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Post by RealNoob on Aug 1, 2022 10:02:22 GMT -6
So, working on a new album and setting the feel with the first song. I am using a reference track and near the end, began to do some master EQ changes (nothing drastic) to better get in the ballpark of the reference. I knew what I was hearing but couldn't quite get there. I tried PA Bettermaker (which I love), PA Soma, PA AMEK 200, PA Elysia Museq, Softube Pultec, Waves TG MAstering and all got me close and using the BM plus the SOMA or another was even closer.
I took a chance and popped the Tokyo Dawn Nova GE and made the moves I had come to from using the others and BAM, there it was. I reduced some of the band compression and I am surprised at how good it sounds.
Previously, my best use for THAT EQ is to remove tonal problems from live recorded vocals. It does an amazing job of bringing them to a fairly neutral place where they will take EQ well.
Anyone else try NOVA on the master?
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Post by mcirish on Aug 1, 2022 10:28:24 GMT -6
I've only used it as a problem solver (harsh sounds). My usual go-to on the master buss is Softube Curve Bender. I'll have to give Nova a shot next mix.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2022 11:02:06 GMT -6
Only for de-essing, uncontrolled guitar and bass resonances, and mud build up from double kicks. TDR Nova GE on insane and musical is the cleanest dynamic eq without stupid automatic holds and filtered side chains.
Both notches and shelves for the kicks. The kick is important because a lot of metal mixers seem to be clueless without pre-eqed machine gun samples. They wuss out of cutting the mud enough and do stupid things like a high pass filter on the sidechain of the kick compressor, aggravating the bass build up from the kick not decaying before the next note instead of smashing the bass down.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2022 11:02:50 GMT -6
TDR Slick EQ M is also a great static master eq but can’t do sharp notches.
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Post by trakworxmastering on Aug 4, 2022 11:05:27 GMT -6
So, working on a new album and setting the feel with the first song. I am using a reference track and near the end, began to do some master EQ changes (nothing drastic) to better get in the ballpark of the reference. I knew what I was hearing but couldn't quite get there. I tried PA Bettermaker (which I love), PA Soma, PA AMEK 200, PA Elysia Museq, Softube Pultec, Waves TG MAstering and all got me close and using the BM plus the SOMA or another was even closer. I took a chance and popped the Tokyo Dawn Nova GE and made the moves I had come to from using the others and BAM, there it was. I reduced some of the band compression and I am surprised at how good it sounds. Previously, my best use for THAT EQ is to remove tonal problems from live recorded vocals. It does an amazing job of bringing them to a fairly neutral place where they will take EQ well. Anyone else try NOVA on the master? If I understand correctly, you tried several static EQs and then got the desired result with a dynamic EQ. That's the main difference, and to me it suggests something in the mix needed taming before it would sit right. It's common to use dynamic EQs for that purpose in mastering, and now that you've discovered that you like it you might explore other dynamic EQs and multibands as well. There are a lot of good ones that offer various capabilities. I'm sure NOVA is great, and you might find something that you like even more. I use a few different ones for different situations. Multiplicity is pretty amazing and most versatile. Enjoy! |
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Post by RealNoob on Aug 11, 2022 22:15:51 GMT -6
So, working on a new album and setting the feel with the first song. I am using a reference track and near the end, began to do some master EQ changes (nothing drastic) to better get in the ballpark of the reference. I knew what I was hearing but couldn't quite get there. I tried PA Bettermaker (which I love), PA Soma, PA AMEK 200, PA Elysia Museq, Softube Pultec, Waves TG MAstering and all got me close and using the BM plus the SOMA or another was even closer. I took a chance and popped the Tokyo Dawn Nova GE and made the moves I had come to from using the others and BAM, there it was. I reduced some of the band compression and I am surprised at how good it sounds. Previously, my best use for THAT EQ is to remove tonal problems from live recorded vocals. It does an amazing job of bringing them to a fairly neutral place where they will take EQ well. Anyone else try NOVA on the master? If I understand correctly, you tried several static EQs and then got the desired result with a dynamic EQ. That's the main difference, and to me it suggests something in the mix needed taming before it would sit right. It's common to use dynamic EQs for that purpose in mastering, and now that you've discovered that you like it you might explore other dynamic EQs and multibands as well. There are a lot of good ones that offer various capabilities. I'm sure NOVA is great, and you might find something that you like even more. I use a few different ones for different situations. Multiplicity is pretty amazing and most versatile. Enjoy! Hey Justin, yes, you stated the differences correctly. I slept on it and the next day began pulling back thresholds - lol. Maybe being different was what stuck out, I dunno. Then I went back to A/Bing and stuck with the Millenia Emulation. By the end, I was doing much less than I started with - adding a little top and bottom and pulling back a bit of 3K-ish. i previously loved the Bettermaker but realized there was some low mid haze. Thanks for the Multiplicity tip. |
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Post by sentientsound on Jun 16, 2023 12:26:04 GMT -6
SlickEQ M has a couple standout features for 2bus EQ, besides the gentle curves.
