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Post by linas on May 31, 2023 4:17:13 GMT -6
hey
I did it yesterday and they liked it! I actually enjoyed working on it and the guy said that it sounds better and far less flat... Whatever that means haha
I'm happy, I'm gonna do mixing and mastering for money on SoundBetter - any insight on that?
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Post by Vincent R. on May 31, 2023 8:24:38 GMT -6
I like the SoundBetter format, but I'm there as a session vocalist. I don't have much insight on the mixing/mastering side of things. Best of luck with it though.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2023 10:55:19 GMT -6
Soundbetter and Fiverr for audio engineering is mostly a waste of time and money. You’re not competing against experienced pros there. They charge too much for anyone searching a freelancer site. You’re competing against people with stupid pictures wearing stupid hats who bought stuff on layaway from Sweetwater, Vintage King, or Thomman who aren’t charging enough to pay it back doing horrible work for naive customers.
Some of these online guys will charge 300 bucks to “produce” a whole record including play half the tracks, “mix” it, “master” it, and “create” the art in a pirated copy of photoshop and they can live off of 250 profit a week because they live in a third world country. Of course it will sound and look horrible.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2023 11:01:43 GMT -6
All that said just make a profile on each. Divide your hourly rate by .92 for soundbetter (5% cut and 3% payment processor fee) and .80 for fiverr (20% cut and use bank transfer to avoid PayPal 2.9% fee. Fiverr will hold your money for 2 weeks anyway unlike soundbetter) throw up samples of your work, write something saying you’re not some stupid son of a bitch with a rack of behrigner or warm gear to pay off, and just keep your profile up and respond to messages. Do not pay for the premium or pro services on each. You will not get your money back and you do not want to deal with most of the clientele there wanting to fix their horrible, unfinished home recordings. Local bands who suck usually have it more together because at least they have a band.
If you ever do get work from it from a good customer you might want to be a repeat customer, establish contact off the site for future work to save both of you money.
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Post by Vincent R. on May 31, 2023 11:22:22 GMT -6
@tomegatherion isn't wrong. The screening process on these sites seems non existent. I can't tell you how often someone comes to me after spending money already on other "pros" only to finally cave and hire me. I'm also lucky that I sit comfortably in a specific niche where the competition isn't to crazy.
Figure out your rate and post the service.
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Post by tkaitkai on May 31, 2023 13:10:36 GMT -6
Agreed with @tomegatherion.
I'm on SoundBetter and AirGigs, and while I've gotten a good amount of work from both, I vastly prefer word-of-mouth clients. I can charge more, get paid upfront, no fees aside from PayPal/Venmo/CashApp, and zero concerns about doing a ton of work and not getting paid because suddenly the client "doesn't like it."
Don't get me wrong — they're still good platforms, and definitely help for filling in the gaps, but I wouldn't want to rely on them as my sole source of work.
Dan is also right about the competition there. There are some really stellar freelancers, but they're few and far between, and it can sometimes feel like a race to the bottom. The good thing is you can list your prices, and if you set them high enough, it pretty much weeds out bottomfeeders.
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Post by notneeson on May 31, 2023 15:08:08 GMT -6
My buddy hired someone on one of these platforms. It came out ok after mastering but I found the refs to sound odd.
He hired the guy because he had worked with bands he liked but when you looked closely he was the assistant on the records that mattered. Which is fine, but I’m not sure he should have been representing himself as the force behind those productions.
It’s something I’ve seen many times where the supposed resume doesn’t match up to the results.
On the other hand, I personally know great engineers with major label assisting credits and I get why they would want to parlay that into more work.
It’s just how you go about it really matters.
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