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Post by indiehouse on Nov 6, 2022 14:05:20 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 6, 2022 14:11:23 GMT -6
I'd like to...
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Post by Ward on Nov 6, 2022 14:30:58 GMT -6
It's going to really surprise a TON of people.
Everyone likes the old dox 160VU except that it gets noise, it overheats, it breaks down and well... overheating. If you leave it on for more than hour . . . if you know, you know!
Well, this one works.
It really works. It is the SLAP-CHOP (of the Smack Chop) of the audio world.
at the AES last month, even Vance (who said "I do not ever use or even like 160s") was impressed!
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Post by lowlou on Nov 6, 2022 14:49:55 GMT -6
Nice ! How does the pre-release works, do you know ? Are they already sold out ? I'd like to get one.
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Post by Ward on Nov 6, 2022 14:53:50 GMT -6
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Post by lowlou on Nov 6, 2022 14:55:49 GMT -6
Sold out already sadly...
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Post by indiehouse on Nov 6, 2022 15:57:54 GMT -6
I’m broke and out of rack space.
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Post by Ward on Nov 6, 2022 16:38:59 GMT -6
I’m broke and out of rack space. I'll mark you down for two then, next availability after you pay down your CC? LOL Most of us are perpetually in that same boat of not being able to buy when product is available but funds are not, or funds are available and the product is sold out. In this case, you're out of luck on both ends. The GAS is the enemy. |
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Post by Ward on Nov 6, 2022 16:40:20 GMT -6
Sold out already sadly... I'll post here when I know other availability is coming up and try t get you queued up and ready to go! Such a bargain too! (too damned cheap!) |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2022 16:50:40 GMT -6
I would like to see Audioscape make a 2-1176 ala Mohog Mofet76-2 and UA 2-1176 which are both discontinued, good for rack space..
back to the 160VU..
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Post by Ward on Nov 6, 2022 17:21:54 GMT -6
I would like to see Audioscape make a 2-1176 ala Mohog Mofet76-2 and UA 2-1176 which are both discontinued, good for rack space.. back to the 160VU.. The dual 76 concept isn't something lost on audioscape. However, we've had a surge of interest in an 1178 (ok, I'll admit it, started by me). So that is on the drawing board now. I can promise you that mad-scientist Chris Yetter is totally going to go one-better than the original and reduce noise, increase headroom and signal quality as well as quality control. |
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Post by lowlou on Nov 6, 2022 17:34:41 GMT -6
Sold out already sadly... I'll post here when I know other availability is coming up and try t get you queued up and ready to go! Such a bargain too! (too damned cheap!) A waiting list could still be an option ! I managed to get a D-comp directly from you, but it was during special sales, in working hours here in France... Also got a Classic DI, but these tend to last a tiny bit longer. The way regular weekly sales are conducted, in the middle of the night for europeans, and with only two or three 260VU available at a time, I'm probably not going to get one. I got my DA3A, MEQ-A and Vcomp+ from Reverb, there was no other way. Guess I'll try there for the 260VU in a year or two... |
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Post by hadaja on Nov 6, 2022 22:29:06 GMT -6
Price is not too bad on this.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2022 1:58:58 GMT -6
Not just a Dual 1176 - but say a blue stripe one side and an F on the other, or D & F in one unit.. The dual 76 concept isn't something lost on audioscape . However, we've had a surge of interest in an 1178 (ok, I'll admit it, started by me). So that is on the drawing board now. I can promise you that mad-scientist Chris Yetter is totally going to go one-better than the original and reduce noise, increase headroom and signal quality as well as quality control. |
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Post by thehightenor on Nov 7, 2022 2:03:26 GMT -6
I'd just like them to actually have something for sale when I visit their website!
They keep adding more products, which for me equates to more stuff not for sale.
I've wanted an opto compressor but never seen one for sale in the last three years when I've visited their web shop.
Now with the weakness of my currency they've become way more expensive to import.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 7, 2022 4:37:55 GMT -6
Contact them directly and let them know you are from rgo.
I understand its business model and it works well for them. For those of us , not purchasing in US and its $ and whom have shipping, tax and duties, buying any gear gets a lot more expensive.
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Post by stratboy on Nov 7, 2022 8:49:25 GMT -6
I’d love to own some AS gear, but my studio continues to move toward ITB, so take my comments with that in mind. I totally respect AS and their business, especially considering other companies’ more chaotic development on their way to reliable respectability.
In the guitar pedal world there’s a boutique builder called Analogman. They make the King of Tone, an overdrive pedal that’s well-respected and highly desirable. Last time I looked, the wait time to get one was four years. Yet Analogman still sells them for the same base price I got mine, approximately $250. You can sell a KoT for twice that on the open market the next day if you want. Few people do.
I’m typing all this because, reading the pleas from our European friends, I think the Analogman model might be worth considering. It keeps prices fair and AM always delivers what they promise, two key elements of the Audioscape value proposition.
AM’s KoT queue uses an email sign up. You fill out a form and get your spot. You can go to their website and get your ETA any time. When AM is ready to do a production run that includes your order, they ask you if you still want it. You say yes, they charge and ship. If you don’t, or don’t answer, they move to the next person in the queue. It’s simple and it works. It might make it possible for folks not in the US to get a special piece of gear, if they’re patient. It might also help AS with production planning and cash flow.
