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Post by viciousbliss on Apr 6, 2023 16:57:10 GMT -6
Just tried this recently and it's been a pleasant surprise. All lossless with a lot of 24-bit stuff that's in 44k. There's definitely a difference in the 24-bit versions on some stuff, like Drown Again/Emerge. Tidal only has the 16/44 version and it sounds basically the same as when I use Saracon to convert the 24-bit one I have to 16/44 with the loss of some highs. On other stuff I don't notice it sounding all that different. Maybe it matters when the album was made using a DAW with plugins that generate things that get lost when going to 16/44 but not if it was a direct transfer from analog to a 16/44 device. The biggest thing about Tidal is that you're often given a choice with a catalogue or a song. A lot of artists have the older DR 11+ versions along with some DR6-8 remaster available. A lot have one or the other. I'm not sure why we consumers aren't given choices. Bob Ludwig gave Axl three choices with Chi Dem's mastering and he chose the high DR version. When DVD first came out, often we'd get a choice between Pan&Scan or the original widescreen. Most of the time the consumer was only given the widescreen version though and no one complained. These DR 3-6 versions seem like the audio equivalent of Pan&Scan. Occasionally someone makes an album in that range that's very listenable like Fear Disease, but it's very much the exception. Tidal has a ton of compilations, so when I wanted a high DR version of Dream On, I was able to locate one.
Another thing that surprised me was all the hard to find AOR and Hard Rock on there. The 24-bit version of Badly Dreaming by Annica on there was a lot better than the original Lighthouse cd and the MTM Classix remaster. The original mix of the first Alien album is on there too with a high DR. Most any piece of obscure Metal I was looking for was there. Eurodance from the 90's. Most movie scores and soundtracks, though a lot of the soundtracks are missing several songs. Must be a rights issue. With the scores you won't find things released by LaLa Land. Seems like they had the Intrada Rambo cds though. No MFSL, DCC, or Audio Fidelity releases on there.
The program is very good at keeping track of your stuff, letting you know what's new, and recommending stuff. Tidal could almost allow me to replace my whole cd collection. I recommend everyone take a look at it and see what you find.
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Post by 79sg on Apr 6, 2023 17:01:42 GMT -6
Have you looked at Qobuz?
I don’t use streaming services as I prefer to own the music I listen to. Also better for the artist…….
If I did, Qobuz would be my choice.
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Post by drumsound on Apr 6, 2023 17:19:19 GMT -6
Have you looked at Quboz? I don’t use streaming services as I prefer to own the music I listen to. Also better for the artist……. If I did, Quboz would be my choice. What's your reasoning? |
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Post by 79sg on Apr 6, 2023 18:28:23 GMT -6
I like that you can also buy music on Qobuz in hi res format.
Don't believe you can do so on Tidal (I could be mistaken but believe this is the case).
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Post by gwlee7 on Apr 6, 2023 18:33:47 GMT -6
If I am streaming any of these lossless providers, I “lose” as soon a I use Bluetooth headphones right? I would need a good wired pair if using my phone or IPad.
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Post by drumsound on Apr 6, 2023 20:52:17 GMT -6
I like that you can also buy music on Qobuz in hi res format. Don't believe you can do so on Tidal (I could be mistaken but believe this is the case). That is a super cool feature. Very artist forward. |
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Post by 79sg on Apr 7, 2023 4:01:46 GMT -6
If I am streaming any of these lossless providers, I “lose” as soon a I use Bluetooth headphones right? I would need a good wired pair if using my phone or IPad. If I were to go the streaming route I'd add a network player to my hi fi system such as a Cambridge Audio CXN (V2), etc. for the full experience. |
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Post by brenta on Apr 7, 2023 8:09:48 GMT -6
Is Tidal still all in on MQA? I was using Tidal for a while, but I switched to Amazon when they came out with lossless high res, which I prefer over MQA. The sound quality is great on Amazon but pretty much everything else about the platform sucks.
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Post by 79sg on Apr 7, 2023 9:43:35 GMT -6
Is Tidal still all in on MQA? I was using Tidal for a while, but I switched to Amazon when they came out with lossless high res, which I prefer over MQA. The sound quality is great on Amazon but pretty much everything else about the platform sucks. Yes it is still MQA, another reason I'd go Qobuz if / when I subscribe to a streaming service. |
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Post by copperx on Apr 7, 2023 10:05:28 GMT -6
I prefer to own the music I listen to. Guys, should we tell him? |
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Post by 79sg on Apr 7, 2023 12:45:21 GMT -6
No need  I must have been having a weak moment. Or is this better, "I prefer to buy the music I listen to". |
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Post by viciousbliss on Apr 7, 2023 20:07:47 GMT -6
Tidal is pretty much all 16/44 and 24/44 flac. Occasionally something will be m4a or mp4 for some reason though. Qobuz is something I have to look into. It's been a while since I looked at Amazon Music.
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Post by brenta on Apr 7, 2023 21:46:43 GMT -6
Tidal is pretty much all 16/44 and 24/44 flac. Occasionally something will be m4a or mp4 for some reason though. Qobuz is something I have to look into. It's been a while since I looked at Amazon Music. That must be a change from when I used it. I haven’t used Tidal in probably about 3 or 4 years, but at that time they had a decent amount of MQA, but everything that wasn’t MQA was 16/44.1. There were no lossless high res songs whatsoever, and that’s why I switched to Amazon. |
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Post by viciousbliss on Apr 8, 2023 18:39:06 GMT -6
Tidal is pretty much all 16/44 and 24/44 flac. Occasionally something will be m4a or mp4 for some reason though. Qobuz is something I have to look into. It's been a while since I looked at Amazon Music. That must be a change from when I used it. I haven’t used Tidal in probably about 3 or 4 years, but at that time they had a decent amount of MQA, but everything that wasn’t MQA was 16/44.1. There were no lossless high res songs whatsoever, and that’s why I switched to Amazon. Tidal is almost all lossless with a lot of hi-res, but no 96k or 192k that I'm aware of. You can download to your phone too. |
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Post by brenta on Apr 9, 2023 11:07:02 GMT -6
That must be a change from when I used it. I haven’t used Tidal in probably about 3 or 4 years, but at that time they had a decent amount of MQA, but everything that wasn’t MQA was 16/44.1. There were no lossless high res songs whatsoever, and that’s why I switched to Amazon. Tidal is almost all lossless with a lot of hi-res, but no 96k or 192k that I'm aware of. You can download to your phone too. So Tidal has started switching their catalog out from MQA to lossless high res? Like I said it’s been some time since I used it, but at the time they were all in on MQA and there was no lossless high res content. It’s odd that they have no 96k content. Apple has launched their lossless high res service now. I’m not sure how big their catalog is. Spotify has been promising theirs for years now but still hasn’t launched it. |
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