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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 28, 2023 10:14:45 GMT -6
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Post by nick8801 on Mar 28, 2023 11:41:03 GMT -6
Meh....everything affects everything, but I wouldn't sweat it.
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Post by copperx on Mar 28, 2023 12:10:43 GMT -6
I've got a really similar setup but with NS-10s, and in my experience, yes, it did make a difference when I lowered the monitor, particularly with the high end. It screwed up imaging for sure, but my monitor seems wider than yours.
To solve that, I got one of those gas-powered arms so I can lower the monitor at will. When I'm editing and not doing mixing, I raise it because it's much more comfortable, then lower it when mixing.
They're cheap and you can experiment to see if it makes a difference in your case. That is, of course, assuming the monitor has VESA mounts.
Worst case scenario, you get a more ergonomic setup. And you can move the monitor away to use your desk by pushing it away.
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Post by sirthought on Mar 28, 2023 12:35:00 GMT -6
Yep. The Apple display can mount to anything VESA, so an arm that attaches to your desktop and you can adjust fully will do the trick.
I don't know if you're really getting a real problem, but using the arm would allow you to adjust and find out.
Certainly this isn't stoping you from making good mixes.
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Post by Tbone81 on Mar 28, 2023 14:01:06 GMT -6
I just went though this in my studio last week. I had a 32” tv as a monitor, positioned almost exactly how yours is. It was in front of the speakers (speakers in stands behind the desk just like yours).
I realized it was really screwing with my sweet spot. I replaced the tv with a 28” monitor and mounted it in a floor stand that sits behind my desk. That alllowed me to push the monitor back 3-4”.
It was a dramatic improvement in my studio. I still need to futz with the speaker placement. With some furniture adjustment I can get the monitor in the same plane as the speakers and should get another level of improvement.
Ymmv, but I think it’s good to look into and a pretty easy fix
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Post by christophert on Mar 29, 2023 6:09:31 GMT -6
Johnkenn, if that was my setup, I would chop that center shelf out, and move the monitor as far back as possible.
First though, why not test by putting the speakers on the L & R shelf with some Iso pucks / or cheap rubber supports, and see how that sounds. Maybe the photo is misleading, but the speakers look to me like they will always be problematic with those racks and shelf in front of them - let alone the monitor, which would spoil the phantom center image.
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Post by thehightenor on Mar 29, 2023 8:07:24 GMT -6
In my humble opinion- no, not that you’ll likely be able to detect with your ears. I did an proper blind ABX test. My wife removed or left the pc monitor on my desk, she guided me into my studio room blindfolded and I had to say if the screen was there or not. I thought it would be an easy pick, to my surprise I was way wrong. I ended up just guessing, I couldn’t reliably pick it !! 24” monitor for reference - ATC 25a’s. Another audio myth busted  |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 29, 2023 10:33:12 GMT -6
Meh....everything affects everything, but I wouldn't sweat it. I really want a new monitor. Lol |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 29, 2023 10:37:32 GMT -6
Johnkenn, if that was my setup, I would chop that center shelf out, and move the monitor as far back as possible. First though, why not test by putting the speakers on the L & R shelf with some Iso pucks / or cheap rubber supports, and see how that sounds. Maybe the photo is misleading, but the speakers look to me like they will always be problematic with those racks and shelf in front of them - let alone the monitor, which would spoil the phantom center image. I’ve thought about that. I’m not exactly handy…but I guess a circular saw could do the trick. Maybe that’s my project today. I don’t think it would screw with structural integrity, but that would be a shitty thing to find out if it did. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 29, 2023 10:38:37 GMT -6
Also wonder if the Trinnov makes it all negligible anyway…but always pursuing perfection.
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Post by gwlee7 on Mar 29, 2023 16:34:32 GMT -6
Meh....everything affects everything, but I wouldn't sweat it. I really want a new monitor. Lol Then get one. |
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Post by notneeson on Mar 29, 2023 16:58:58 GMT -6
Also wonder if the Trinnov makes it all negligible anyway…but always pursuing perfection. Obviously I have never been in your room, but between the Trinnov and all the treatment you added, I suspect the only non-negligible upgrade paths would be either monitors or a new fully purpose-built control room. And you already have good monitors (based on reputation). |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 29, 2023 17:37:26 GMT -6
I really want a new monitor. Lol Then get one. Well, the one or two I want are $1200-$1500…not sure I want one that bad. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Mar 29, 2023 17:55:28 GMT -6
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Post by gwlee7 on Mar 29, 2023 18:18:18 GMT -6
Well, the one or two I want are $1200-$1500…not sure I want one that bad. That is a fair point 😂 |
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Post by notneeson on Mar 29, 2023 19:52:21 GMT -6
Man, I am mixing at my friend's place this week and the monitor (computer) situation suhhhhhks. It's too far from the sweet spot and too small, I'm squinting even with my glasses on. I know it's weird but I am now so used to working on a laptop that I actually miss it when I'm using a different rig.
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Post by trakworxmastering on Mar 30, 2023 9:25:42 GMT -6
Also wonder if the Trinnov makes it all negligible anyway…but always pursuing perfection. If you change anything in your room then won't you have to redo the Trinnov setup? it'd be interesting if you could see whether it does anything different after the change. Does it give you that info? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 30, 2023 9:32:58 GMT -6
Also wonder if the Trinnov makes it all negligible anyway…but always pursuing perfection. If you change anything in your room then won't you have to redo the Trinnov setup? it'd be interesting if you could see whether it does anything different after the change. Does it give you that info? Yeah, but it takes like 5 mins. I would imagine it would mostly be a tiny phase issue or whatever…I would guess I wouldn’t hear any difference. Even with all the pro acoustic paneling I got, nothing really changed below 100 Hz. Guess that would take major thickness at the back of the room. I did see a big change in a dip around 300-400. |
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