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Post by svart on May 24, 2014 17:26:06 GMT -6
So i got a crazy deal on a pair of ns10t. Word is they are the home version of the ns10m and may or may not have a slightly different crossover.
Anyone have these?
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Post by svart on May 25, 2014 8:10:35 GMT -6
I guess no one eh? I'll report when I get them. Now I need a good power amp. The only one I have is small and used for driving my auratones.
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Post by tonycamphd on May 25, 2014 8:51:06 GMT -6
I guess no one eh? I'll report when I get them. Now I need a good power amp. The only one I have is small and used for driving my auratones. Pick up an adcom 545 or 555, u can get em for a song, and with ur skill set, u could dial it into an unobtanium quality level! IMO |
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Post by svart on May 25, 2014 9:30:33 GMT -6
Ah good suggestion. I found one for like 90$ broken on ebay. I'll see how my 70W LM3886 amps do on these before going to the Adcom 545 which is only 100W. I don't plan on driving these beyond 85dB anyway, so barely loud.. Really I only need the power for making the drivers reasonably reproduce instantaneous transients.
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Post by svart on May 30, 2014 20:38:32 GMT -6
Well, I got my NS-10T pair today. Yep, they're NS-10s. Sound pretty much identical except the bass is a little more boomy due to the larger box. I might glue a piece of 2x4 inside the boxes to get the volume back down to the size of the NS-10M but otherwise, I'm painting the horrid wood grain and putting them up on the console with my JBLs and Auratones. Now I have the gamut of monitors.
I pulled up the mixes for the band I've been recording and listened through the NS-10T's. I have to say that I found a couple little spots that needed some cuts but other than that, I was pretty spot-on using the JBL/Auratones. The NS-10 set did help me with the low end a bit. I've heard of the "flab" that can happen if the bass region in a mix is sorta messed up and these NS-10's found that pretty quick. A small cut in the lows on the bass guitar set that straight.
And yes, these sound absolutely terrible, but my mix sounds wonderful elsewhere.
Seems like my gainclones worked OK. I might still try the Adcom solution, but I read from a few sources that sometimes they don't play well with NS-10s.
I also took the speaker apart and checked out the crossover. The NS-10M studio version used 2x 2.7uF caps in parallel to make 5.4uF. These have a single 4.7uF cap. The inductors look similar but it's impossible to tell if they are the same without comparing with an LCR meter.
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Post by tonycamphd on May 30, 2014 21:14:18 GMT -6
Well, I got my NS-10T pair today. Yep, they're NS-10s. Sound pretty much identical except the bass is a little more boomy due to the larger box. I might glue a piece of 2x4 inside the boxes to get the volume back down to the size of the NS-10M but otherwise, I'm painting the horrid wood grain and putting them up on the console with my JBLs and Auratones. Now I have the gamut of monitors. I pulled up the mixes for the band I've been recording and listened through the NS-10T's. I have to say that I found a couple little spots that needed some cuts but other than that, I was pretty spot-on using the JBL/Auratones. The NS-10 set did help me with the low end a bit. I've heard of the "flab" that can happen if the bass region in a mix is sorta messed up and these NS-10's found that pretty quick. A small cut in the lows on the bass guitar set that straight.And yes, these sound absolutely terrible, but my mix sounds wonderful elsewhere. Seems like my gainclones worked OK. I might still try the Adcom solution, but I read from a few sources that sometimes they don't play well with NS-10s. I also took the speaker apart and checked out the crossover. The NS-10M studio version used 2x 2.7uF caps in parallel to make 5.4uF. These have a single 4.7uF cap. The inductors look similar but it's impossible to tell if they are the same without comparing with an LCR meter. i'm glad to hear this, i kinda noticed that in the latest parking lot mix, I didn't want to be a pita and say something, post up the new mix when you can, i'd love to hear it! |
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Post by svart on Jun 1, 2014 0:01:49 GMT -6
So I really didn't like the wood grain..  |
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Post by jimwilliams on Jun 1, 2014 11:32:09 GMT -6
Yamaha crossovers are pretty bad quality. I used to replace those caps and coils way back in the 1980's ,when they were more universally used. A quality 4.7 uf film cap like a Rel-Cap RT does the trick. Add a .01 uf RT 600V as a bypass. Then, remove the iron cored coil and measure it's DC resistance and inductance on a meter. Swap it to a copper foil inductor as made by Aries or Solo, (available from www.michaelpercyaudio.com) and hear what that crap crossover has been filtering out for you. |
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