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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 4, 2014 21:28:57 GMT -6
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Post by svart on Jun 4, 2014 22:06:46 GMT -6
I love dry vocals. Not one of the bands where I've tried to leave the vocal dry have loved it in the least.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Jun 4, 2014 23:16:42 GMT -6
Yeah but um.. thats Glen Campbell...
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Post by Ward on Jun 5, 2014 6:30:02 GMT -6
I have yet to meet a vocalist with the confidence needed to release a vocal 'naked', myself included. Most all singers like to be bathed in effects. But yes, I love hearing a great vocal dry too!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2014 6:37:47 GMT -6
Glenn is a vocal hero. Love all he has done from beginning to end.
I hear some pretty naked stuff here and there, Keith Urban's soft pieces seem to be from the car environment though on monitors they would likely reveal some small room on them either naturally or with a verb.
Maybe that's the trick to try. Record in a larger and good sounding room and then leave it be.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 5, 2014 6:50:56 GMT -6
Wasn't almost every recording "dry" before Les Paul' created tape slap-back echo?
Frank Sinatra stood in front of a mike, and sang, it was the room and technique we hear. Perhaps there was some compression then, I'm not sure. I think many of Rick Rubin's productions, including the Chili Peppers used a quite dry sound too. I keep trying to use less reverb on my vocal mixes, but then I can't stand the pain of hearing it dry, ugh..
Glen's pitch is just soooo good, it's a reminder that I need to get my chops back.
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Post by lolo on Jun 5, 2014 6:56:52 GMT -6
Glenn is a vocal hero. Love all he has done from beginning to end. I hear some pretty naked stuff here and there, Keith Urban's soft pieces seem to be from the car environment though on monitors they would likely reveal some small room on them either naturally or with a verb. Maybe that's the trick to try. Record in a larger and good sounding room and then leave it be. I hear alot of room in Urbans stuff
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2014 12:52:10 GMT -6
You may be right on 99% of his. Will relisten to something on I'm remembering and post back.
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Post by Ward on Jun 5, 2014 14:26:20 GMT -6
Sometimes dry vocals don't work. The vocals on many of the early Thin Lizzy records were painfully dry and stark and did Phil Linnott no justice at all.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 5, 2014 19:02:00 GMT -6
Yeah - I think it depends on the song. And it also depends on what's popular at the time. We're all looking to stand out, so sometimes I think doing the opposite of what's popular is the way to go.
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Post by warren on Jun 6, 2014 0:03:40 GMT -6
Just like when hiphop was being incorporated in country?
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Post by Ward on Jun 6, 2014 9:19:00 GMT -6
Just like when hiphop was being incorporated in country? Funny, the 'rap' style in country actually shows its roots WAY WAY WAY back in Country Music. The 'narrative' section of many country songs in the 70s like 'Come on back and talk to Teddy Bear', 'A Boy Named Sue' etc could be considered part of the influence that created rap in the first place. So, today's hippity hoppity narrative style in country could be considered the grandchild of the 70s.
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Post by papag on Jun 6, 2014 9:37:45 GMT -6
I think you'll find that it was Antony Carmichael who heavily influenced the creation of rap:
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Post by warren on Jun 6, 2014 9:53:34 GMT -6
haha I was just being a smart Alec. And good pointing out those songs. Though believe influence that created rap/hiphop stems more from african roots and work songs that predates the 70s Back on topic though, I think we'll see more dry vocals as new artists try something different and then it'll become a trend and everyone will do it, then it'll fade and maybe robotic vocals will takes it's place and the cycle will continue
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