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Post by chessparov on Oct 21, 2022 17:54:16 GMT -6
I'll beat you to it Chris : " performative hubris" - My girlfriend accuses me of that (at least if I had one she might - maybe that's why I lost the last one!) Cheers, Ross This is why you marry them, you make your self far to expensive to divorce 😎 1973 "Cheaper To Keep Her"-Johnnie Taylor 2022 "Cheaper To Keep Him"-RGO Sage ericn Chris |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2022 0:00:30 GMT -6
Reason number 1 is they’re clones but not really clones. They’re just cheap FET, opto, vca compressors, pres and binned OEM Chinese mics that use similar model numbers and controls to confuse people. The functionality and sound might not be there but they’re trying a lot harder than say Behringer is with Klark technics. Art gets more of a pass than Warm because it’s cheaper and they’ve made some good stuff like the MPA II Gold and the Dual Limiter Meh. I've used their take on the 47, the 3124, their 1176. I have also, in each case, used the real thing in a real studio as well. Warm has more than respectable value proposition. I suppose Bryce is laughing all the way to the bank, and I certainly don't see it as my role to defend or impugn any brand. What it does do, is shit up the discourse with what is essentially politics. Glad we don't do it much over here, and Dan I do appreciate your thoughtful response. I get it, but I'm annoyed by the needless repetition on other boards. I have the same issue with clones that I do with emulation plugs or this shit with a million parameters: make something new for god fucking sakes and make it work. Yeah that shit is cool but there is so much stuff that an LA2A, an 1176, an API pre, or an SSL Bus comp type thing does no favors to. There is some really good more modern stuff and maybe half of it is discontinued because guys wanted to relive the 60s. Then in the digital realm: guys who use waves whatever will dismiss any analog gear including Warm, guys will defend cheap reverbs to the death that sound worse than almost any Lexicon or even Alesis product, and guys will praise plug-ins that sound like a Alesis 3630 or dbx 160 at best. Then there are the talking heads who claim all you need comes with your daw and their productions of course sound like a plastic recycling process. |
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Post by thehightenor on Oct 22, 2022 2:02:47 GMT -6
I should actually add that to the rules: “threatening to leave without just leaving results in automatic ban” lol It’s the passive aggression that drives me nuts. Similar to the philosophy, "The time to fire someone is when it first crosses your mind.". If I followed that philosophy my band would never have a keyboard player  |
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Post by gwlee7 on Oct 22, 2022 6:53:25 GMT -6
I should actually add that to the rules: “threatening to leave without just leaving results in automatic ban” lol It’s the passive aggression that drives me nuts. Forum retirement speeches are both hilarious and annoying. In my opinion the person making them is just hoping to get a lot of people to say, “oh no, we love you, please don’t leave”. Just STFU and leave. |
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Post by ericn on Oct 22, 2022 8:44:43 GMT -6
This is why you marry them, you make your self far to expensive to divorce 😎 1973 "Cheaper To Keep Her"-Johnnie Taylor 2022 "Cheaper To Keep Him"-RGO Sage ericn Chris What can I say but I have had more plastic work done than a Kardashian, and expect to be treated like one🥸 |
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Post by Chad on Oct 22, 2022 12:42:01 GMT -6
I should actually add that to the rules: “threatening to leave without just leaving results in automatic ban” lol It’s the passive aggression that drives me nuts. Forum retirement speeches are both hilarious and annoying. In my opinion the person making them is just hoping to get a lot of people to say, “oh no, we love you, please don’t leave”. Just STFU and leave. “Forum retirement speeches” Haha! I don’t know why but I just pictured Michael Scott from ‘the office’ doing a “forum retirement speech.”  |
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Post by plinker on Oct 22, 2022 14:21:36 GMT -6
Leaving forums be like
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Post by Ward on Oct 23, 2022 12:55:09 GMT -6
Reason number 1 is they’re clones but not really clones. They’re just cheap FET, opto, vca compressors, pres and binned OEM Chinese mics that use similar model numbers and controls to confuse people. The functionality and sound might not be there but they’re trying a lot harder than say Behringer is with Klark technics. So much truth in this post. Nothing but truth. The cheap clones are: All clone, no tone. |
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Post by Ward on Oct 23, 2022 12:58:14 GMT -6
I have the same issue with clones that I do with emulation plugs or this shit with a million parameters: make something new for god fucking sakes and make it work. Yeah that shit is cool but there is so much stuff that an LA2A, an 1176, an API pre, or an SSL Bus comp type thing does no favors to. There is some really good more modern stuff and maybe half of it is discontinued because guys wanted to relive the 60s. Then in the digital realm: guys who use waves whatever will dismiss any analog gear including Warm, guys will defend cheap reverbs to the death that sound worse than almost any Lexicon or even Alesis product, and guys will praise plug-ins that sound like a Alesis 3630 or dbx 160 at best. Then there are the talking heads who claim all you need comes with your daw and their productions of course sound like a plastic recycling process. again, we're sharing the brain. And it is the philosophy of 'Make it as if the designer was allowed to do what he wanted without restriction and had time to evaluate it and fix the things overlooked" that led me to join in with Audio-Scape. I'll leave it at that, don't want to start shilling and get a banning! But you all know where I am. if I can ever help you. There IS a better way. Just like RGO is a better forum. This place is a TREASURE! |
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Post by chessparov on Oct 23, 2022 13:27:04 GMT -6
Of course "Banning" is not only a concept. It's a city in California!
Imagine if they "all" had to move there?
And must I remind you guys...
My beloved Nanocompressor (no matter how much John Eppstein or Hudson want it) is still NOT for sale!
Chris
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Post by Ward on Oct 23, 2022 13:34:16 GMT -6
Of course "Banning" is not ...SNIP . . . And must I remind you guys... My beloved Nanocompressor (no matter how much John Eppstein or Hudson want it) is still NOT for sale! Chris I *would* consider selling on of those guys my 1988 Alesis Micro-Limiter if the price were right. I've had it long enough. Time to pass that joy on to someone else. |
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Post by chessparov on Oct 23, 2022 14:23:18 GMT -6
How about a RGO Contest? 1st Place-Micro-Limiter. 2nd Place-Micro-Limiter AND Nanocompressor. On the WHOLE Mix loud and clear for all to hear!* Chris *Apologies to Elf the Movie. |
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Post by ericn on Oct 23, 2022 14:52:04 GMT -6
Of course "Banning" is not only a concept. It's a city in California! Imagine if they "all" had to move there? And must I remind you guys... My beloved Nanocompressor (no matter how much John Eppstein or Hudson want it) is still NOT for sale! Chris If we are going the famous quote pun route Nano Nan NO😁 |
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Post by johneppstein on Oct 24, 2022 11:26:46 GMT -6
never mind...
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Post by chessparov on Oct 24, 2022 17:17:03 GMT -6
Nirvana?
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