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Post by gouge on Apr 27, 2023 21:12:48 GMT -6
Yep. My ac15 love runs deep. How cool is this amp. So easy 6to dial in exceptional tones in seconds and always seems to record well.
Guitar, bass anything goes.
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Post by winetree on Apr 27, 2023 21:43:28 GMT -6
Studio has a Purple VOX AC 15 with PM Guitar Tubes and a BAD CAT speaker.
There have been a few studio musicians who have never played through one, fell in love with it and wanted to get one.
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Post by gouge on Apr 28, 2023 5:41:16 GMT -6
Not familiar with those tubes.
I put a set of Watford valves in mine and a better reverb tank. Kept the stock greenback because it sounds great., The valves made a very nice difference. Have tested my ac15 against other stock ac15’s with friends and everyone involved has said they preferred mine for a sweater more 3d tone so I guess the valves have been the difference.
I’ve used an ac30 for recording a fair bit and I prefer the ac15 by a large amount. I’m convinced I can get any tone I need in a very short time. In a session recently we were going from doom rock to more classic rock tones, then cleaner chimes with a combination of boost pedals. There is a sweet spot with the gain staging . that’s easy to find and I haven’t found on marshalls or fenders.
at the last session we plugged in a bass vi through a rat clone and immediately found the best fuzzy bass sound I managed to record so far. Granted by this stage I had the output on 10 and started freaking the speaker would blow.
I’m amazed at how many used ac15’s there are locally. Always with the same comment. “Tried Vox but it’s not my thing”…what are people doing? Probably getting too hung up on the top boost channel.
Am thinking of getting another and putting a 50w bass speaker in it and one more to run as an extension cab with an alternative speaker like a blue.
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Post by Ned Ward on Apr 28, 2023 17:30:05 GMT -6
And once you try an EL84 amp (Vox, or in my case, Dr. Z MAZ 18 Jr) on one side, and a 6V6 or 6L6 on the other, it's a great tonal match. Not an argument for running stereo, but for having different amp flavors for the tracks.
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Post by gouge on Apr 28, 2023 20:53:07 GMT -6
I am very much onboard with tracking 2 amps.
Last session I had the guitarist with his pedals into his ac30 then split the signal with a submarine pickup on his guitar and ran that into my ac15 with a matamp flavoured boost pedal. '
His amp had u47fet centre and sm57 mid way from cone and off axis. I pushed the bass eq a bit on his amp. The submarine went to my amp doing a cleaner overdrive with more pick attack and chime with a Serrano 87. Hands down best distorted guitar tone I’ve captured with loads of options.
would love to try a blue speaker extension cab or another ac15 so I can dual amp my own setup.
A fenderesque amp prob would provide additional options too. Been looking at champs of late.
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Post by gwlee7 on Apr 29, 2023 7:53:02 GMT -6
I have the vibro Champ reissue and its a lot of fun.
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Post by srb on Apr 29, 2023 11:21:58 GMT -6
Favorites here are a '72 Princeton Reverb with a Celestion Gold in it (such a sweet sounding amp); a '65 Deluxe Reverb, and a drip edge ('68?) Vibro Champ. So, I'm mostly a Fender guy. Some small, old Gibsons get work, too.
I have an AC15HW that gets some run, too. I should use it more for rocking stuff.
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Post by Ned Ward on Apr 29, 2023 11:47:44 GMT -6
My "mutt" Princeton Reverb is a 1980 pull boost (gasp) that's been gone over with a Deluxe output transformer, Kendrick Black Frame 10" speaker, and recently freshened up by Fazio Electric (she's the best in LA). Amp was $450 20 years ago, and my '74 Princeton was $250 on eBay... The Princeton has a Weber C10Q that sounds nice with the lower volume, and I had a male-female speaker cable made to run the Princeton speaker as an extension cab, but also will plug it into my Tremolux cab loaded with Weber AlNiCo 10s.
Greg - your RI Vibrochamp already has a 1/4" speaker out - definitely fun to try on larger cabs, and you don't have to swap out the old RCA for a 1/4" jack like on the originals (total worthwhile swap FWIW).
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Post by gwlee7 on Apr 29, 2023 13:52:12 GMT -6
Greg - your RI Vibrochamp already has a 1/4" speaker out - definitely fun to try on larger cabs, and you don't have to swap out the old RCA for a 1/4" jack like on the originals (total worthwhile swap FWIW). I have talked to Weber about an all rounder loaded in a cabinet for me. I forget which one they recommended right off. I love their attenuators.
