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Post by zzz000 on Jun 12, 2023 4:33:30 GMT -6
Adding a Neve 1073LB EQ in link to mode to a 1073LB preamp basically completes a full 1073 preamp signal - according to Neve. I prefer to EQ ITB so I don't really care so much for the EQ during tracking aspect, though I figure it will be handy for certain things like vox, acoustic guitars etc. Has anyone here compared the 1073LB with the 1073LB EQ in link mode even just with EQ settings flat and does it makes a noticeable improvement to the preamp sound? Is this worth sacrificing a 500 rack slot instead of another pre i.e. another 1073LB?
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 12, 2023 10:59:56 GMT -6
Nah. If you don’t need an eq, I’d just get another flavor of Neve
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Post by ab101 on Jun 12, 2023 11:58:17 GMT -6
Adding a Neve 1073LB EQ in link to mode to a 1073LB preamp basically completes a full 1073 preamp signal - according to Neve. I prefer to EQ ITB so I don't really care so much for the EQ during tracking aspect, though I figure it will be handy for certain things like vox, acoustic guitars etc. Has anyone here compared the 1073LB with the 1073LB EQ in link mode even just with EQ settings flat and does it makes a noticeable improvement to the preamp sound? Is this worth sacrificing a 500 rack slot instead of another pre i.e. another 1073LB? Welcome zzz000. Cool name by the way! |
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Post by tkaitkai on Jun 12, 2023 15:16:37 GMT -6
I know this is going to sound like heresy, but I’ve never felt like the EQ section on a 1073 added anything magical to the signal. The mic pre is awesome enough as is. Like, the EQ does add a tiny bit more vibe, but not in some crazy “holy shit” type of way.
Then again I haven’t ever used a real deal vintage Neve, so maybe that’s a different story. But apart from that, I’d rather spend the cash elsewhere.
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Post by niklas1073 on Jun 12, 2023 16:41:20 GMT -6
Joining the gospel of previous replies. On most units the EQ will add something to the sound yes. But I have also made the decision of running 1073 pres and plugin for eqing. I used to have an eq on tracking side, but never really saw the benefit compared to being able to have a few top notch pres instead.
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Post by ericn on Jun 12, 2023 17:01:02 GMT -6
8 ch of marching Neve clone pre’s here no EQ.
If anything I would want 1073 inspired filters.
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Post by Vincent R. on Jun 15, 2023 9:35:48 GMT -6
I have a reracked 1272 without EQ and AMS Neve's 1073 DPX with EQ. I honestly never record with the EQ engaged with the exception of the rolloff. I might record with a rolloff at 50hz or 80hz, depending on what I'm recording. I found it very easy to completely over do it with the 1073 EQ. As for outboard EQ, I've been loving my Link Audio SSL style channel strips for that. I have their SL4K-E01 SSL 4K style preamp with the pad set to up as a line in. It has a completely variable -6db high and low pass filter. Then I have their SLQ51X Brown SSL style EQ. It has the typical SSL 4k brown knob bands and a more dramatic fixed -12db high and low pass filter. I've got my low pass filter set to 80hz and use that a lot. I find an EQ like this more useful than the 1073. It's more subtle and easy to really dial things in. The SL4K-E01 preamp also has a slot for a color module. So I threw in a Royal Blue Colour Module (neve 1081 style). That gives me another Neve style preamp while tracking or some warmth while mixing if needed. www.linkaudiodesign.de/ |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 15, 2023 9:47:36 GMT -6
I know this is going to sound like heresy, but I’ve never felt like the EQ section on a 1073 added anything magical to the signal. The mic pre is awesome enough as is. Like, the EQ does add a tiny bit more vibe, but not in some crazy “holy shit” type of way. Then again I haven’t ever used a real deal vintage Neve, so maybe that’s a different story. But apart from that, I’d rather spend the cash elsewhere. Yeah…I’m with you. Guess I don’t have golden ears…but in the scheme of things, even if it does add some difference, it doesn’t really matter. |
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Post by Ward on Jun 16, 2023 7:12:48 GMT -6
Is everyone aware that the preamp is a 1290? The EQ is the 1073 or the 1061 or the 1081 or the 1084.
Just wondering.
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Post by sentientsound on Jun 16, 2023 7:59:14 GMT -6
I haven't used the AMS Neve 500 pre/eq options so I can just offer my experience with rack modules - as a few have mentioned the EQ is kind of the icing on the cake and not always actually helpful or universally enhancing (exception being low/high cut filters).
If your 500 space is limited I believe you'd get more out of something different, unless you really connect with the 66/73/81 eqs.
Edit: or you could try an AML 1066 module? Might be a comparable but stronger tone (transformer I/O) with different midrange and an output gain trim.
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Post by niklas1073 on Jun 16, 2023 13:58:50 GMT -6
Is everyone aware that the preamp is a 1290? The EQ is the 1073 or the 1061 or the 1081 or the 1084. Just wondering. A valid point as it’s actually somewhat confusing in the clone world. Well the 81 is an AB, so that differs some from 73/84. I have no idea if the 81 clones in general follow that circuit? Then some, like BAE uses the two stage (1272) on the pre only versions as I believe some other manufacturers also do so they are not either 1290 if we are going to be precise. Simplifying the 1290/1272 variations to call the 1073 pre only and the actual 1073 1073eq kind of makes sense to me in these days as we live in a mix of hw and plugins and we are hardly ever conversing over an actual vintage neve but clones, or better yet homages. Does it sound wise make a difference? Hard to say, would a BAE two stage be less of a 1073 compared two a three stage? BAE is still considered one of the finest clones out there and they stay pretty true to the components all and all. But I am sure your hunch is right in place, the majority of neve 10XX clone owners does for sure not know the variations and what they actually stand for. I would go as far as saying most vendors selling would likely not know the difference. |
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Post by zzz000 on Jun 17, 2023 1:01:34 GMT -6
Thanks for feedback. I will just get another preamp then. I have 5/6 slots filled in my 500 rack. API 312, API 512c, 1073LB & 2x 88RLB. Will get another 1073LB or possibly a RND 511.
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Post by thehightenor on Jun 17, 2023 1:43:36 GMT -6
Adding a Neve 1073LB EQ in link to mode to a 1073LB preamp basically completes a full 1073 preamp signal - according to Neve. I prefer to EQ ITB so I don't really care so much for the EQ during tracking aspect, though I figure it will be handy for certain things like vox, acoustic guitars etc. Has anyone here compared the 1073LB with the 1073LB EQ in link mode even just with EQ settings flat and does it makes a noticeable improvement to the preamp sound? Is this worth sacrificing a 500 rack slot instead of another pre i.e. another 1073LB? Welcome zzz000 . Cool name by the way! How do you pronounce zzz000? zaid,zaid,zaid, zero,zero,zero .....?? |
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Post by Ward on Jun 18, 2023 17:01:33 GMT -6
Welcome zzz000 . Cool name by the way! How do you pronounce zzz000? zaid,zaid,zaid, zero,zero,zero .....?? That's pretty cool. I was thinking "szzzzzzzZZZZZEERRRROOooooooo" but your idea is cooler. |
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