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Post by sparkey on May 1, 2023 22:08:52 GMT -6
Anyone have any experience with this mic? Seems like it would be good on an electric guitar amp?
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Post by nudwig on May 1, 2023 22:34:56 GMT -6
I was curious about this, and the Tonelux JC37 too. I have a C38 and a Barbaric C37 clone with the Sony capsule that I love on cabs.
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Post by ab101 on May 1, 2023 23:16:45 GMT -6
And I would be curious if anyone is using the Manley Silver for guitar amps, and especially how it compares to a Sony c37a.
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Post by timcampbell on May 2, 2023 5:34:26 GMT -6
I have experience with this. If you like the Sony you would like this.
I am not a big fan of the Sony C37 but hey it was Jimi Hendrix's favorite vocal mic.
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Post by sparkey on May 2, 2023 7:38:10 GMT -6
I have the Manley silver, tried it on guitar cabs, it was ok, but prefer my stager mics. Wondering if this c37 would be better?
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Post by ab101 on May 2, 2023 9:48:30 GMT -6
I have the Manley silver, tried it on guitar cabs, it was ok, but prefer my stager mics. Wondering if this c37 would be better? I am a big fan of ribbons on guitar cabs. (Though I did like the Sennheiser MD409 but do not have one anymore.) |
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Post by drumsound on May 2, 2023 9:57:29 GMT -6
I have the Manley silver, tried it on guitar cabs, it was ok, but prefer my stager mics. Wondering if this c37 would be better? I know this is a complete overgeneralization but, if you're a ribbon on guitar amps guy, I doubt you're gonna like most condensers on guitar amps. |
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Post by ab101 on May 2, 2023 10:49:33 GMT -6
I have the Manley silver, tried it on guitar cabs, it was ok, but prefer my stager mics. Wondering if this c37 would be better? I know this is a complete overgeneralization but, if you're a ribbon on guitar amps guy, I doubt you're gonna like most condensers on guitar amps. I think you are correct. I thought the Mojave 37 or the Manley Silver might be different in that regard. What I have not done yet, is tried the Samar VL37 on guitar cab. (I have AEA mics that I have used.) |
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Post by nudwig on May 2, 2023 11:24:12 GMT -6
I have the Manley silver, tried it on guitar cabs, it was ok, but prefer my stager mics. Wondering if this c37 would be better? I know this is a complete overgeneralization but, if you're a ribbon on guitar amps guy, I doubt you're gonna like most condensers on guitar amps. I agree with this one, with the Sony's being my exception (not counting a 67 or 49 back 6-8 feet for room). I've never used the Silver but the solid state Sony and my tube clone both have a specific mid to upper mids thing I like that's different to Neumann. Mostly used on clean to slightly broken up sounds, doesn't always work but I love it when it does. It's in rotation/combination with 409's, M88's, N22, and M160's. Would love to try the Stagers. |
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Post by sparkey on May 2, 2023 14:01:45 GMT -6
thanks, I guess mojave says that the MA37 is more true to the sony. it has a ribbon type tone,
it can take alot of SPL, Stagers sound so good though. May not need it but want different flavors.
MA37 has a cut switch on it that would make it great for guitar cabs, Sometimes I wonder
about Using an IR like the suhr reactive load or fryette load IR instead of micing a cab,
but i am old fashioned,
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Post by paulcheeba on May 2, 2023 19:58:40 GMT -6
I have a pair of Silver Manley’s and really like them. I they work well for vocals, acoustic instruments and drums. They are somewhere between a ribbon and a classic condenser.
For electric guitar I’ve been getting great results with a Chandler TG and an RE20. Little need for eq after. The Sm69 tube is also great on cabs with a ribbon.
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Post by paulcheeba on May 2, 2023 20:25:12 GMT -6
I have experience with this. If you like the Sony you would like this. I am not a big fan of the Sony C37 but hey it was Jimi Hendrix's favorite vocal mic. What better mic for someone that hates their voice than a muffled condenser. |
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Post by bossanova on May 2, 2023 21:12:23 GMT -6
Didn’t Jimi/Eddie Kramer use an M160 ribbon on Jimi’s vocals?
