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Post by chessparov on Jun 22, 2022 16:26:59 GMT -6
Been wondering what (preferably Free or Low cost) Compression Plugs work well on a Budget PC. We're talking HP Stream here.  Is Waves OK, at the nice Project Studio level? Etc... Thanks in advance, for your help. Chris |
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Post by chessparov on Jun 22, 2022 16:29:26 GMT -6
BTW tried Reaper, but it was overkill at my level. Setting up screens etc.
Using Multitrackstudio/Bandlab/Audacity, and (if need be) the recent nTrack.
Chris
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Post by notneeson on Jun 22, 2022 16:49:45 GMT -6
Massey CT5, and it’s hard to make it sound bad.
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Post by chessparov on Jun 22, 2022 18:07:22 GMT -6
Thanks!
Chris
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Post by Dan on Jun 22, 2022 18:23:29 GMT -6
waves renaissance compressor is still the best waves compressor.
sonnox oxford dynamics is still great but expensive
psp oldtimer is cool
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Post by Dan on Jun 22, 2022 19:14:10 GMT -6
Specs say 8GB minimum for both Renaissance and the Massey (also not running PT). Chris Chris, the Waves Renaissance bundle came out in 1999. Your computer can run it. Sonnox was spun off from Sony and the Oxford plugs came out in the early 2000s. They're more expensive than Waves though. OldTimer came out in about 2009 and can be had for about 30 dollars on sale.
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Post by Dan on Jun 22, 2022 19:16:58 GMT -6
Also if you're only going to be using one instance: Tokyo Dawn Labs Kotelnikov is free. Your computer definitely should be able to run one instance of it. Check out the free Variety of Sound plugs too varietyofsound.wordpress.com/ ThrillseekerLA or a replacement should eventually come to 64-bit. Windows only. |
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Post by chessparov on Jun 22, 2022 19:41:52 GMT -6
Awesome! Thanks guys. (I will edit my prior posts) Chris |
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Post by earlevel on Jun 23, 2022 0:57:11 GMT -6
Some months back, I learned a lesson. I was watching a video of a mix engineer we all know, in which he showed how quickly he got his basic mix up in the first pass of the tracks. On the vocal, he put up RVox (basically Renaissance Compressor but without attack/decay and a few other options, geared for vocals). I thought wtf? That old thing? Not a signature plugin?
I opened a song I was working on, muted whatever awesome Neve-mimicking oversampled plugin I had up and had tweaked till it was just right, and put up RVox. I sounded really good. Just right. Sheesh. And I don't really like listening to me.
The lesson was to quit chasing the endless stream of new plugins and new features. Use something that works and get on with making music. Just because it's not in the latest youtube shootout of a dozen LA-2A clones being compared to the vintage hardware, or doesn't have a dozen parameters to tweak, doesn't mean it's not suitable for making music. Maybe it's more suitable.
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Post by sean on Jun 23, 2022 5:11:58 GMT -6
OldTimer and Rvox or Rcomp are probably my most used compressors. OldTimer is zero latency, which an awesome feature as well. I don't know how demanding the InfiniStrip but it might be a good one to check out
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Post by Guitar on Jun 23, 2022 6:00:08 GMT -6
In addition to what the others have said, check out the free Jon V FirComp VST, no cost. I think it's gonna be really light on your CPU. Also, sounds great.
But I can also vouch for Renn Comp, RVox, and OldTimer. Although, I haven't got Oxford Dynamics, at this time, but it looks great.
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Post by svart on Jun 23, 2022 6:27:15 GMT -6
I haven't really seen any compressor take much resources at all. The only ones I see using any significant resources these days are reverbs, autotunes, amp sims or ones that need to process large amounts of signal (like Soothe, etc).
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Post by tkaitkai on Jun 23, 2022 9:43:56 GMT -6
In addition to what the others have said, check out the free Jon V FirComp VST, no cost. I think it's gonna be really light on your CPU. Also, sounds great. But I can also vouch for Renn Comp, RVox, and OldTimer. Although, I haven't got Oxford Dynamics, at this time, but it looks great. FirComp is excellent. It's pretty much my go-to compressor for everything at this point. The true-zero attack time is stellar. |
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Post by Guitar on Jun 23, 2022 9:47:08 GMT -6
The expensive version of "this" that might eventually drop one of these days is the MDW compressor plugin, the Massenburg version of "simple, light CPU." I expect it to be about $150, but who knows. The EQ is really good. Annoying dongle requirement. But great.
In case anyone is wondering about the logical extension of these types of plugins in 2022. Not that you can't just use Waves Renn, Sonnox, whatever, of course you can.
The funny part, to me, is $150 is probably cheaper than a single Rennaissance or Sonnox plugin used to be back in the day.
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Post by Guitar on Jun 23, 2022 9:48:11 GMT -6
Also add Klanghelm MJUC to the list for a "mojo" style compressor. Also not expensive.