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Post by gouge on Apr 29, 2023 18:00:18 GMT -6
My "mutt" Princeton Reverb is a 1980 pull boost (gasp) that's been gone over with a Deluxe output transformer, Kendrick Black Frame 10" speaker, and recently freshened up by Fazio Electric (she's the best in LA). Amp was $450 20 years ago, and my '74 Princeton was $250 on eBay... The Princeton has a Weber C10Q that sounds nice with the lower volume, and I had a male-female speaker cable made to run the Princeton speaker as an extension cab, but also will plug it into my Tremolux cab loaded with Weber AlNiCo 10s. Greg - your RI Vibrochamp already has a 1/4" speaker out - definitely fun to try on larger cabs, and you don't have to swap out the old RCA for a 1/4" jack like on the originals (total worthwhile swap FWIW). Is it possible to run a combo as an extension cab without disconnecting the amp? Didn’t think that was ok. Would love to do that if it is possible
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Post by collywobble on Apr 30, 2023 8:43:57 GMT -6
I guess there must be AC15s and AC15s? There was a time when all the bands I recorded seem to have reissue AC15s of some sort, and I always thought they sounded crap. Muddy and lifeless and mushy and nothing like a good AC30. But maybe there is another model I don't know about that sounds halfway decent...
I love my old Vibrochamp with a weird Jensen speaker.
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Post by notneeson on Apr 30, 2023 15:38:30 GMT -6
I guess there must be AC15s and AC15s? There was a time when all the bands I recorded seem to have reissue AC15s of some sort, and I always thought they sounded crap. Muddy and lifeless and mushy and nothing like a good AC30. But maybe there is another model I don't know about that sounds halfway decent... I love my old Vibrochamp with a weird Jensen speaker. I've only messed with a recentish one that my studio partner was given, he has an extensive amp collection and the AC15 is the one he's, um, comfortable letting my nine year old play through. Sounds OK in the room though, better than I expected. I have recorded a 90s Korg era AC30 and those are great amps, you just need to know how to dial them in. Also played through a vintage one in the early days of Studio G and, well, I was a kid and didn't know how to dial it in, not great to ADAT, shall we say.
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Post by Ward on Apr 30, 2023 15:41:34 GMT -6
The hardest thing about reading threads like this is I have almost all the amps mentioned and use them every week on people's records. Some get used almost daily.
The most overlooked part of any conversation about amps is the speakers and cabinets.
We all have personal favorites but there is not denying the tonal footprint of alnico speakers with guitar amps. Favorite here is the Tone Tubby 12" Chicago blues . . . but the Celestion Alnico Blue Ruby and Gold 12" speakers are also strong contenders. A combination of one blue and one gold is magical.
I'll still take a VOX AC30 2x12 cab with a pair of Chicago blues over anything for any music style. And the Dr. Z Maz Jr/18 is the most versatile single channel tube amp I own or have ever used. Mine is sloe to 20 years old but the new ones are out of this world amazing!
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Post by thehightenor on May 1, 2023 2:47:39 GMT -6
Easy - the two I use Princeton 68 Custom or Tone King Imperial MK2 (I use the head and cab) SM57 > BAE 1073D AEA R92 > AEA RPQ500 or Millennia STT-1 or Coil CA-70 (track dependant) I blend the signal to taste with a Radial 2:1 passive mixer and record mono tracks on each pass. To my ears, it's a really stunning tone - I turn the volume up to record and get some air moving in my guitar cab room and I'm sat in my control room - ala Tim Pierce.