FWIW YMMV $0.02 etc
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Post by drastic on Nov 7, 2022 9:41:39 GMT -6
WANT!!! JUST bought a D-Comp though…Must replenish funds
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Post by Ward on Nov 7, 2022 10:28:01 GMT -6
I'd just like them to actually have something for sale when I visit their website! They keep adding more products, which for me equates to more stuff not for sale. I've wanted an opto compressor but never seen one for sale in the last three years when I've visited their web shop. Now with the weakness of my currency they've become way more expensive to import. I swear everyone is working hard on the supply problem! It is industry wide, and not just our industry. It's a global thing and started with the March-July 2020 shutdown in China. audioscape doesn't use Chinese parts, but a lot of people do and with less availability, more customers are shopping at our sources, thus limiting our supply. It's getting better all the time, and I can promise you everyone is doing all they can to have more availability! |
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 7, 2022 10:48:05 GMT -6
I’d love to own some AS gear, but my studio continues to move toward ITB, so take my comments with that in mind. I totally respect AS and their business, especially considering other companies’ more chaotic development on their way to reliable respectability. In the guitar pedal world there’s a boutique builder called Analogman. They make the King of Tone, an overdrive pedal that’s well-respected and highly desirable. Last time I looked, the wait time to get one was four years. Yet Analogman still sells them for the same base price I got mine, approximately $250. You can sell a KoT for twice that on the open market the next day if you want. Few people do. I’m typing all this because, reading the pleas from our European friends, I think the Analogman model might be worth considering. It keeps prices fair and AM always delivers what they promise, two key elements of the Audioscape value proposition. AM’s KoT queue uses an email sign up. You fill out a form and get your spot. You can go to their website and get your ETA any time. When AM is ready to do a production run that includes your order, they ask you if you still want it. You say yes, they charge and ship. If you don’t, or don’t answer, they move to the next person in the queue. It’s simple and it works. It might make it possible for folks not in the US to get a special piece of gear, if they’re patient. It might also help AS with production planning and cash flow. FWIW YMMV $0.02 etc I’d never buy something that promised a 4 year wait. Never. |
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Post by stratboy on Nov 7, 2022 10:51:24 GMT -6
I’d love to own some AS gear, but my studio continues to move toward ITB, so take my comments with that in mind. I totally respect AS and their business, especially considering other companies’ more chaotic development on their way to reliable respectability. In the guitar pedal world there’s a boutique builder called Analogman. They make the King of Tone, an overdrive pedal that’s well-respected and highly desirable. Last time I looked, the wait time to get one was four years. Yet Analogman still sells them for the same base price I got mine, approximately $250. You can sell a KoT for twice that on the open market the next day if you want. Few people do. I’m typing all this because, reading the pleas from our European friends, I think the Analogman model might be worth considering. It keeps prices fair and AM always delivers what they promise, two key elements of the Audioscape value proposition. AM’s KoT queue uses an email sign up. You fill out a form and get your spot. You can go to their website and get your ETA any time. When AM is ready to do a production run that includes your order, they ask you if you still want it. You say yes, they charge and ship. If you don’t, or don’t answer, they move to the next person in the queue. It’s simple and it works. It might make it possible for folks not in the US to get a special piece of gear, if they’re patient. It might also help AS with production planning and cash flow. FWIW YMMV $0.02 etc I’d never buy something that promised a 4 year wait. Never. I agree with you. That said, it’s a really good sounding pedal. Best OD pedal I have. When I got mine in 2019, I only had to wait 2 years. Also, the current wait time for a King of Tone is a distraction from consideration of the business model, which is a good one, IMO. |
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Post by ericn on Nov 7, 2022 12:00:16 GMT -6
I'd just like them to actually have something for sale when I visit their website! They keep adding more products, which for me equates to more stuff not for sale. I've wanted an opto compressor but never seen one for sale in the last three years when I've visited their web shop. Now with the weakness of my currency they've become way more expensive to import. Ward and the rest of the guys won’t say it so I will and no Ward and I have not had this conversation, everything you say is valid don’t get me wrong, but everyone one of your gripes is how they keep costs down. They could do the Stam approach, but they have seen all the complaints. Add more staff ? Okay but they have to make sure they can justify that staff based on sales, will the $ for that additional staff mean they can’t afford to place a parts order because that money is tied up in paying the new staff? Interest rates are going up so the cost of money is higher. Being a small business is roughl, being a small manufacturer is hell! Oh and if we do see a US rail strike getting just about anything will be impossible, |
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Post by stratboy on Nov 7, 2022 12:30:36 GMT -6
BTW, JK, Audioscape mentions you by name in their write up on the development history of their 260 as being an inspiration for pursuing the design. Pretty cool.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 7, 2022 13:09:24 GMT -6
BTW, JK, Audioscape mentions you by name in their write up on the development history of their 260 as being an inspiration for pursuing the design. Pretty cool. Oh wow - that’s awesome! I did suggest it a while back. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2022 13:47:58 GMT -6
Audioscape has advanced to 70s tech! One of the most useful compressors of all time made better. If it's too smacky, DIG IN MORE because attack speeds up and release slow down. If the hard knee threshold is too audible, compress everything at a lower ratio and dig in! Come on this is a dbx 160. You're going to have to limit it afterwards if you use it on vocals anyway hahahahaha. The only thing this could use is the overeasy button. yo Ward does this expand before clamping down like the real dbx hardware? the dbx hardware vs plugin emulations (kill me now. why have code failing to emulate electronics trying to do math when you can just have code do math?  ??) is as big as the 1176 where almost every decent clone (or hardware fet comp) eats any emulation |
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??) is as big as the 1176 where almost every decent clone (or hardware fet comp) eats any emulation