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Post by nobtwiddler on Apr 3, 2023 8:26:10 GMT -6
So as I get closer to finalizing a property purchase in TN, I'm getting a bit apprehensive, due to the crazy weather I've seen these last few weeks. With more on the way tomorrow!
The absolute devastation the recent tornados brought to the area, is quite disconcerting.
Amongst all the other shit I have to worry about, I never, ever, worried about Tornados, floods, firestorms, or hurricanes, here in the North East.
Besides the obvious building purchase personal safety, I've also got quite a bit of gear $$$, and seeing the total destruction these things cause, has me thinking if moving down there is a good idea? Can you even purchase Tornado insurance, to cover everything, house, and all the gear?
For all of you living in TN. or any of the surrounding areas, what's your take on it. How do you deal with the ever present danger.
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Post by svart on Apr 3, 2023 9:11:09 GMT -6
So as I get closer to finalizing a property purchase in TN, I'm getting a bit apprehensive, due to the crazy weather I've seen these last few weeks. With more on the way tomorrow! The absolute devastation the recent tornados brought to the area, is quite disconcerting. Amongst all the other shit I have to worry about, I never, ever, worried about Tornados, floods, firestorms, or hurricanes, here in the North East. Besides the obvious building purchase personal safety, I've also got quite a bit of gear $$$, and seeing the total destruction these things cause, has me thinking if moving down there is a good idea? Can you even purchase Tornado insurance, to cover everything, house, and all the gear? For all of you living in TN. or any of the surrounding areas, what's your take on it. How do you deal with the ever present danger. Never really think about it. Seems that no matter where you live, you have some kind of threat. Living in the south we don't worry about dying in snowstorms or unsafe rusting cars like you North-East guys do.. Don't have to think about major hurricanes or wildfire season or earthquakes or any number of things either.. Tornados are hyped quite a lot by media that's always using them to make a buck off of people's suffering. The likelihood of getting hit is pretty low. You're more likely to get flooded than anything else. I'm not aware of "tornado insurance" but I guess folks just add extra insurance for their housing if they have a lot of gear to replace.
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Post by drbill on Apr 3, 2023 9:34:24 GMT -6
I moved OUT of earthquake and fire-tornado country (so cal). Lived thru a bunch of those. Happy to be gone. I don't like tornados or places that are prone to them, and I don't like fires burning down entire neighborhoods. Too many stories from my parents who grew up in those tornado areas. Worst thing we have here is maybe some drought conditions here or there. Not everyplace has the same natural disaster potential. I like it out west, the east is not for me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2023 9:52:56 GMT -6
Tough call. The climate around the world is changing and changing faster that even the most dire predictions said they would. The extra heat energy moves through the atmosphere and oceans in all sorts of surprising ways. I lived in the Northeast for a long time, and other than the occasional sub-zero cold snap or ice storm it was a tolerable and predictable climate. From what I'm hearing from friends and relatives, it's usually drier and warmer now. Out here in Utah, we're in the middle of the deepest drought in a thousand years. But at the moment, we're in the zillionth large snowstorm of the season. Top of the canyons near my home are already at record snowfall--headed toward 900 inches for the year. When that melts we'll probably have the worst floods in 40 years. Then we'll be right back in the middle of the drought with record temperatures.
Who knows what will happen in the South? The tornados get all the press and they're monstrous (I've been in a little one and didn't like it a bit), but the rain and floods are the more widespread issues. So at the least, be sure you have flood insurance (it's not part of a regular homeowner policy) and a good hidey-hole just in case. It's a lot different than it used to be. I grew up in N.C. and the weather there is unrecognizable compared to the 50's and 60's.
I don't think there's anywhere in the world where you'd have a guaranteed escape from climate change. Best you can do (besides not making it worse) is to think ahead and prepare the best way you can.
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Post by chessparov on Apr 3, 2023 10:08:39 GMT -6
FWIW the safest place is in Texas to avoid a tornado. It's right in Dallas.
