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Post by paulcheeba on Jul 7, 2023 7:11:26 GMT -6
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Post by Vincent R. on Jul 7, 2023 7:31:36 GMT -6
It's very nice Ben. I also love your vintage style connector/mount which I've seen photos of for this body kit. When I was planning a custom build it's what I was going to use. Never got around to it though. |
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Post by Ward on Jul 7, 2023 23:47:26 GMT -6
It can be done. It'll have some knobs that's for sure and it might be a bit scary looking but it can be done! SLR camera have so many functions to ensure the perfect settings that the photographer desires. Why not the same for microphones? Sadly, mic's seem to be stuck in an archaic past that is like an ice cream cone; one flavour and that's it. Imagine if the paparazzi had to carry 12 different cameras just in case the lighting was dim or there were too many shadows. I feel that this market due to it's smaller size, has been a bit left behind and the dollars simply aren't there for the R'N'D. There are so many ways to control the sonics of a microphone. Let's face it, an audio picture isn't much different that a visual picture, so why are the tools for capture so far behind the times? What can be controlled in a mic? Variable high and Low pass High filters Harmonic content Capsule frequency response and Pattern Capsule polarisation voltage can also be variable Tube type and Style ie; Metal tube and Glass tube Tube bias and cathode bypass style. Transformer type and Style ie; Torroid or ui core. Single spool or humbucking. Tertiary feedbacks or class A design Decoupling capacitor ie; Paper in oil, Film, Coltant. All of these functions could be controlled on "one Mic" and it then starts to be like an audio SLR. Imagine all of that and more in "One Mic" I have been dreaming up a mic like this for many years. It can be done but would take time and funding. (don't worry, I'm not at all afraid of others seeing this post and trying to implement these functions as most wouldn't know how or perhaps wouldn't have the machinery at their disposal to do it and others that could would have a board to convince and most boards are stuck in the box) I didn't think it was possible to dream in technicolor, yet here we are! What a fantastic idea. |
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Post by paulcheeba on Jul 8, 2023 10:22:40 GMT -6
Chandler have made most of this possible.
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Post by Ward on Jul 8, 2023 11:08:29 GMT -6
Chandler have made most of this possible. I think it's required to shout out to spock (Adam Fiore) whenever you say Chandler here. He's a very good friend of ours! |
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Post by paulcheeba on Jul 8, 2023 12:33:10 GMT -6
Yeah Adam and I are buddies too.
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Post by Ward on Jul 8, 2023 16:42:06 GMT -6
Yeah Adam and I are buddies too. Wonderful customer care specialist! Great human being, in general. Adam, spock hall yer arse in here and chat! |
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Post by spock on Jul 8, 2023 20:49:15 GMT -6
Yeah Adam and I are buddies too. Wonderful customer care specialist! Great human being, in general. Adam, spock hall yer arse in here and chat! You summoned? |
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Post by mics on Jul 8, 2023 20:54:16 GMT -6
Chandler have made most of this possible. I think it's required to shout out to spock (Adam Fiore) whenever you say Chandler here. He's a very good friend of ours! Totally different architecture. None of what I mentioned has been made available yet. |
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Post by drbill on Jul 8, 2023 22:24:09 GMT -6
Call me old fashioned. I like ONE mic for ONE sound. Or it's subset of sounds. If I want something different, I'll pull it down and change mics. Every "multi-personality" mic I've heard has been a fail for me.
