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Post by Tbone81 on May 27, 2023 20:57:11 GMT -6
Auditioning some One15’s and I’m enjoying them quite a bit but they’re very fatiguing after extended listening. I was wondering if you guys feel the same and I’d so, have you noticed them sounding better after a good break in period?
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Post by ericn on May 27, 2023 21:13:23 GMT -6
Auditioning some One15’s and I’m enjoying them quite a bit but they’re very fatiguing after extended listening. I was wondering if you guys feel the same and I’d so, have you noticed them sounding better after a good break in period? What amp are you using?
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Post by vvvooojjj on May 28, 2023 2:17:08 GMT -6
I know two people personally how can't listen to Amphion speakers (with Amphion amps, cabling, lynx/burl conversion etc..) because they cause ear pain to them in a acoustically treated room. They are fine for me though. I own a pair. Some have said that they relax a bit after use but it could just be the mind playing tricks.
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Post by nomatic on May 28, 2023 4:55:25 GMT -6
They Mellow out over time
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2023 5:41:42 GMT -6
Auditioning some One15’s and I’m enjoying them quite a bit but they’re very fatiguing after extended listening. I was wondering if you guys feel the same and I’d so, have you noticed them sounding better after a good break in period? those metal drivers don’t stop ringing man. There’s also imd from the hard breakup
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Post by jmoose on May 28, 2023 9:53:33 GMT -6
Broken in? Probably not. No more or less then any other speaker.
Like I said in your other thread I found them to sound really un-natural and harsh... would rather mix on some $300 KRK's or NS10's.
How long have you been using them? Good chance if you don't like 'em by now you probably just don't like 'em.
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Post by jaba on May 28, 2023 10:59:23 GMT -6
I mix on One18s and NS10s and find the Amphions much easier on the ears with extended use than the Yamaha's, god love em. The 18s are a bit softer sounding though than the 15s IIRC.
I remember hearing talk of a break in period but didn't really notice it. Maybe a bit but mostly just felt like the usual cycle of getting to know a new monitor.
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Post by Tbone81 on May 28, 2023 11:07:35 GMT -6
Auditioning some One15’s and I’m enjoying them quite a bit but they’re very fatiguing after extended listening. I was wondering if you guys feel the same and I’d so, have you noticed them sounding better after a good break in period? What amp are you using? using a JW modded Adcom
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Post by ericn on May 28, 2023 13:03:10 GMT -6
Some break in helps get the suspension of most speakers settled in but those metal drivers can be rough on the ears to many. Try going a little off the tweeter axis and see if that helps a bit. Otherwise try downloading a RTA/ FFT phone app and see if you can figure out what freq range is bugging you a little DSP EQ might be the solution.
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Post by jaba on May 28, 2023 13:36:42 GMT -6
Seems to me that if you need to EQ your monitors so they don't hurt your ears, they aren't the monitors for you.
My ears are sitting roughly mid way between the tweeter and woofer. Seems the most balanced to me there. I do find they still present well even if a bit off axis so definitely worth trying.
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Post by ericn on May 28, 2023 15:29:03 GMT -6
Seems to me that if you need to EQ your monitors so they don't hurt your ears, they aren't the monitors for you. My ears are sitting roughly mid way between the tweeter and woofer. Seems the most balanced to me there. I do find they still present well even if a bit off axis so definitely worth trying. I would agree, except for a couple of things, first your end result is a combination of your room so if your room and your monitor choice result in a minor annoying peak or dip your screwed? what about actives with some slight EQ options, if I need more or less than what’s offered or a different freq ? Lastly ever looked at what’s in front of any large scale mains system, your going to EQ somewhere. The traditional reason behind not using EQ was the phase issues we are way past that.
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Post by jaba on May 29, 2023 14:01:26 GMT -6
Seems to me that if you need to EQ your monitors so they don't hurt your ears, they aren't the monitors for you. My ears are sitting roughly mid way between the tweeter and woofer. Seems the most balanced to me there. I do find they still present well even if a bit off axis so definitely worth trying. I would agree, except for a couple of things, first your end result is a combination of your room so if your room and your monitor choice result in a minor annoying peak or dip your screwed? what about actives with some slight EQ options, if I need more or less than what’s offered or a different freq ? Lastly ever looked at what’s in front of any large scale mains system, your going to EQ somewhere. The traditional reason behind not using EQ was the phase issues we are way past that. Good points. I was reacting to an earlier comment about monitors causing "ear pain" which to me indicates you're totally headed down the wrong path gear wise. I have no strong opinion on EQing the monitor chain, though have never done so myself. Should have used the Quote function...
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Post by svart on May 30, 2023 13:43:35 GMT -6
I'm one of those that can't stand Amphion's sound. It's a combination of overly low-passed tweeters yet still somehow strangely fatiguing to listen to. And yet, I can listen to NS-10's for hours.
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Post by jeremygillespie on May 30, 2023 20:24:20 GMT -6
I'm one of those that can't stand Amphion's sound. It's a combination of overly low-passed tweeters yet still somehow strangely fatiguing to listen to. And yet, I can listen to NS-10's for hours. Yeah people just hear different. I can listen to 10’s for 8 - 10 hours a day with no problem. Used to do it as an assistant all day long editing and vocal tuning. They simply don’t bother me but I know some folks who can’t go more than 30 mins on them 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by notneeson on May 31, 2023 9:07:38 GMT -6
I had a hard time listening to the CLA-10s recently in contrast to ATC 45As.
Hardly a fair fight, but boy did the mids sound peaky on the CLAs, making the ATCs seem scooped.
Anyway, I’ve done real NS-10 to ATC 25As before (different room) and not felt so baffled by the contrast.
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