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Post by eq on Jun 18, 2023 15:14:16 GMT -6
I recently purchased an AS 76F a few weeks ago, looking to purchase an LA2A but think I would like to go the 500 series route ( less real estate , versatility etc etc ) . I am considering the IGS Audio One any other suggestions or anyone use the IGS One ? "Worst case scenario" I purchase an AS Opto which is far from "worst case" Thanks !
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Post by niklas1073 on Jun 18, 2023 15:40:49 GMT -6
I use the 19” rack version of the IGS one la. I have listened to comparisons between it and the 500 and the 500 also sounds great. The one la is my desert island comp. I could not really imagine recording without it. I have grown really attached to it and it’s always hooked up to one of my bae 1073 pres and stands as a combo for the majority of my vocal trackings. I also use it often for bass and guitars too, both cabs and acoustics. Great sound and the build quality is top notch. The after sales support has been really good too.
The sound is smooth and does exactly what you’d expect from a la2a. You can keep the amp coloring really subtle and still get a fat full sound if you prefer a cleaner take on it, or push it to taste.
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Post by teejay on Jun 18, 2023 18:25:50 GMT -6
I had the IGS OneLA 500 and now own the AS Opto. The IGS is a nice comp…just make make sure it has a rack with good power.
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Post by Chad on Jun 18, 2023 18:51:09 GMT -6
Don’t forget about these:
• Acme Audio XLA-500 • Tegeler Vocal Leveler 500
Tegeler stays pretty clean. The Acme gets dirty and has some real vintage vibe.
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Post by eq on Jun 18, 2023 19:37:17 GMT -6
I use the 19” rack version of the IGS one la. I have listened to comparisons between it and the 500 and the 500 also sounds great. The one la is my desert island comp. I could not really imagine recording without it. I have grown really attached to it and it’s always hooked up to one of my bae 1073 pres and stands as a combo for the majority of my vocal trackings. I also use it often for bass and guitars too, both cabs and acoustics. Great sound and the build quality is top notch. The after sales support has been really good too. The sound is smooth and does exactly what you’d expect from a la2a. You can keep the amp coloring really subtle and still get a fat full sound if you prefer a cleaner take on it, or push it to taste. Thanks for the feedback ! Micpres are my next purchase thinking 1073 style (maybe Stamaudio)
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Post by eq on Jun 18, 2023 19:38:06 GMT -6
I had the IGS OneLA 500 and now own the AS Opto. The IGS is a nice comp…just make make sure it has a rack with good power. What rack did you use with the OneLA 500 ? Thanks !
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Post by teejay on Jun 18, 2023 20:37:31 GMT -6
I had the IGS OneLA 500 and now own the AS Opto. The IGS is a nice comp…just make make sure it has a rack with good power. What rack did you use with the OneLA 500 ? Thanks ! Fredenstein Bento 6, which I believe struggled.
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Post by wiz on Jun 19, 2023 0:02:16 GMT -6
JLM LA500
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Post by niklas1073 on Jun 19, 2023 4:55:37 GMT -6
I use the 19” rack version of the IGS one la. I have listened to comparisons between it and the 500 and the 500 also sounds great. The one la is my desert island comp. I could not really imagine recording without it. I have grown really attached to it and it’s always hooked up to one of my bae 1073 pres and stands as a combo for the majority of my vocal trackings. I also use it often for bass and guitars too, both cabs and acoustics. Great sound and the build quality is top notch. The after sales support has been really good too. The sound is smooth and does exactly what you’d expect from a la2a. You can keep the amp coloring really subtle and still get a fat full sound if you prefer a cleaner take on it, or push it to taste. Thanks for the feedback ! Micpres are my next purchase thinking 1073 style (maybe Stamaudio) Yeah finding the right 1073 is probably the easier task of the chain as it’s like to be the most cloned pre out there. The stam has solid ground as you can see on this forum. Since igs is in the loop they also make a really nice 500series 73 pre and separate eq. And bae is offering a nice palette of 10XX in 500 format. The great thing is that all these brands offer slightly different tastes of the 73 and offers probably the deepest rabbit hole, but also surely something that makes you tick
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Post by unit7 on Jun 19, 2023 10:31:50 GMT -6
Dave Hill Falcon
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Post by paulcheeba on Jun 19, 2023 19:41:24 GMT -6
Leviathan or a JLM 500 but they’re more like 3A’s that sound great.
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Post by Ward on Jun 20, 2023 8:02:59 GMT -6
Don’t forget about these: • Acme Audio XLA-500 • Tegeler Vocal Leveler 500 Tegeler stays pretty clean. The Acme gets dirty and has some real vintage vibe. do you have either one of those at the moment, Chad?