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Post by mics on Jul 8, 2023 23:46:57 GMT -6
Call me old fashioned. I like ONE mic for ONE sound. Or it's subset of sounds. If I want something different, I'll pull it down and change mics. Every "multi-personality" mic I've heard has been a fail for me. Maybe that is because they are modes to alter the sound rather than actual architecture sculpture. Not altering a result but rather creating one! |
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Post by paulcheeba on Jul 9, 2023 6:15:38 GMT -6
I think it's required to shout out to spock (Adam Fiore) whenever you say Chandler here. He's a very good friend of ours! Totally different architecture. None of what I mentioned has been made available yet. The Chandler REDD has many of those tonal features Ben. Am I right spock? |
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Post by mics on Jul 9, 2023 6:43:10 GMT -6
Totally different architecture. None of what I mentioned has been made available yet. The Chandler REDD has many of those tonal features Ben. Am I right spock? The chandler features are connected with the inbuilt preamp, not actually architecture based. Wade implements the magic after the mic circuit. What I am talking about here is every conceivable architecture based possibly all in one mic. It’ll need a pilots licence to drive it but the end result will be “absolutely” controllable in the true sense of the word. |
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Post by spock on Jul 9, 2023 7:03:58 GMT -6
Totally different architecture. None of what I mentioned has been made available yet. The Chandler REDD has many of those tonal features Ben. Am I right spock? The REDD does have different tonal possibilities inherit in the design. |
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Post by Ward on Jul 9, 2023 8:39:34 GMT -6
Call me old fashioned. I like ONE mic for ONE sound. Or it's subset of sounds. If I want something different, I'll pull it down and change mics. Every "multi-personality" mic I've heard has been a fail for me. This is why we both have over 100 microphones. I share this philosophy. I used mics BU87i On percussion tracks this morning for a southern rock band I'm mixing and adding some tracks to . . . the detail is remarkable, the mids are something else. I don't like having to rely on architecture and circuitry/EQ etc to alter the capture, I'd rather pick the right tool for the capture and make minor adjustments in a mix. |
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Post by spock on Jul 9, 2023 8:47:29 GMT -6
Call me old fashioned. I like ONE mic for ONE sound. Or it's subset of sounds. If I want something different, I'll pull it down and change mics. Every "multi-personality" mic I've heard has been a fail for me. This is why we both have over 100 microphones. I share this philosophy. I used mics BU87i On percussion tracks this morning for a southern rock band I'm mixing and adding some tracks to . . . the detail is remarkable, the mids are something else. I don't like having to rely on architecture and circuitry/EQ etc to alter the capture, I'd rather pick the right tool for the capture and make minor adjustments in a mix. Choosing a different mic is tantamount to inserting a different EQ on the source, thus affecting perception of the representative capture; every microphone is a circuit after all. |
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Post by drbill on Jul 9, 2023 9:36:36 GMT -6
This is why we both have over 100 microphones. I share this philosophy. <snip> I don't like having to rely on architecture and circuitry/EQ etc to alter the capture, I'd rather pick the right tool for the capture and make minor adjustments in a mix. I've only got about 75 or so now Ward. I know....I'm a slacker.  . I gave a bunch away to a friend overseas, and sold a bunch that had decent value that I never used. Even at 75, I really have more than I need. But I still WANT over 100.... Someday I want to grow up to be like you. LOL Re: mics that "do it all".... Well, in my experience, while they may have multiple useable voicings, they have never really convinced me on the level of individual mics that have a dedicated purpose / sound. I'm not going to name names here, but for me, a dedicated choice of mic always gets me more where I want to be. I want to know the personality of a mic intimately and have a great mind picture of what it sounds like before I pull it out and put it on the stand. What I don't want is a mic that I feel might be able to "do anything", then put it up and start the experimentation process. That's my preference, and it has served me well. I feel like I can get that elusive final 10-15% that way. Yup. Old school. |
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Post by ericn on Jul 9, 2023 11:03:46 GMT -6
Call me old fashioned. I like ONE mic for ONE sound. Or it's subset of sounds. If I want something different, I'll pull it down and change mics. Every "multi-personality" mic I've heard has been a fail for me. This is why we both have over 100 microphones. I share this philosophy. I used mics BU87i On percussion tracks this morning for a southern rock band I'm mixing and adding some tracks to . . . the detail is remarkable, the mids are something else. I don't like having to rely on architecture and circuitry/EQ etc to alter the capture, I'd rather pick the right tool for the capture and make minor adjustments in a mix. You would be surprised how many have never even messed with the pad or LF roll off on a 414, or even the pattern. The mic with all the tonal options built into the mic itself might be attractive to the self recordist. Unless these controls are remote it doesn’t appeal to the guy sitting in the booth recording someone else going back and forth just isn’t that efficient or fun. |
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Post by paulcheeba on Jul 9, 2023 14:44:55 GMT -6
