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Post by vvvooojjj on Mar 17, 2023 4:04:10 GMT -6
Been thinking of getting a second set of monitors for checking mids and kick/bass translation for smaller systems.
Fostex 6301NX is rather expensive here in Europe. Pair costs 888€ which is around 950 US dollars. Amphion one15 might be a good option as I've worked with Amphion speakers before with good results but they are even more expensive. Not sure of Avantone Mixcubes as I've heard rather mixed opinions of those.
Do you guys/gals have any suggestions?
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Post by theshea on Mar 17, 2023 4:47:56 GMT -6
i have one avantone mixcube monitor and i should have bought it earlier: massive help for volume balance, mids and checking sound for smaller systems. recommended!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2023 6:03:42 GMT -6
Horrortones (Auratone to the uninitiated) are back. They've long been a standard for just such an application.
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Post by ericn on Mar 17, 2023 6:06:58 GMT -6
Horrortones (Auratone to the uninitiated) are back. They've long been a standard for just such an application. Beat me to it, yes they suck but that’s the idea! Although I think these days I would buy a cheap soundbar and sub just to have the most common denominator around. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 17, 2023 6:09:41 GMT -6
The amphion 12?
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Post by Tbone81 on Mar 17, 2023 8:47:08 GMT -6
NHT SuperOnes are great for that purpose and very inexpensive
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2023 8:48:14 GMT -6
Auratone 5C Fostex 6301 is more full range and you’ll be in danger of replacing your main nearfields with it  |
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Post by svart on Mar 17, 2023 9:08:35 GMT -6
This is exactly what the NS10 excels at.
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Post by thehightenor on Mar 17, 2023 9:37:12 GMT -6
I have a pair of late 1970's Auratone 5C's and a Haflter P1000 to power them - they are useful.
I usually only use one.
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Post by jaba on Mar 17, 2023 10:24:53 GMT -6
The Amphions are great but if you already have a fairly full-range set, they might be overkill.
I have the One18s but am always flipping over to either a pair of NS10s or a single Auratone 5C as they both are great at showing you what's what in the mids (and in a way that's quite different than the One18s). I do love the NS10s for this but the single Auratone is quite special at pointing out what's fighting what in the mids, even if the conflict comes from oppositely hard-panned instruments.
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Post by donr on Mar 17, 2023 11:17:56 GMT -6
Slate's VSX system has Steven's studio's particularly awful sounding mono Auratone which will quickly tell you your mix sucks unless it's really well balanced.
Still a big fan of the VSX, and all the varied references to check.
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Post by copperx on Mar 17, 2023 14:22:31 GMT -6
This is exactly what the NS10 excels at. That and showing the effects of compression on transients. They reveal so much. |
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Post by nudwig on Mar 17, 2023 15:36:51 GMT -6
Slate's VSX system has Steven's studio's particularly awful sounding mono Auratone which will quickly tell you your mix sucks unless it's really well balanced. Still a big fan of the VSX, and all the varied references to check. VSX has been such a pleasant surprise. Awesome having that Auratone, the Mike Dean NS10's, and my favorite, the Zuma ATC 110's that with my mastering engineer buddy we tuned to sound like his 110 equipped mastering room (I don't want to thread hijack so if anyone wants the setting feel free to PM). I still have my Avantones up next to the D&D 8c's but they rarely get turned on now that I use VSX as my 2nd reference. |
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Post by collywobble on Mar 17, 2023 16:33:34 GMT -6
I used to use an old pair of Sony SMS-1P that I picked up very cheaply. They did the job and they have XLR, jack and phono inputs so easy to hook up. Haven't really used them since I got my NS10s though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2023 16:41:22 GMT -6
I used to use an Auratone at home and NS10's in some studio's but since I picked up my core 59's they've become redundant. I can hear phase, transient, balancing, effects, low, mids and high's etc. perfectly. The problem with them is what goes in comes out unfiltered for better or worse which means dependant on the song they can go from mind blowing all the way to Michael's aptly named "horrotones". Incredible speakers for sure but be prepared to dislike some of your references which you thought were greatly engineered and come to the realisation (in my case at least) that you've still got a way's to go.
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Post by stratboy on Mar 17, 2023 19:45:52 GMT -6
I have a pair of late 1970's Auratone 5C's and a Haflter P1000 to power them - they are useful. I usually only use one. That’s amazing. I have the exact same setup. Bought my 5Cs from Pacific Radio back in the day. These days, I run the Hafler bridged and use one 5C dead center. The other one is sitting in the closet in case the first one ever blows up. But they are built like tanks. |
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Post by jeremygillespie on Mar 17, 2023 19:59:07 GMT -6
Mids, transients, and vocal levels are so incredibly easily determined on a set of NS-10’s. Honestly invaluable to me next to my fancy monitors.
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Post by drumsound on Mar 17, 2023 22:44:21 GMT -6
This is exactly what the NS10 excels at. That and showing the effects of compression on transients. They reveal so much. And ear fatigue |
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Post by thehightenor on Mar 18, 2023 6:13:58 GMT -6
I have a pair of late 1970's Auratone 5C's and a Haflter P1000 to power them - they are useful. I usually only use one. That’s amazing. I have the exact same setup. Bought my 5Cs from Pacific Radio back in the day. These days, I run the Hafler bridged and use one 5C dead center. The other one is sitting in the closet in case the first one ever blows up. But they are built like tanks. I think I just have one side of my Hafler turned down, bridged would give more power than my single 5C would need - perhaps that not good for the Hafler? Though I'm pretty sure when I read the manual it implied the amp is perfectly happy not underload on one or both sides. My 5C is off to my left as I have my PC screen in front of me so the 5c would need to be up too high. These days, now I'm on ATC 25a's I do find I need it less, but back when I was mixing on K&H 0300's it was essential as the mids on those monitors was so soft and forgiving. |
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Post by vvvooojjj on Mar 18, 2023 8:08:17 GMT -6
Thank you all for the replies.
Had completely forgotten the new active version of Auratones.
Even though I mentioned One15s I'd rather get active monitors as my room is rather small.
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Post by drumsound on Mar 18, 2023 22:18:46 GMT -6
Thank you all for the replies. Had completely forgotten the new active version of Auratones. Even though I mentioned One15s I'd rather get active monitors as my room is rather small. Avantone makes an active version of their horrortones. |
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Post by theshea on Mar 19, 2023 2:41:39 GMT -6
Thank you all for the replies. Had completely forgotten the new active version of Auratones. Even though I mentioned One15s I'd rather get active monitors as my room is rather small. Avantone makes an active version of their horrortones. yeah and i have them and they don‘t sound that horrorlike. they arr super useful. one is enough in mono. |
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Post by christophert on Mar 19, 2023 15:12:02 GMT -6
I found the Avantones too horrible to use - they have sat here unused for years, as everytime I attempted to use them I hated the sound of them.
I used Auratones decades ago on a few mix projects, and my memory of them was they were good to check mixes on.
Last year I purchased the new Auratones and the matching amp.
Problem solved - they are much more useable and not horrible sounding at all.
Currently looking for another set of small monitors for mixing, that have more low end, to use as a companion to the Auratones.
Probably will go with the iLoud micro monitors.
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