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Post by Chad on Jun 20, 2023 15:22:35 GMT -6
Don’t forget about these: • Acme Audio XLA-500 • Tegeler Vocal Leveler 500 Tegeler stays pretty clean. The Acme gets dirty and has some real vintage vibe. do you have either one of those at the moment, Chad? Hi, Ward. Yes, I do. A pair of each.
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Post by Ward on Jun 20, 2023 18:14:47 GMT -6
do you have either one of those at the moment, Chad? Hi, Ward. Yes, I do. A pair of each. Fabulous! Come on with a review and some kind of overview on these, please!
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Post by eq on Jun 20, 2023 18:23:39 GMT -6
Don’t forget about these: • Acme Audio XLA-500 • Tegeler Vocal Leveler 500 Tegeler stays pretty clean. The Acme gets dirty and has some real vintage vibe. Thanks will definitely check them out !
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Post by eq on Jun 20, 2023 18:37:04 GMT -6
I considered the Falcon but with Dave Hill's passing not sure if any of his units will be available in the foreseeable future most major dealers show his products on backorder. My understanding is the falcon is more on the cleaner side, I looking for "thicker" sound.
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Post by niklas1073 on Jun 21, 2023 2:10:35 GMT -6
You are right, i am under the impression that the falcon is closer to la3a world.
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Post by Ward on Jun 21, 2023 9:47:54 GMT -6
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Post by unit7 on Jun 21, 2023 14:46:30 GMT -6
I didn't know but just googled and found an article in Sound on Sound and it's a 12AX7. Reading that article is quite an appetizer! Dave Hill is (was) king.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2023 17:43:00 GMT -6
DIYRE OLA500 is a modernized LA4 but it only has the 2:1 ratio that barely does anything.
Do not discount the dbx 560a. Dbx 160 and 1176 were very common on vocals together. Dbx 160 dug into level and 1176 to stamp down overshoots.
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Post by ironinthepath on Jun 21, 2023 18:13:51 GMT -6
Buzz Audio Essence is a really nice 500 series opto as well
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Post by ironinthepath on Jun 22, 2023 9:31:52 GMT -6
I probably mentioned this on RGO before, but it was a while ago and still true (says something!): A friend of mine has two channels of Essence, I have an SOC-20 (with transformer option) and totally love it on vocals.
At this point, I'm targeting an Essence or two in the future for a 500 series based mobile setup with API lunch box (based around two channels of Elixir pres that I already have), these units sound sort of "high class" if I had to describe them - clean but not boring, don't get in the way, capable of bringing out the fine details. I credit the fully-differential discrete opamps - not something that is common out there, as far as I can tell. I haven't tried the Potion, but have been drooling over a pair of the Tonic EQs for a while. Unfortunately, my hunger for more gear never seems to end :-)
For ineedanswers: can you comment at all on Potion vs. Essence, maybe in a different thread (don't want to hijack)? I don't recall seeing much info on that compressor.
The Buzz Audio opto designs, to my ears, are more "modern" and less "visible" (apparently uses smaller/faster optical elements) compared to classic La2a, etc. but it also seems more flexible in terms of range of attack/release/ratio, etc. The Buzz opto units can totally hang with the best of the best, in my opinion, and while in the same sonic family as La2a or derived units (CL1B?), maybe they're cousins living in the same area but certainly not living under the same roof (probably related to tube harmonics vs. pleasingly linear solid-state design). Basically, they get you in a similarly high-class neighborhood for a lot less money! To be fair, I'm still dreaming about a Tubetech CL1B, but I wouldn't trade my SOC-20 to get one (stereo, mid-sides option, it's great).
Quick Edit: this might not be fair, since I haven't tried any myself -- but out of principle I do not trust "tube" designs in the 500 series format (I want my High Tension supply to be high!). That being said, I've been meaning to look further into the Opticom, see what's "under the hood"
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Post by ab101 on Jun 22, 2023 10:58:28 GMT -6
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Post by stam on Jun 22, 2023 13:24:41 GMT -6
You can't make an LA2A in a 500 series format. It is sadly not possible due to consumption limitations on 500 series racks.
I made a 2 tube and 3 tube version and it just doesn't sound like my LA-2A, it sounds very similar to an LA-3A.
I strongly advice you get the AS 2A if you are after an LA2A sound (or mine or Warm and change the transformers and T4B cell)
Nothing wrong with the 500 series, they sound good but they are no LA2A's.
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Post by ironinthepath on Jun 22, 2023 13:37:35 GMT -6
I've been meaning to try the Leviathan as well; I've known Nathan from Atlas Pro Audio (APA) for many years, have had nothing but good experiences with him myself - highly recommended.
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