The Chandler REDD has many of those tonal features Ben. Am I right spock? The chandler features are connected with the inbuilt preamp, not actually architecture based. Wade implements the magic after the mic circuit. What I am talking about here is every conceivable architecture based possibly all in one mic. It’ll need a pilots licence to drive it but the end result will be “absolutely” controllable in the true sense of the word. Wherever it comes in the circuit it’s powerful or subtle. As others have mentioned running backwards and forwards for safe cracking changes is annoying but I teach the performers the controls and ask them to dial it in. I like mics and spent something silly like 70k on them last tax year. Heisermen, M49V’s plus 2 OG 47’s a U48 and 4 Fleas took care of most of that. My lockers are stupid now but getting to know them all well in my room is a martial art that I love. I recorded all my drums recently with zero eq or compression and they sound great. For me, mic choice and placement is everything. After 35 years of recording I still find it fascinating. |
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Post by ericn on Jul 9, 2023 14:50:49 GMT -6
The chandler features are connected with the inbuilt preamp, not actually architecture based. Wade implements the magic after the mic circuit. What I am talking about here is every conceivable architecture based possibly all in one mic. It’ll need a pilots licence to drive it but the end result will be “absolutely” controllable in the true sense of the word. Wherever it comes in the circuit it’s powerful or subtle. As others have mentioned running backwards and forwards for safe cracking changes is annoying but I teach the performers the controls and ask them to dial it in. I like mics and spent something silly like 70k on them last tax year. Heisermen, M49V’s plus 2 OG 47’s a U48 and 4 Fleas took care of most of that. My lockers are stupid now but getting to know them all well in my room is a martial art that I love. I recorded all my drums recently with zero eq or compression and they sound great. For me, mic choice and placement is everything. After 35 years of recording I still find it fascinating. Man I have this urge to make a road trip just to enjoy that mic locker😁 Speaking of position, in the days of being a gearpimp a common reaction to those who used the controls on a mic was “ every time I mess with them I always manage to move the mic” |
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Post by spock on Jul 9, 2023 14:54:19 GMT -6
The Chandler REDD has many of those tonal features Ben. Am I right spock ? The chandler features are connected with the inbuilt preamp, not actually architecture based. Wade implements the magic after the mic circuit. What I am talking about here is every conceivable architecture based possibly all in one mic. It’ll need a pilots licence to drive it but the end result will be “absolutely” controllable in the true sense of the word. The REDD Microphone is the preamp, the preamp is the microphone. |
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Post by mics on Jul 9, 2023 17:57:36 GMT -6
The chandler features are connected with the inbuilt preamp, not actually architecture based. Wade implements the magic after the mic circuit. What I am talking about here is every conceivable architecture based possibly all in one mic. It’ll need a pilots licence to drive it but the end result will be “absolutely” controllable in the true sense of the word. The REDD Microphone is the preamp, the preamp is the microphone. Sound's like something a Zen Master would say! lol (tongue in cheek of course) Microphone circuitry is very different from preamplifier circuitry. Microphone circuitry is impedance multiplicity and frequency bias whereas a preamplifier circuit is tonal amplification and harmonic derivative. The two do not coexist. Of course a preamplifier can alter tonal characteristics but it can only affect what is there, it can't create it. cheers |
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Post by chessparov on Jul 9, 2023 18:19:01 GMT -6
Oddly enough  ... Yesterday I was in L.A. and went to Pink's. The world famous chili dog stand. Turns out a Zen Master arrived at the same time! He told the Hot Dog vendor to... "Make him one with everything". Seizing the rare opportunity, I asked him did he ever post on any Internet Forums. The Zen Master does occasionally. But never any attachments. Chris |
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Post by spock on Jul 9, 2023 20:34:31 GMT -6
The REDD Microphone is the preamp, the preamp is the microphone. Sound's like something a Zen Master would say! lol (tongue in cheek of course) Microphone circuitry is very different from preamplifier circuitry. Microphone circuitry is impedance multiplicity and frequency bias whereas a preamplifier circuit is tonal amplification and harmonic derivative. The two do not coexist. Of course a preamplifier can alter tonal characteristics but it can only affect what is there, it can't create it. cheers The REDD Microphone is a single unit, existing as such, it is. |
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Post by mics on Jul 9, 2023 20:44:39 GMT -6
Sound's like something a Zen Master would say! lol (tongue in cheek of course) Microphone circuitry is very different from preamplifier circuitry. Microphone circuitry is impedance multiplicity and frequency bias whereas a preamplifier circuit is tonal amplification and harmonic derivative. The two do not coexist. Of course a preamplifier can alter tonal characteristics but it can only affect what is there, it can't create it. cheers The REDD Microphone is a single unit, existing as such, it is. Not trying to be the antagonist here but not true. It has a definite microphone circuit and a definite preamplifier circuit. Putting both in the same tube doesn’t make them omnipotent. Ie: a block of chocolate and some candy in the same bag; they don’t magically become Cadbury marvellous creations, they are still separate chocolate and separate candy, they just share a common housing. |
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