In the Cowboys Stadium. Never a touchdown. Chris
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Post by nobtwiddler on Apr 3, 2023 10:41:43 GMT -6
Thanks for the replies, and I totally agree with the notion that nowhere is safe anymore!
For me, it's a very big move from upstate NY, to TN., as well as a lot of $ to purchase the new property.
And all I've been seeing on the news these last few days is the devastation this last round of Tornados brought to Alabama, Arkansas, and Tennessee. Got me wondering if this is the correct thing to do?
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Post by chessparov on Apr 3, 2023 10:52:51 GMT -6
Wishing you the best. Wherever you land. Chris
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Post by seawell on Apr 3, 2023 12:00:20 GMT -6
Maybe consider purchasing a property with a basement? My best friend died in a tornado when I was a kid so I take it way more seriously than most, but still, it's one of those things you can only do so much about. Life is wild.
For personal safety there are tornado rooms you can purchase for around 5-6k that would withstand pretty much anything. A friend of mine that lives in Oklahoma turned me on to those. For insurance, that's a good question that I hope someone has the answer to.
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Post by chessparov on Apr 3, 2023 13:14:13 GMT -6
Sorry to hear about your friend. Great suggestion on that room idea. Chris
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Post by geoff738 on Apr 3, 2023 14:10:02 GMT -6
I dunno. I’m in Toronto and while tornadoes are rare up here, they are not unheard of. I’m guessing the US NE is similar?
Don’t know about the insurance angle. Just hope you find your space, wherever it may be. And that if I m ever in the neighborhood I can swing by for a nice Belgian style ale.
Best of luck,
Geoff
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Post by svart on Apr 4, 2023 7:05:01 GMT -6
Despite what a lot of folks parrot, tornados are not increasing in number or strength. In fact, they're reducing in both. Same for hurricanes.
It's just that people have been building larger, more expensive homes/apartments/businesses in concentrated areas, so when a tornado or hurricane do hit, they tend to do a lot more damage and cost significantly more. Also of interest is the use of modern satellite/radar imagery for detection of tornado velocity signatures in storms which count as a "tornado" even though a funnel might never reach the ground. In fact, only about 20% of tornado warned storms actually produce a damaging tornado. This is all why everyone uses "damage costs" as some kind of metric for storm ferocity, but it really means absolutely nothing in terms of actual meteorology because a minor storm could damage a rich neighborhood and cost way more than an F5 tornado going through corn fields and hitting zero homes.
Like I said, very much hyped by the media. They love a good disaster-porn headline.
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Post by gwlee7 on Apr 4, 2023 17:54:18 GMT -6
The problem with tornadoes in my opinion isn’t that they are more prevalent. It’s people who are more prevalent and they keep getting in the way of the tornadoes.
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Post by ericn on Apr 12, 2023 21:57:10 GMT -6
Thanks for the replies, and I totally agree with the notion that nowhere is safe anymore! For me, it's a very big move from upstate NY, to TN., as well as a lot of $ to purchase the new property. And all I've been seeing on the news these last few days is the devastation this last round of Tornados brought to Alabama, Arkansas, and Tennessee. Got me wondering if this is the correct thing to do? Paul, trust me there is always something that can f&@k up your day. I have survived them all ( except landslide) make sure your insurance is good and in tornado country a basement and a weather alert App are must haves. Look Ironically other than a nut case with 5 gallons of gas and a match COVID was what almost took me out. Also having lived all but 8 years in Tornado country, well Tornados are destructive as hell, but Hurricane IKe made the path of Barnaveld or Topeka look like a postage stamp.