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Post by gouge on May 1, 2023 7:12:21 GMT -6
So what’s everyone using to split the signal into multiple amps when trying to get fatter tones
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Post by srb on May 1, 2023 8:40:25 GMT -6
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Post by Ned Ward on May 1, 2023 9:00:51 GMT -6
My "mutt" Princeton Reverb is a 1980 pull boost (gasp) that's been gone over with a Deluxe output transformer, Kendrick Black Frame 10" speaker, and recently freshened up by Fazio Electric (she's the best in LA). Amp was $450 20 years ago, and my '74 Princeton was $250 on eBay... The Princeton has a Weber C10Q that sounds nice with the lower volume, and I had a male-female speaker cable made to run the Princeton speaker as an extension cab, but also will plug it into my Tremolux cab loaded with Weber AlNiCo 10s. Greg - your RI Vibrochamp already has a 1/4" speaker out - definitely fun to try on larger cabs, and you don't have to swap out the old RCA for a 1/4" jack like on the originals (total worthwhile swap FWIW). Is it possible to run a combo as an extension cab without disconnecting the amp? Didn’t think that was ok. Would love to do that if it is possible You can run an extension cab as the main speaker instead of the internal 1x10, or on amps with the ext speaker jack you can plug in both. I also run my Princetons into my Captor X for silent recording.
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Post by Ned Ward on May 1, 2023 9:02:18 GMT -6
The hardest thing about reading threads like this is I have almost all the amps mentioned and use them every week on people's records. Some get used almost daily. The most overlooked part of any conversation about amps is the speakers and cabinets. We all have personal favorites but there is not denying the tonal footprint of alnico speakers with guitar amps. Favorite here is the Tone Tubby 12" Chicago blues . . . but the Celestion Alnico Blue Ruby and Gold 12" speakers are also strong contenders. A combination of one blue and one gold is magical. I'll still take a VOX AC30 2x12 cab with a pair of Chicago blues over anything for any music style. And the Dr. Z Maz Jr/18 is the most versatile single channel tube amp I own or have ever used. Mine is sloe to 20 years old but the new ones are out of this world amazing! I just sent my MAZ Jr/18 back to Dr. Z for the MK II upgrade - for the price it's definitely worth it. Mine's a 2010.
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Post by Ned Ward on May 1, 2023 9:05:14 GMT -6
So what’s everyone using to split the signal into multiple amps when trying to get fatter tones Two different ways: Radial BigShot ABY - Fender for verses, Dr. Z for chorus, both for solos or to route to different amps. Has an iso transformer and a ground lift. Temple Audio SUM MOD 2 - this is a module for their pedalboards that takes a stereo input and if you plug two amps in, stereo. Plug in only one amp and it automatically sums to mono without collapsing. I use E906's on both amps.
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Post by Ward on May 1, 2023 17:08:41 GMT -6
SNIP I just sent my MAZ Jr/18 back to Dr. Z for the MK II upgrade - for the price it's definitely worth it. Mine's a 2010. I really just do that!
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Post by eyebytwomuchgeer on May 2, 2023 10:14:22 GMT -6
My Ampeg V2 is pretty hard to beat for almost anything, especially when you can actually crank it into real distortion. I have one of the less desirable "Distortion" models, and like my tech said, "You will plug into the distortion circuit once, and then never use it again" And he was correct. But the regular channel is amazing. The reverb is amazing. It is also very clean and full when not really driving the power tubes, so you can get almost any dirt pedal to really shine. You can also crank a bass through it. For the studio, it is a very underrated bass amp, and also just an underrated amp in general.
That being said, you need a good amp tech that deals with Ampeg stuff to really get it up to snuff.
My V2, cranked to 10 with a P-bass through a custom 2x12 bass cabinet literally dislodged a glass window panel from my practice room. The building had to replace the entire window.
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Post by gouge on May 2, 2023 15:36:16 GMT -6
Wooh. Dont come a knockin when windows start poppin.
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Post by smashlord on May 14, 2023 18:28:38 GMT -6
I find a Deluxe Reverb/Tremoverb head or a blackface Bassman can cover a lot of ground. For all manners of rock, a Marshall 2204/2204 can do just about anything with the right combo of pedals.
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Post by niklas1073 on May 20, 2023 9:21:56 GMT -6
I have a small collection of vintage amps and access to a -63 ac30. Though they are all great I actually end up mostly using my late 60’s Hiwatt dr103 thru purple back fanes. It works in so many contexts and serves as a great platform for pedals. So that would probably be my desert island amp.
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Post by Ned Ward on May 20, 2023 11:18:41 GMT -6
I have a small collection of vintage amps and access to a -63 ac30. Though they are all great I actually end up mostly using my late 60’s Hiwatt dr103 thru purple back fanes. It works in so many contexts and serves as a great platform for pedals. So that would probably be my desert island amp. Now THAT's an amp, but only if you have the studio or farm to use it... are you using an attenuator, or just a really well acoustic treated studio?
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