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Post by bentley on Jan 22, 2023 17:52:33 GMT -6
Oooooo... looks interesting, especially at $899. Can't believe nobody has mentioned it already.
Authentic LANG PEQ-2 reissue
Customer Heritage Audio transformers for balanced input and output signal
Same exact inductors and tone capacitors as in the original PEQ-2
Stepped controls for easy recall, matching, and selection of 26 different frequency options
High Peak Boost with variable bandwidth and magical 20kHz option
High Shelf Cut with extended frequency choices
Low Shelf Boost and Cut each with different frequency selections
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Post by tasteliketape on Jan 22, 2023 18:04:39 GMT -6
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Post by ab101 on Jan 22, 2023 18:14:24 GMT -6
Good for Heritage! I wish them much success! Does anyone have one of these? I am especially curious how it is on the "pultec trick" on the bass.
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Post by seawell on Jan 22, 2023 19:02:44 GMT -6
Wow, that price is a nice surprise! Heritage is on a roll lately.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2023 19:04:27 GMT -6
An inside shot would be useful. The original is quite heavy in weight.
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Post by Quint on Jan 22, 2023 21:12:48 GMT -6
Hmmm... A pair of these, I will have to consider.
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Post by tasteliketape on Jan 22, 2023 22:26:56 GMT -6
Doesn’t look very heavy the way there handling it in the unboxing ??!?
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Post by lowlou on Jan 23, 2023 4:46:17 GMT -6
Yeah and nothing popping out from the rear panel, too. On the og, loads of big transformers pop out.
I'd like to know how this translates in term of sound. If it's faithful sonically, well then I'll buy six lol.
I'm in love w/ my motorcity Eqs, I want another pair.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 23, 2023 6:12:43 GMT -6
The way he removes it and manipulates it so easily, gives me the impression, it weighs nothing, hmm, what’s inside ?
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Post by thehightenor on Jan 23, 2023 7:26:25 GMT -6
The way he removes it and manipulates it so easily, gives me the impression, it ways nothing, hmm, what’s inside ? Well not a power supply for starters , looks like it runs off a wall wart! Never a good sign ime if you want heaps of headroom.
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Post by EmRR on Jan 23, 2023 8:03:22 GMT -6
Can’t tell what power is coming in, but likely an internal switcher/step-up. So long as it’s well filtered, should be fine.
Almost no modern transformers with cases you’d hang off the back. If you price the reissue transformers that are cased like that, 2 cost as much as this whole thing. Ongoing concerns like Hammond 800/850 series, you’re around $300 for the pair. Plus - don’t need as much transformer shielding inside the box, and with a switcher.
Always skeptical about claims of “exact original inductors and tone caps”. I mean, maybe you got close….
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Post by Quint on Jan 23, 2023 9:33:24 GMT -6
Yeah and nothing popping out from the rear panel, too. On the og, loads of big transformers pop out. I'd like to know how this translates in term of sound. If it's faithful sonically, well then I'll buy six lol. I'm in love w/ my motorcity Eqs, I want another pair. So you don't feel like the Motor City EQs are too limited in frequency choices? I've been curious about that eq myself, but wondered if I'd end up feeling like I wish it had more frequency options.
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Post by trakworxmastering on Jan 23, 2023 9:55:57 GMT -6
Most of the big cubes hanging off the back of the original PEQ-2 are EQ modules, not transformers.
I'm curious to see what's inside the reissue, and how it sounds compared to the real thing, which is pretty dang special.
It looks like the reissue is not yet available.
One of my original pair has a cold solder joint inside a sealed, resin-filled EQ module, so I have to keep it warm or it cuts out. A replacement option would be nice to have available, but for this price I'm skeptical that it'll stack up. But ya never know!
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Post by EmRR on Jan 23, 2023 10:52:30 GMT -6
Oh yeah! There's almost nothing inside the box on an original, just the control pots/switches. Everything is potted and hanging off the back. Some of the Langevin/Cinema/Hycor/UTC EQ's are like that too. Frequently all the inductors are in a single case.
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Post by ab101 on Jan 23, 2023 13:07:54 GMT -6
Yeah and nothing popping out from the rear panel, too. On the og, loads of big transformers pop out. I'd like to know how this translates in term of sound. If it's faithful sonically, well then I'll buy six lol. I'm in love w/ my motorcity Eqs, I want another pair. So you don't feel like the Motor City EQs are too limited in frequency choices? I've been curious about that eq myself, but wondered if I'd end up feeling like I wish it had more frequency options. I have the UAD version of the Motor City eq. I do find the frequency choices limiting. And frankly, for some reason I do not like it all that much. Maybe this Lang remake is better.