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Post by Guitar on Jun 23, 2022 9:49:09 GMT -6
In addition to what the others have said, check out the free Jon V FirComp VST, no cost. I think it's gonna be really light on your CPU. Also, sounds great. But I can also vouch for Renn Comp, RVox, and OldTimer. Although, I haven't got Oxford Dynamics, at this time, but it looks great. FirComp is excellent. It's pretty much my go-to compressor for everything at this point. The true-zero attack time is stellar. Do you have the $30 one, or do you just use the free one? I haven't got the gumption to pay for the V2 yet.
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Post by tkaitkai on Jun 23, 2022 9:56:07 GMT -6
FirComp is excellent. It's pretty much my go-to compressor for everything at this point. The true-zero attack time is stellar. Do you have the $30 one, or do you just use the free one? I haven't got the gumption to pay for the V2 yet.
Just the free one. I tried it out very early on and loved it immediately. I haven't gotten around to trying V2, mostly because the simplicity of V1 is hard to beat. JonV absolutely nailed it with this one for sure. |
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Post by Dan on Jun 23, 2022 12:14:22 GMT -6
I haven't really seen any compressor take much resources at all. The only ones I see using any significant resources these days are reverbs, autotunes, amp sims or ones that need to process large amounts of signal (like Soothe, etc). The compressor plugins that heavily oversample the side chain to have working fast attacks and multiple releases are cpu monsters if you have instances on multiple tracks: Cytomic The Glue and DMG Trackcomp at 16x oversampling, TDR Kotelnikov and Molot on Insane, Pulsar audio smasher and 1178 at 8x or higher, psp Impressor at 16x even on a latest and greatest computer, throwing them on a mix can grind it to a stutter |
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Post by chessparov on Jun 23, 2022 12:46:59 GMT -6
I just have a one track mind. Chris |
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Post by Dan on Jun 23, 2022 13:58:20 GMT -6
The expensive version of "this" that might eventually drop one of these days is the MDW compressor plugin, the Massenburg version of "simple, light CPU." I expect it to be about $150, but who knows. The EQ is really good. Annoying dongle requirement. But great. In case anyone is wondering about the logical extension of these types of plugins in 2022. Not that you can't just use Waves Renn, Sonnox, whatever, of course you can. The funny part, to me, is $150 is probably cheaper than a single Rennaissance or Sonnox plugin used to be back in the day. It’s been years since the first screenshots leaked. Also I wish he would allow the GML option to be in the vst and au oxford eq. I get that it’s competition for his own plug but variety is the spice of life and many people would buy both of them |
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Post by skav on Jun 24, 2022 13:07:14 GMT -6
A used UAD PCI-e card such as a QUAD Core with the legacy 1176 and la-2a will run smooth. Just a suggestion. These legacy compressors are great IMO. Works great whilst recording.
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Post by chessparov on Jun 24, 2022 13:18:09 GMT -6
AFAIK the HP Streams are non-upgradable.
But I have an old Toshiba Satellite too, that can be upgraded.
Thanks, Chris
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Post by Dan on Jun 24, 2022 13:25:36 GMT -6
earlevel sean chessparov Waves just effed up the cpu usage of the Renaissance plugs with bad new high rez guis. Now this thing uses more cpu than Kotelnikov on my older laptop. McDSP just did so too. They’ve joined the ranks of softube for poorly coded supposedly “low cpu” plugs. Back to Sonnox and psp Oldtimer
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Post by earlevel on Jun 24, 2022 14:13:00 GMT -6
earlevel sean chessparov Waves just effed up the cpu usage of the Renaissance plugs with bad new high rez guis. Now this thing uses more cpu than Kotelnikov on my older laptop. McDSP just did so too. They’ve joined the ranks of softube for poorly coded supposedly “low cpu” plugs. Back to Sonnox and psp Oldtimer You're probably in a different graphics performance world than I am, there's scant difference in having the GUI open or not for me. I'm running a 16-core 2019 Mac Pro (W5700X graphics), so not strapped for cycles, but I just put up various plugins for a crude check, and RVox and RComp are at the bottom of cpu usage for me. Roughly, normalized to UAD: 1.81 Lindell 80 1.54 Neutron 3 Compressor 1.00 UAD 1176LN Legacy (host overhead, running on UAD2 satellite) 0.90 MW FET-76 0.88 RVox 0.65 RCompressor The Lindell 80 is obviously a full channel strip, running at the default 2x oversampling; disabling oversampling drops it to 1.5, 16x puts it at 4.23. MW (Master Works) compressor is a Digital Performer freebee. As you can see, the Waves plugins take less cpu than hosting an external UAD plugin. It may be a totally different story for you—and I don't have the plugins you mentioned to try out. As another reference Valhalla Room is about 1.80. |
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Post by chessparov on Jun 24, 2022 14:34:23 GMT -6
Old Timer looks fun.
There's a MJUC Jr. too. The occasional backing track for something "important", I'll add vocals too... Objectively is better, without me putting any Compression on. Let alone Reverb. LOL!
Chris
P.S. PSP's FETpressor looks interesting also.
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