:45:19 GMT -6
I had an excellent experience working with Jamie at M Gear Design - mgeardesign.caGot a great totally custom desk that fit my home rig perfectly, and for a surprisingly affordable price (came in quite a good bit under the 'usual' desk making candidates like Sterling, et al). I just use a small controller at home, but he offers options for larger consoles, and if your job is something he can do, I'd recommend him very highly. Seems reasonably priced. Says it ships "flat packed", what was assembly like?
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Post by theshea on Jul 27, 2023 3:15:55 GMT -6
i did my desk myself. and i am not that talented. i designed it exactly as i wanted it and let it cut at the woodshop. than it was easy assembling it myself. costed me like ~300€. Any pictures? I'd love to see how it came out! I need inspiration. I actually have a cousin who is a woodworker but he lives in Atlanta, I wonder if I just send him some ideas and dimensions if he could just build something and ship it to me. Here are some pics. As you can see from underneath, it's not very clean ;-) all DIY and i am no wood talent! but it works for me and it was cheap. i had to use another small table behind the desk, as i like my displays far away and the depth of my desk is not enough. but no big deal. all in all there are just a few parts. in the sideracks i have left storage for mics, very useful. if i want i could make it larger or smaller, as the middle parts are easily exchanged. i did invest good time in the design, looked around for other desks and dimension, as i wanted my outboardgear to have within reach of my fingers and not leave the monitor sweetspot too much. also the inclination of the sideracks is important and rather flat. maybe that one, i would to 'em a bit mor steeper next time. but its great ergonomics. Attachments:
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Post by bgrotto on Jul 27, 2023 6:45:09 GMT -6
I had an excellent experience working with Jamie at M Gear Design - mgeardesign.caGot a great totally custom desk that fit my home rig perfectly, and for a surprisingly affordable price (came in quite a good bit under the 'usual' desk making candidates like Sterling, et al). I just use a small controller at home, but he offers options for larger consoles, and if your job is something he can do, I'd recommend him very highly. Seems reasonably priced. Says it ships "flat packed", what was assembly like? Easy enough for me, a complete carpentry dummy who can barely figure out how a hammer works.
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Post by subspace on Jul 27, 2023 7:37:41 GMT -6
FYI, IKEA sells metal tube table legs for DIY table projects. I used a set under a re-claimed cabinet door to knock together a desk, then did some drop-cuts to flush fit the Audient desk and patch bays next to the Trident. Won't be confused with fine furniture, but ties the workspace together and hides the cabling. Can see the IKEA legs at the front edge here:
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