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Post by gouge on May 2, 2023 7:26:16 GMT -6
I’m on the hunt for a snare mic that’s small for when space between the hats and snare gets tight.
has anyone used the 12 gauge silver on snare and have thoughts on how it sounds.
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Post by mcirish on May 2, 2023 9:00:31 GMT -6
What about the M80-SH? That's pretty small, compared to the full size.
If you want super small and light, a Line Audio CM4 is a cool option. I've never used it on snare but it works well on many sources.
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Post by drumsound on May 2, 2023 10:00:51 GMT -6
I have a pack of the original offerings of 12 gauge mics. They are kind of hard sounding, which is good sometimes and not good other times.
An Oktave MC012 is IMHO a better choice and is similarly small. You can get a pad and hypercardioid capsule for them.
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Post by eyebytwomuchgeer on May 2, 2023 10:06:15 GMT -6
I recall that Aaron Sterling used them, and probably still does. I think he was using them more as effect mics though. He posted a list of cheap mics on Instagram quite some time ago. I think if you google "Aaron Sterling cheap mics" you can see it.
Anyway, I've been meaning to pick up a couple. They're quite affordable, so, even if they don't float your boat, you won't be out a ton of cash.
In general, if the spacing is that tight between the hats and the snare, perhaps the setup needs a little tweaking. Having some space in there between the hats and snare can really help down the road in the mixing. Maybe you can't squeeze out anymore space?
Another small-ish mic to try is the Oktava 012. They're pretty small, and sound pretty good on snare with the pad. The different capsules can help with the pickup pattern.
EDIT - Of course, drumsound beat me to it and snuck in while I was posting hahaha
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Post by drumsound on May 2, 2023 10:10:26 GMT -6
I recall that Aaron Sterling used them, and probably still does. I think he was using them more as effect mics though. He Another small-ish mic to try is the Oktava 012. They're pretty small, and sound pretty good on snare with the pad. The different capsules can help with the pickup pattern. EDIT - Of course, drumsound beat me to it and snuck in while I was posting hahaha GOTCHA! |
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Post by robo on May 2, 2023 10:27:34 GMT -6
I’ve got a pair of the red omni’s and they are cool as room mics. I haven’t used them for much else.
For a tight snare fit, you might try an EV468 - it’s one of my two favorite dynamics on snare (M210 is the other). It can get in very tight spots, and due to the pleasant proximity effect, it sounds good quite close to the head. Also good on toms and amps!
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Post by gouge on May 2, 2023 17:25:03 GMT -6
Tell ya what i want, what i really really want
An e22s.
However ive got 2 oktavas (good suggestion as i like on toms) so im thinking the swivel may be worth a try to get a different angle.
Has anyone used the swivel? Think i read somewhere it affected the tone?
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Post by phdamage on May 4, 2023 21:32:28 GMT -6
For placement, try the shure beta 181. I’ve never A/B’d to the e22 but I’m awfully curious. They do cost about 1/3 as much though.
The ATM450 by audio technica is even smaller but I kinda hate how they sound. That said, I still keep a pair around for tight spots.
A good old SM98 is killer in tight spots also
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Post by phdamage on May 4, 2023 21:33:46 GMT -6
Tell ya what i want, what i really really want An e22s. However ive got 2 oktavas (good suggestion as i like on toms) so im thinking the swivel may be worth a try to get a different angle. Has anyone used the swivel? Think i read somewhere it affected the tone? I had always shied away from those swivels cuz Michael Joly of Oktavamod said they changed the sound. That said, I’d be game to try one. Though it seems awfully tough to find Oktava anything right now |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2023 3:27:53 GMT -6
Tell ya what i want, what i really really want An e22s. However ive got 2 oktavas (good suggestion as i like on toms) so im thinking the swivel may be worth a try to get a different angle. Has anyone used the swivel? Think i read somewhere it affected the tone? I had always shied away from those swivels cuz Michael Joly of Oktavamod said they changed the sound. That said, I’d be game to try one. Though it seems awfully tough to find Oktava anything right now Oktava is owned by the Russian government so you’re not going to find new ones anytime soon. |
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Post by thehightenor on May 5, 2023 4:41:09 GMT -6
Is this a novelty mic - it sure looks cute.
I've never heard of them before.
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Post by gouge on May 5, 2023 6:35:26 GMT -6
For placement, try the shure beta 181. I’ve never A/B’d to the e22 but I’m awfully curious. They do cost about 1/3 as much though. The ATM450 by audio technica is even smaller but I kinda hate how they sound. That said, I still keep a pair around for tight spots. A good old SM98 is killer in tight spots also I ended up selling my atm450 because I hated how it sounded too. Are the beta mics crispy like the atm450? oktava I’ll have to try. Has a lower freq push I like. . I’d like to find something with a small push around 250hz would also like to try a dpa 2011c mic as well. |
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Post by phdamage on May 5, 2023 7:18:42 GMT -6
For placement, try the shure beta 181. I’ve never A/B’d to the e22 but I’m awfully curious. They do cost about 1/3 as much though. The ATM450 by audio technica is even smaller but I kinda hate how they sound. That said, I still keep a pair around for tight spots. A good old SM98 is killer in tight spots also I ended up selling my atm450 because I hated how it sounded too. Are the beta mics crispy like the atm450? oktava I’ll have to try. Has a lower freq push I like. . I’d like to find something with a small push around 250hz would also like to try a dpa 2011c mic as well. Nope. The beta181 is much more even in terms of frequency response. None of that nasty/crispy top end. They’re killer mics. They do have a slightly larger footprint but they’re still pretty small |
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Post by drumsound on May 5, 2023 9:55:13 GMT -6
For placement, try the shure beta 181. I’ve never A/B’d to the e22 but I’m awfully curious. They do cost about 1/3 as much though. The ATM450 by audio technica is even smaller but I kinda hate how they sound. That said, I still keep a pair around for tight spots. A good old SM98 is killer in tight spots also Beta 181s sound great! I reviewed them for Recording Hack in 2012 link. I really should figure out how to get a pair. You can even get figure 8 capsules, which is where I'd start if only getting one set of capsules. |
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Post by phdamage on May 5, 2023 13:37:14 GMT -6
For placement, try the shure beta 181. I’ve never A/B’d to the e22 but I’m awfully curious. They do cost about 1/3 as much though. The ATM450 by audio technica is even smaller but I kinda hate how they sound. That said, I still keep a pair around for tight spots. A good old SM98 is killer in tight spots also Beta 181s sound great! I reviewed them for Recording Hack in 2012 link. I really should figure out how to get a pair. You can even get figure 8 capsules, which is where I'd start if only getting one set of capsules. Admittedly, never stuck a fig 8 on a tom batter head before. I guess since my preference is the Oktava 012 and I only use the beta181s in tight setups, I would expect the bleed might be a bit rough. I do have 2 with cardioid caps and a third with supercardioid. Haven’t noticed a huge difference in bleed but have never A/B’d them |
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Post by EmRR on May 5, 2023 14:10:41 GMT -6
F8 between 2 toms, only need 1 mic. Up/down is dead so cymbals above are way down.
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