Sound Radix Auto-Align® 2 Released

Exactly. I only used V1, but that’s the concept. Pick the source and align tracks to that. Should be great for your purpose.

right yeah, but it automatically groups things for you. So I strapped it on everything when I tested it, and it knew that the bass amp/di were tracked separate from the drums so it groups them into two unique groups, aligns the drums by themselves and aligns the bass amp to the di by its self. 

the key is the auto grouping it does, it analyzes the data and knows what was tracked at the same time and groups those.

I went very heavy handed when first testing it and just followed the manual instructions, there might be a case for moving the key track around manually or removing some stuff from being aligned. need to experiment more with it next week.

but im tracking a band this weekend and going to try and get my phase right at the source like some lame luddite 

Can only say to those who work in LUNA that Auto Align 2 cannot save its settings after you have saved and then opened again!

Haven't tried the new one yet. But for me yes sometimes it isn't better. 

But for me with drums sometimes it feels like it's worse. But then I notice the imaging and focus of the sound and it's way better. 

But it's not a magic wand I'm sure. Sometimes it's gonna work great. Other times it's not. 




Plus isn't most your stuff can drums? 

I just downloaded this for a 14 day trail and have been experimenting with it using simple set-up on a baby grand. One SDC stereo pair about 11” apart over the hammers and one LDC ~ 24” away from the pair and toward the back close to an edge.

I recorded multiple passes of similar performances, and also slow scales across the entire keyboard to make it easy to A/B individual notes. Here are my initial thoughts.

The’re no mistaking that this thing is making a difference. Re-aligned tracks sound dramatically different. At first I was a bit confused. Higher notes do ring brighter and cleaner, but notes in the mid-range (G2-C4) sounded dull and less dimensional to me. Multiple takes of different material and re-alignments confirmed this, but over time my ears started to get use to it, and I began to realize that out of phase mid-range notes just have more “buzz” to them (for lack of a better word), and I may have been confusing phasing with brighter. It’s taken some time for me but I’m coming to the realization that the mid-range is cleaner with alignment on, and though I haven’t played with it much I’ve had some success putting the ‘bright’ back in with eq.

I do have a number of crits.

The owners manual may be pretty, but it’s mostly worthless. E.g. There’s a wonderful diagram on page 12 enumerating the buttons/features on the gui ..and then.. there’s NO outlined description of what they do! Now granted, there’s not much to the thing, but I did have to futz with it to figure out how to use it.

They don’t want you to tweak the offsets - or anything for that matter.. There’s no middle ground. No adjusting. You either accept their sorcery or you don’t.

When I record multiple takes on a different set of tracks, even if I manually group them separately, the program wants to off-set them against each other. My solution is to analyze and print each group one at a time. Then reset, rinse and repeat.  I may be missing something here, but the manual is no help. The thing has a mind of its own.

My plan for the moment is to put it through its paces on a few projects over the remainder of the trial period.  I really want to buy this, but $200 is way more than I want to spend on a non-VI plugin.

anyone compared this to melda MAutoAlign? that's way cheaper ... if it works just as good. anyone knows?

I’m convinced that Pi on my kick and bass improves things.

i remember not noticing a huge difference last time I demoed it.  just shot them an email to see if they'll let me demo again.

I didn't say it DID, I just said I'm convinced it does lol

thanks. gonna check the demo.

EDIT: checked the demo and it did not work properly. did not recognice or ignore some tracks in a drum multitrack recording, whereas melda mauto align worked right away with one click and delivered punchier clearer drums. 
wanted to try the radix auto-aligne 2 demo but the homepage did not let me register ... they seem to do all the same, analyzing and calcolating sample distances ... so don't know if radix is woth the hefty price vs. melda which is around 49 euros.

Do you align to kick or snare and do you include overheads?