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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 3, 2023 4:20:21 GMT -6
Roughly, first half is background and an add
Standard main chassis with upgradeable modules (cpu/ram ) or additional gpu cards?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2023 8:26:03 GMT -6
That guy sure is excitable, isn't he? I got tired just listening to him. If this is real (and I have my doubts), it doesn't sound particularly thrilling. To keep the thing up-to-date, you'd be buying new 'brains' now and then, as well as replacing the case when you need a new port type or something of that nature. Perhaps there's the occasional graphics weenie that will do that. But generally audio people will take their time and sit with a system for years before going through the pain and expense of an upgrade. The jump from M1 to M2 is nice, but in the real world it will hardly be noticeable. It generally takes a few years of progress to make it worth putting in the time and money to bump a system. If I still had my 2019 Mac Pro, I'd be inclined to give it another few years.
Apple introduced the Mac Studio as sort of a stopgap. But it turned out to be a truly excellent machine for audio, with many years of life ahead. I bought the M1 Ultra and I think it's going to take many years before I outgrow this machine. Maybe I'll pull out the credit card around M6 or M7 time, but now I'm being well served by this quiet and cool little monster.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 3, 2023 8:32:40 GMT -6
Agreed, hard not to think these types of yt vids are just click bait to bookend his sponsor adds. Still an interesting idea, but if you had more i/o and memory needs as you say, why wouldn’t you just spec out a studio ?
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Post by dok on Mar 3, 2023 10:48:37 GMT -6
Ever since 2016 people have been screaming BUT IT'S NOT UPGRADEABLE with every new Mac. Now this comes out and if the video is accurate it looks maybe like it's completely upgradeable and the first comment here is a big yawn about it. LOL.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 3, 2023 12:22:39 GMT -6
Well how credible are the yt guys ?
An upgrade able m series mac pro, would be a big deal !
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Post by christopher on Mar 3, 2023 12:46:16 GMT -6
Ever since 2016 people have been screaming BUT IT'S NOT UPGRADEABLE with every new Mac. Now this comes out and if the video is accurate it looks maybe like it's completely upgradeable and the first comment here is a big yawn about it. LOL. that’s not the kind of upgradable I think most people complain about. Most people I assume, would like to grab some ram and hard drives off Amazon and plug them in. This looks like the whole Mac Pro inside the brain, kinda funny and a slap in the face if true
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Post by plinker on Mar 3, 2023 12:51:23 GMT -6
kcat, I love your announcement threads on new stuffs. I gotta say, that this particular thread title keeps me doing a double take every time I sees it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2023 13:24:34 GMT -6
That guy sure is excitable, isn't he? I got tired just listening to him. If this is real (and I have my doubts), it doesn't sound particularly thrilling. To keep the thing up-to-date, you'd be buying new 'brains' now and then, as well as replacing the case when you need a new port type or something of that nature. Perhaps there's the occasional graphics weenie that will do that. But generally audio people will take their time and sit with a system for years before going through the pain and expense of an upgrade. The jump from M1 to M2 is nice, but in the real world it will hardly be noticeable. It generally takes a few years of progress to make it worth putting in the time and money to bump a system. If I still had my 2019 Mac Pro, I'd be inclined to give it another few years. Apple introduced the Mac Studio as sort of a stopgap. But it turned out to be a truly excellent machine for audio, with many years of life ahead. I bought the M1 Ultra and I think it's going to take many years before I outgrow this machine. Maybe I'll pull out the credit card around M6 or M7 time, but now I'm being well served by this quiet and cool little monster. Audio people have run into severe ram, storage, noise, and electrical issues with modern macs. With the original m1 mini People were wearing out the soldered in ssds of the m1 laptops and minis. It’s not even an ssd anymore because the controller is on the chip of the arm and it’s just a bunch of flash ram. Mac studio units with low noise were a good stop gap but now the M2 mini is out and it’s cheaper and faster single core so will be a little better for some inserts. With ARM, Apple has gone back to where they were in the 90s because they refused to build thermally stable computers in the 2010s. They have not solved their single core woes and the big hot AMD and Intel monstrosities are crushing them for cpu heavy applications right now. Intel might be losing money but already the Intel 13900k, which requires a full Atc case and 420 aio cooler, can run the latest amp sims and vsti synths at 32 and 16 sample buffers. They are exceeding dedicated onboard dsp latencies with much heavier applications. When they get even faster, many fx sends that were not previously possible in daws will be. I can max out an m1 and a 12900k pretty easily on the highest buffer in reaper with standard 16 to 24 track recordings. Unfortunate most modern pop has triple or quadruple those track counts. The biggest selling stuff is stuck in a very 2010s or so workflow with many plugins that were bad in 2010 or year 2000 being used because of familiarity and the need to conserve computer resources on overproduced recordings. And unlike a lot of early digital indie hip hop, electronic, and metal, they’re not holding themselves back from bad digital processes that cause massive artifacts. The time isn’t there to print everything through limited hardware anymore.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 3, 2023 19:19:38 GMT -6
kcat, I love your announcement threads on new stuffs. I gotta say, that this particular thread title keeps me doing a double take every time I sees it. Its hard to keep Johnkenn amused: thank you:) !
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Post by Ward on Mar 6, 2023 4:28:18 GMT -6
kcat, I love your announcement threads on new stuffs. I gotta say, that this particular thread title keeps me doing a double take every time I sees it. Its hard to keep Johnkenn amused: thank you:) ! Don’t forget us little people. We need amusement as well. Than again, we have chessparov
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