The LF and HF exciters sound good as do the high and low cut filters (I often use it in 96k mix sessions to LPF things a bit in front of other nonlinear processing).
There's also the handy LF monoing control if the mix sounds too loose on the bottom.
Double-clicking the central logo also creates subtle L/R differences that can make a mix slightly more open sounding.
Try a few of the random settings until one feels enhancing, then bypasss to be sure.
EDIT: you can also use the undo/redo buttons to step back and forth through then.
In the mixed-phase mode you can also add some nice spread (or center focusing) of different bands.
BTW if you're finding some nice control from Nova's dynamic action, you can alternatively try to figure out which instruments or combinations of sounds are too unstable or resonant.
Controlling those at the channel or bus level always gives me a cleaner mix.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2023 12:48:52 GMT -6
SlickEQ M has a couple standout features for 2bus EQ, besides the gentle curves. The LF and HF exciters sound good as do the high and low cut filters (I often use it in 96k mix sessions to LPF things a bit in front of other nonlinear processing). There's also the handy LF monoing control if the mix sounds too loose on the bottom. Double-clicking the central logo also creates subtle L/R differences that can make a mix slightly more open sounding. Try a few of the random settings until one feels enhancing, then bypasss to be sure. In the mixed-phase mode you can also add some nice spread (or center focusing) of different bands. BTW if you're finding some nice control from Nova's dynamic action, you can alternatively try to figure out which instruments or combinations of sounds are too unstable or resonant. Controlling those at the channel or bus level always gives me a cleaner mix. Slick EQ M saturation is often so subtle it works for clean masters that aren’t being heavily limited. Nova GE also makes a killer channel strip. Likely the best itb for sound quality. Use the general channel for good rms compression. Use + mode for transformer modeling. Very cool. I could mix an entire well-recorded record with it and something for peak control. |
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Post by sentientsound on Jun 17, 2023 13:13:27 GMT -6
SlickEQ M has a couple standout features for 2bus EQ, besides the gentle curves. The LF and HF exciters sound good as do the high and low cut filters (I often use it in 96k mix sessions to LPF things a bit in front of other nonlinear processing). There's also the handy LF monoing control if the mix sounds too loose on the bottom. Double-clicking the central logo also creates subtle L/R differences that can make a mix slightly more open sounding. Try a few of the random settings until one feels enhancing, then bypasss to be sure. In the mixed-phase mode you can also add some nice spread (or center focusing) of different bands. BTW if you're finding some nice control from Nova's dynamic action, you can alternatively try to figure out which instruments or combinations of sounds are too unstable or resonant. Controlling those at the channel or bus level always gives me a cleaner mix. Slick EQ M saturation is often so subtle it works for clean masters that aren’t being heavily limited. Nova GE also makes a killer channel strip. Likely the best itb for sound quality. Use the general channel for good rms compression. Use + mode for transformer modeling. Very cool. I could mix an entire well-recorded record with it and something for peak control. Oddly enough I find myself not using the nonlinear mode on it ever.Just feel it sounds better without, as a great channel EQ for cleanup (Precise is good enough at 96k here). It's my quick goto for adding directly on items in Reaper. I actually also use Voxengo's Voxformer as a general channel strip when I remember. It has a good-sounding but less featured EQ, but a couple good compression options, expansion, de-essing, and saturation on tap. |
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