Just spent an hour and a half mixing in Cubase 12

That's the kind of thing that makes me want to break stuff. I commiserate with you. I take deep breath and then get away from the computer for some time. That helps.

Pain for what its worth: nothin, never a problem running ds in logic.

There are a lot of great things about Cubase. Considering the power of all our computers these days, I thought crashing was a thing of the past. (Especially since all my plugs are now bought and now ah…borrowed lol) But alas, Cubase crashes. Wouldn’t be that big a deal, but I guess the preferences reset and I hadn’t set a backup frequency. But one would think it would be backing up even if 10 minutes at a time or whatever. Got to the laaaast tweak and the fucker bit it. Not cool.

get you that HDX and problems solved... 

I’m not paying $600/year and buying avid adda

FWIW, I've been running Cubase for years (on PC) and it's been super solid.
If there's been a crash, which is extremely rare, the culprit was usually a plugin but in the end it's all ones/zeros and sometimes they shit the bed. PT is far from immune to this - I've had it crash as much if not more for one reason or another.

For the most part I avoid new versions of any major software, likely best to wait on the #.5 edition and even then, wait for a few updates.

Not pushing for Avid but HD Native works solid and no Avid adda

I'm back on Cubase 11.0.41 after too much hair-pulling from 12. It's just not stable for me.

Perhaps c11 doesn't have the latest versions of things i never use. Maybe I'm missing out on 10TB of R&B loops. I guess I'll never know...

Steinberg can be messy, particularly on MacOS. Keep those .bak files handy and ensure you're setting auto-save to a reasonable interval (i do 60 seconds).

I stan for Cubase, I admit it. I love this DAW for everything and anything. I can track and mix a group of musicians and simply use it as an integrated deck / desk / patchbay.... or I can explore the weirder corners of my brain with my electronic or metal music batcrappery. It can be "just like ProTools" (though that's more Nuendo-land) or a composing / beatmaking tool. I think that's what I love about it the most, it's the universal donor.

Anyways, Steinberg's most enduring and crucial flaw seems to be releases with bloat and bugs. I don't know how to code or project manage software, but if I were to "pull an Elon" and buy Steinberg from Yamaha, I'd bring a team in to create a new Cubase from the ground up, instead of layering on more band-aids and useless features. Strip it down to its essence, cut off all the unnecessary fat, and keep the things that make it so great to begin with.

Cubase 12 has been very stable for me. I try to use exclusively VST3 plugs. PT on Windows in a pure shitshow in my experience, but maybe I just never took the time to get everything configured properly.

With all the different DAWs you seem to own and upgrade all the time I'd bet it would save you money. 

And lots of options with hdx ports for converters. But the avid converts aren't bad. Certainly just as good as your uad stuff easily. 


Hell I'm using the digital I/o on old Digi 192 to feed a merging HAPI and it works flawlessly. 

But to each to their own.

This is why I love bitwig. No matter what happens it will restore everything from my last state. Even if my computer reboots and I didn't save it will bring up every project I have open and retain everything.