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Post by lowlou on Jan 23, 2023 13:29:56 GMT -6
Most of the big cubes hanging off the back of the original PEQ-2 are EQ modules, not transformers. I'm curious to see what's inside the reissue, and how it sounds compared to the real thing, which is pretty dang special. It looks like the reissue is not yet available. One of my original pair has a cold solder joint inside a sealed, resin-filled EQ module, so I have to keep it warm or it cuts out. A replacement option would be nice to have available, but for this price I'm skeptical that it'll stack up. But ya never know! The bands cover the full spectrum. It's a broad band eq with attitude. I like to balance sounds in relation to each other with a limited number of band. A dip for a given instrument, and a boost for another one. You create little spaces for each sound to breath in, and in the process things sound more exciting. Same process with busses ! ((The output stage is also part of the sauce, as explained in the demo videos with Brauer ))
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Post by drumsound on Jan 23, 2023 13:46:44 GMT -6
Does ANyone know the price of these?
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Post by ab101 on Jan 23, 2023 13:54:19 GMT -6
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Post by ericn on Jan 23, 2023 15:50:23 GMT -6
I’ll counter, it appears because of stepped pots they maybe impossible to line up!
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Post by ab101 on Jan 23, 2023 16:30:56 GMT -6
I’ll counter, it appears because of stepped pots they maybe impossible to line up! Good point! But they may be repeatable in their non-alignment!
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Post by ericn on Jan 23, 2023 16:41:26 GMT -6
I’ll counter, it appears because of stepped pots they maybe impossible to line up! Good point! But they may be repeatable in their non-alignment! I am surprised that on all this budget friendly “ mastering” gear that the modders don’t push adding switched attenuattors and other controls. I realize in many cases it would be far more complicated and expensive than upgrading some caps, op amps etc, but if someone wants true repeatability and matching it’s the only way to go. At the very least offer an upgrade of the cheap stepped pots to a non stepped quality pot!
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Post by EmRR on Jan 23, 2023 16:51:49 GMT -6
Good point! But they may be repeatable in their non-alignment! I am surprised that on all this budget friendly “ mastering” gear that the modders don’t push adding switched attenuattors and other controls. I realize in many cases it would be far more complicated and expensive than upgrading some caps, op amps etc, but if someone wants true repeatability and matching it’s the only way to go. At the very least offer an upgrade of the cheap stepped pots to a non stepped quality pot! Probably because in many cases it becomes as expensive as the item in question.
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Post by ericn on Jan 23, 2023 16:54:06 GMT -6
I am surprised that on all this budget friendly “ mastering” gear that the modders don’t push adding switched attenuattors and other controls. I realize in many cases it would be far more complicated and expensive than upgrading some caps, op amps etc, but if someone wants true repeatability and matching it’s the only way to go. At the very least offer an upgrade of the cheap stepped pots to a non stepped quality pot! Probably because in many cases it becomes as expensive as the item in question. Yeah, that or they know their clients won’t wait for Grayhill to ship!
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Post by jmoose on Jan 23, 2023 18:38:30 GMT -6
Good for Heritage! I wish them much success! Does anyone have one of these? I am especially curious how it is on the "pultec trick" on the bass. While the Lang & Pultec have similar setups and overlap in practical use they're two entirely different sounding circuits. Similar concept but not the same animal. I've always loved the PEQ2 but have never a chance to try 'em across the 2 mix. Mostly because every room that's ever had one had just that... one! Vocals, bass... guitar overdubs... not sure I ever slapped one across any drums. Kinda wished & hoped someone would eventually build these again so at $900 I guess I'll have to get at least one eventually. Not too stoked on the line lump but what 'ya gonna do? I'd pay more for an internal supply but oh well. I get why its in a normal chassis and doesn't have modules hanging off the back like the OG. That's actually better. Especially from a travel perspective if your gonna toss one in a rack and drag it from studio to studio. Big heat sinks, transfomers etc hanging off the back of gear only tear things up. And or/break off and tear things up.
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Post by ericn on Jan 23, 2023 18:45:22 GMT -6
Good for Heritage! I wish them much success! Does anyone have one of these? I am especially curious how it is on the "pultec trick" on the bass. While the Lang & Pultec have similar setups and overlap in practical use they're two entirely different sounding circuits. Similar concept but not the same animal. I've always loved the PEQ2 but have never a chance to try 'em across the 2 mix. Mostly because every room that's ever had one had just that... one! Vocals, bass... guitar overdubs... not sure I ever slapped one across any drums. Kinda wished & hoped someone would eventually build these again so at $900 I guess I'll have to get at least one eventually. Not too stoked on the line lump but what 'ya gonna do? I'd pay more for an internal supply but oh well. I get why its in a normal chassis and doesn't have modules hanging off the back like the OG. That's actually better. Especially from a travel perspective if your gonna toss one in a rack and drag it from studio to studio. Big heat sinks, transfomers etc hanging off the back of gear only tear things up. And or/break off and tear things up. Yeah but everything you said meant a nice custom case sale in my prior life😎
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