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Post by gevermil on Apr 13, 2023 7:19:58 GMT -6
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Post by Ward on Apr 14, 2023 13:16:36 GMT -6
Thanks for the replies, and I totally agree with the notion that nowhere is safe anymore! For me, it's a very big move from upstate NY, to TN., as well as a lot of $ to purchase the new property. And all I've been seeing on the news these last few days is the devastation this last round of Tornados brought to Alabama, Arkansas, and Tennessee. Got me wondering if this is the correct thing to do? Paul, trust me there is always something that can f&@k up your day. I have survived them all ( except landslide) make sure your insurance is good and in tornado country a basement and a weather alert App are must haves. Look Ironically other than a nut case with 5 gallons of gas and a match COVID was what almost took me out. Also having lived all but 8 years in Tornado country, well Tornados are destructive as hell, but Hurricane IKe made the path of Barnaveld or Topeka look like a postage stamp. Between the North east and the south east, I've lived through quite a few hurricanes... They way they blow in and then keep winding up is far more violent than a tornado, but for some reason being in the path of a tornado is far more terrifying. Earthquakes are a whole other thing. Worst I've experienced is a 6.4 and hope to never again.
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Post by drbill on Apr 14, 2023 15:08:34 GMT -6
Yeah, earthquakes suck. Lived thru many of them. I relocated to a place that has
1% chance of tornados 2% chance of flooding 0% chance (historically) of earthquakes 0% chance of hurricanes 4% chance of direct nuclear hit or fallout 50% chance of wildfires (at least in the "area") 50% chance of wind damage 35% chance of water shortage
Aaaannnndddddd....
Evidently a pretty dam good chance of getting hit by lightning. In my case - 100%.
Always something.... Good luck Paul.
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Post by sean on Apr 14, 2023 20:21:04 GMT -6
I live in East Nashville, but managed to not take any damage from the flood or the recent tornado...or the heavy winds this year. The streets up or down from me, not so lucky. It does seem risk of high winds, tornadoes, and heavy rain fall is more common than it was when I moved here 15 years ago. I'd also so that with the rapid growth of the city there hasn't been much done to help drainage.
But there was a tornado that destroyed my grade school in Cincinnati...so there's a chance for a weather event anywhere.
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Post by rowmat on Apr 16, 2023 20:29:01 GMT -6
Sounds like someone should record an album and call it “Damn the Tornadoes”
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Post by nobtwiddler on Apr 18, 2023 15:42:58 GMT -6
Haha... You guys are funny... But I'm still pretty worried about this crap. I realize the news organizations tend to hype these kind of events, but the destruction I saw a few weeks ago, wasn't made for TV... It was real, with one town totally leveled. Nasty shit.
Anyhow the place I'm talking about, (actually we're under contract at the moment) has NO basement, just a 3 foot crawl space~! And since It's built on property that is mostly rock, I'm not sure I can even build a shelter underground.
Other then that, it's perfect for my live, / work studio situation.
The fact that it has been totally renovated from foundation, to roof, in the last year sold me. Actual Inspection of the property will happen tomorrow, just to confirm everything is at it should be, not only cosmetically sound.
I literally have to do nothing but set up my gear, and make the room sound as good as I can, and get back to work! Fingers crossed.
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Post by nobtwiddler on Apr 18, 2023 15:48:48 GMT -6
“Damn the Tornadoes”
Good one Matt!
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Post by ericn on Apr 19, 2023 13:22:49 GMT -6
Haha... You guys are funny... But I'm still pretty worried about this crap. I realize the news organizations tend to hype these kind of events, but the destruction I saw a few weeks ago, wasn't made for TV... It was real, with one town totally leveled. Nasty shit. Anyhow the place I'm talking about, (actually we're under contract at the moment) has NO basement, just a 3 foot crawl space~! And since It's built on property that is mostly rock, I'm not sure I can even build a shelter underground. Other then that, it's perfect for my live, / work studio situation. The fact that it has been totally renovated from foundation, to roof, in the last year sold me. Actual Inspection of the property will happen tomorrow, just to confirm everything is at it should be, not only cosmetically sound. I literally have to do nothing but set up my gear, and make the room sound as good as I can, and get back to work! Fingers crossed. Just don’t buy a Mobile home ! Those things are storm magnets !
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