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Post by tkaitkai on Mar 26, 2023 12:37:22 GMT -6
I’d rather use what comes in my interface than a warm product.
Their 312 clone is actually quite good. I haven't used the Tonebeast or 412, but I would assume they're on par.
I'd probably shy away from their 1073, though. And I've been listening to more clips of the MPX — it sounds decent for the most part, but so far I haven't really heard anything that would warrant a purchase from me.
I think their mics and outboard are more interesting. I've always wanted to try their 47/87/67, and I liked the 1176 when I had it.
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Post by ragan on Mar 26, 2023 13:01:36 GMT -6
I’d rather use what comes in my interface than a warm product. You are like Mr. Plugin. It is unsurprising that you're not interested in a company that exclusively makes hardware. |
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Post by robschnapf on Mar 26, 2023 18:02:02 GMT -6
I like hardware and that’s what I use.
Not a snob but I didn’t think the warm 312 sounded like a real 312 side by side.
If you heard em youd say that’s the 312 and that’s the warm 312 which isn’t as good.
Tonebeast was a variety on average.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 26, 2023 18:04:47 GMT -6
Guess, I’m just a guy who likes being mean ?  |
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Post by earlevel on Mar 27, 2023 17:26:11 GMT -6
I see they deleted my comment to the video regarding "...delivering an impressive 300 volts of raw power..."  |
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Post by yewtreemagic on Mar 28, 2023 15:25:51 GMT -6
Yeah Rob, but what about my Warm Coffee? I mean are these other Pre's as well grounded? BTW I just heard about the accident during that Warm video... The main guy badly burned his tongue, during filming. He drank his coffee before it was cool enough. Chris Disagreements about coffee have been known ro ruin marriages - it gives people grounds for divorce  |
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Post by chessparov on Mar 30, 2023 2:25:21 GMT -6
it can be a strain.
Chris
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Post by paulcheeba on Apr 1, 2023 3:39:55 GMT -6
Sounds awful to me. They’re very hot and cold considering they are called Warm. I think “Tepid” would be more suited.
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Post by phantom on Apr 1, 2023 10:20:01 GMT -6
Sounds awful to me. They’re very hot and cold considering they are called Warm. I think “Tepid” would be more suited. Burn! |
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Post by sirthought on Apr 1, 2023 12:17:14 GMT -6
Sounds awful to me. They’re very hot and cold considering they are called Warm. I think “Tepid” would be more suited.  |
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Post by ragan on Apr 1, 2023 15:22:44 GMT -6
Wait they’re Hot and Cold so they should be called Tepid…which means warm…but they should not be called Warm
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 1, 2023 15:31:42 GMT -6
I don’t think he’s using Logic, maybe Reaper ? |
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Post by shakermaker on Apr 1, 2023 16:54:13 GMT -6
I got my ampex 351 needs met for the moment. BUT kinda cool warm choose to do this, I showed it to a friend with a small home studio looking for a cheap flavour pre, could be the ticket. I'll compare it vs mine EC3s/ampex 351 if he grabs one. The vids are "okay" ... but hey, price is great.  |
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Post by paulcheeba on Apr 1, 2023 19:29:08 GMT -6
Wait they’re Hot and Cold so they should be called Tepid…which means warm…but they should not be called Warm 🤔 It means luke warm and it was loosely based on the Spinal Tap “ Fire and Ice” joke. |
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Post by paulcheeba on Apr 1, 2023 19:31:42 GMT -6
I don’t think he’s using Logic, maybe Reaper ? Humour doesn’t need Logic I’m an Avid follower of fun. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 2, 2023 1:35:40 GMT -6
I don’t think he’s using Logic, maybe Reaper ? Humour doesn’t need Logic I’m an Avid follower of fun. Nah, you’re just tooling around ! |
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Post by lowlou on Apr 2, 2023 4:46:58 GMT -6
I got my ampex 351 needs met for the moment. BUT kinda cool warm choose to do this, I showed it to a friend with a small home studio looking for a cheap flavour pre, could be the ticket. I'll compare it vs mine EC3s/ampex 351 if he grabs one. The vids are "okay" ... but hey, price is great. View AttachmentPlease, how would you compare the originals with the Electric & company ? Thanks. |
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Post by Ward on Apr 2, 2023 10:02:26 GMT -6
Sounds awful to me. They’re very hot and cold considering they are called Warm. I think “Tepid” would be more suited. Genius comment |
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Post by niklas1073 on Apr 2, 2023 16:26:19 GMT -6
Listened to some clips with it. I feel there’s so many mistakes with it. At clean decent settings it sounds ok I quess for what it is. But beyond that it sounded just really bad from the shoot outs I came across. The more gain switches just made it worse. And whats going on with the tape saturation switch??? It’s an analog gear with no tape… hence no tape saturation available. To me it came across as an ampex clone designed without insight in the ampex.
I understand there is a hype around sound boxes and saturation. But the whole misconception of vintage sound that surrounds that trend. Since none of the units (i’d dare say) was ever originally designed to be fuzz boxes, but rather clean headroom hi-fi audio units (though some of them tend to sound nice even with audible distortion beyond the subtle harmonic saturation we enjoy), why not just make really nice clone of the ampex 3XX since there are really not many out there? Even with price difference, I would rather save up to the locomotive audio 86B 2.
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Post by chessparov on Apr 2, 2023 17:05:39 GMT -6
I guess expecting the Warm to sound the same/similar to a real 312, at that price point... And with all the switches is loco-motive. Chris |
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Post by niklas1073 on Apr 2, 2023 17:51:17 GMT -6
I guess expecting the Warm to sound the same/similar to a real 312, at that price point... And with all the switches is loco-motive. Chris 🤣 yeah I suppose you’re right. I guess it was all the gimmick switches that didn’t do it for me. |
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Post by chessparov on Apr 3, 2023 0:32:42 GMT -6
Stating the obvious to those who know me... Objectively, I don't have a high level of judgment regarding Pre's.* But enjoy having a bit of fun. If/when I buy a higher end Pre, the perspective of the kind of strong AE's here, along with direct experimentation... Would outweigh my preconceptions-hopefully. Chris *I just sense Pre-tentiousness with Warm sometimes, due to their glossy marketing. |
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Post by mattbroiler on Apr 3, 2023 19:31:02 GMT -6
yeah agree that the stock TB12 is pretty blase compared to the ad hype - it's okay out of the box but not exactly incredible
the "tone shaping" switching options were pretty hard to discern even with the gain cranked to make it as obvious as possible
I sent mine into Revive Audio for their upgrade/mod service it really sounds great now
that was $250 bucks on top of the original cost but totally worth it imo
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 4, 2023 3:09:57 GMT -6
Stating the obvious to those who know me... Objectively, I don't have a high level of judgment regarding Pre's.* But enjoy having a bit of fun. If/when I buy a higher end Pre, the perspective of the kind of strong AE's here, along with direct experimentation... Would outweigh my preconceptions-hopefully. Chris *I just sense Pre-tentiousness with Warm sometimes, due to their glossy marketing. It really comes down to cost vs value, higher end pres cost more, so you need to decide where to spend ? I’ve ended up with a two channel daking (trident) clone: doubt I’d ever sell it. I’d still like to demo a Hardy/Grace/Millenial for cleaner detail to compliment the daking. |
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Post by niklas1073 on Apr 4, 2023 7:40:53 GMT -6
I was thinking, who do you guys feel is the demographic for this pre? I kind of feel it's marketed as an fx box... can it be a good go to pre for someone below all those decorations? Just curious.
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