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Post by drbill on Jul 26, 2023 15:44:27 GMT -6
If I’m playing bass or acoustic on something, I need to know exactly where the beats are so I can either be right up on it if there is programming, or to be able to place my notes on, ahead, or behind the beat ever so slightly in order to make things feel right. The only way I’ve found to make that happen is with a super sharp general click. The shakes and tambs are just too spread out for me to know exactly where to put the notes. Anybody else feel that?Yeah. Definitely. Shakers tend to blend into the music and mesh into the groove instead of setting a definitive groove marker that you can pull to. Sometimes that's OK, but when you really need precision, there's still nothing like the percussive pop of a good click that's in phase. Lets you know RIGHT where you are supposed to be. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 27, 2023 13:03:23 GMT -6
Funny, clicks always bugged the shit out of me. I prefer a simple kick and snare pattern.
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Post by drumsound on Jul 27, 2023 19:57:37 GMT -6
EZ Drummer shaker, it's EZ to track with  You haven't seen me at the helm! It don't come EZ.  That gives me an idea...track shakers through the Leslie. |
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Post by drumsound on Jul 27, 2023 19:59:40 GMT -6
If I’m playing bass or acoustic on something, I need to know exactly where the beats are so I can either be right up on it if there is programming, or to be able to place my notes on, ahead, or behind the beat ever so slightly in order to make things feel right. The only way I’ve found to make that happen is with a super sharp general click. The shakes and tambs are just too spread out for me to know exactly where to put the notes. Anybody else feel that?Yeah. Definitely. Shakers tend to blend into the music and mesh into the groove instead of setting a definitive groove marker that you can pull to. Sometimes that's OK, but when you really need precision, there's still nothing like the percussive pop of a good click that's in phase. Lets you know RIGHT where you are supposed to be. I made a template for the record we're starting tomorrow with both SSS and the standard PR click track. The band hopefully did come up with tempos in rehearsal like they planned. |
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Post by the other mark williams on Jul 30, 2023 21:36:22 GMT -6
Yeah. Definitely. Shakers tend to blend into the music and mesh into the groove instead of setting a definitive groove marker that you can pull to. Sometimes that's OK, but when you really need precision, there's still nothing like the percussive pop of a good click that's in phase. Lets you know RIGHT where you are supposed to be. I made a template for the record we're starting tomorrow with both SSS and the standard PR click track. The band hopefully did come up with tempos in rehearsal like they planned.If they did, they will probably be wrong. |
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Post by notneeson on Jul 30, 2023 22:34:59 GMT -6
I would definitely prefer a hi hat in many cases over the stock PT click sound. I’ve actually recorded metronomes in the past too when that was what the performer was comfortable with.
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Post by drumsound on Jul 30, 2023 23:24:11 GMT -6
I made a template for the record we're starting tomorrow with both SSS and the standard PR click track. The band hopefully did come up with tempos in rehearsal like they planned.If they did, they will probably be wrong. Not only did they have tempos ready, but they only adjusted one. They spent last week working with their Dr Beat, and gladly welcomed SSS instead. |
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Post by the other mark williams on Jul 31, 2023 12:10:13 GMT -6
If they did, they will probably be wrong. Not only did they have tempos ready, but they only adjusted one. They spent last week working with their Dr Beat, and gladly welcomed SSS instead. Awesome! Man, it seems like I've experienced so many times where a band comes in with what they sincerely believe to be their tempo for a given song, and when we use it, the band starts trying to play to it and they say, "are you sure the beat is the same tempo? It seems slower than ours was at home. Also, is the beat slowing down coming out of the bridge??" |
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Post by gwlee7 on Jul 31, 2023 12:34:13 GMT -6
Not only did they have tempos ready, but they only adjusted one. They spent last week working with their Dr Beat, and gladly welcomed SSS instead. Awesome! Man, it seems like I've experienced so many times where a band comes in with what they sincerely believe to be their tempo for a given song, and when we use it, the band starts trying to play to it and they say, "are you sure the beat is the same tempo? It seems slower than ours was at home. Also, is the beat slowing down coming out of the bridge??" What they are really saying is that they can’t play in time. |
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Post by drumsound on Jul 31, 2023 13:18:04 GMT -6
Not only did they have tempos ready, but they only adjusted one. They spent last week working with their Dr Beat, and gladly welcomed SSS instead. Awesome! Man, it seems like I've experienced so many times where a band comes in with what they sincerely believe to be their tempo for a given song, and when we use it, the band starts trying to play to it and they say, "are you sure the beat is the same tempo? It seems slower than ours was at home. Also, is the beat slowing down coming out of the bridge??" Oh, I know that situation well... |
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Post by Ward on Aug 1, 2023 7:58:57 GMT -6
drum loop as a click track maybe? Especially cool if you can just taste it as far as you need it and not have to worry about headphone bleed.
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Post by Ward on Aug 1, 2023 8:00:00 GMT -6
P.S. I should have read all the replied before posting . . . apparently, many of us think similarly.
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