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Post by sparkey on May 3, 2023 7:54:43 GMT -6
I have a pair of Silver Manley’s and really like them. I they work well for vocals, acoustic instruments and drums. They are somewhere between a ribbon and a classic condenser. For electric guitar I’ve been getting great results with a Chandler TG and an RE20. Little need for eq after. The Sm69 tube is also great on cabs with a ribbon. What settings do you use on the tg mic for guitar cabs? Do you use the RE20 with the tg mic? |
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Post by recordingengineer on May 3, 2023 10:22:15 GMT -6
My Barbaric 37s with Sony C38B capsules are wonderful on guitar amps (clean and distorted), Rhodes, and vocals. I’m really curious the difference between them and an actual Sony C38B. Unfortunately, I still haven’t heard any of the other newer 37-type options. I mostly use an MBHO MBD 219 SC along with a LDC (the Milab VIP-60 lately) on guitar amps nowadays.
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Post by chessparov on May 3, 2023 10:47:04 GMT -6
Didn’t Jimi/Eddie Kramer use an M160 ribbon on Jimi’s vocals? IIRC both M160 and C37. And SM56. I loved Jimi's vocal Character BTW. Also SRV's too... Chris |
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Post by nudwig on May 3, 2023 15:59:54 GMT -6
My Barbaric 37s with Sony C38B capsules are wonderful on guitar amps (clean and distorted), Rhodes, and vocals. I’m really curious the difference between them and an actual Sony C38B. Unfortunately, I still haven’t heard any of the other newer 37-type options. I mostly use an MBHO MBD 219 SC along with a LDC (the Milab VIP-60 lately) on guitar amps nowadays. I'm assuming your 37 is similar/same to the one Chris built for me. The difference between the c37 clone and c38 feels very similar to the differences between my 87 with and without the IO 67 mod. Same family sound but more forgiving and engaging with the tube circuits (at least in my usage). |
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Post by paulcheeba on May 3, 2023 23:17:20 GMT -6
Didn’t Jimi/Eddie Kramer use an M160 ribbon on Jimi’s vocals? IIRC both M160 and C37. And SM56. I loved Jimi's vocal Character BTW. Also SRV's too... Chris I like Jimi’s voice and love his songwriting. |
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Post by paulcheeba on May 3, 2023 23:20:59 GMT -6
I have a pair of Silver Manley’s and really like them. I they work well for vocals, acoustic instruments and drums. They are somewhere between a ribbon and a classic condenser. For electric guitar I’ve been getting great results with a Chandler TG and an RE20. Little need for eq after. The Sm69 tube is also great on cabs with a ribbon. What settings do you use on the tg mic for guitar cabs? Do you use the RE20 with the tg mic? Yes I use them together. I’m not sure what setting the TG is on but it sounds great as the top end of the RE20 is a Ribbon like the AEA R92 or Coles 4038. |
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Post by chessparov on May 4, 2023 1:12:15 GMT -6
Bob O. in so many words, explained the RE20's older fraternal brother...
The 666 was designed to sound close to the 77 Ribbon.
Without the pesky risk of Ribbon replacement. Especially for TV/Radio applications.
Been tales of 77 Ribbons ending up in Dumpsters. Behind TV/Radio Stations in Days of Yore. From folks like Scott Dorsey.
Chris
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Post by spindrift on May 5, 2023 9:56:55 GMT -6
I just made a record this week with a C-37A on powerful AND intimate female vocals. It’s a classic for a reason.
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Post by Tbone81 on May 5, 2023 10:24:48 GMT -6
I just made a record this week with a C-37A on powerful AND intimate female vocals. It’s a classic for a reason. Id love to hear that if you play a clip? I’ve been wondering a lot about the c37 but have never heard one in person. From people’s descriptions it seems like it’s a mic that would really fit my aesthetic. I’ve thought about talking to Barbaric about making a clone. |
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Post by spindrift on May 5, 2023 13:28:30 GMT -6
I just made a record this week with a C-37A on powerful AND intimate female vocals. It’s a classic for a reason. Id love to hear that if you play a clip? I’ve been wondering a lot about the c37 but have never heard one in person. From people’s descriptions it seems like it’s a mic that would really fit my aesthetic. I’ve thought about talking to Barbaric about making a clone. I'll post the album links here once it's released. |
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