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Post by woofhead on Mar 19, 2022 14:18:09 GMT -6
I recently purchased an anaview class d stereo amp from Svart here on the forum and want to assemble speaker wire with speakons and when I went to order the connectors I was looking at different wire from mogami canare and horizon. Ive always just bought bulk 12 gauge pure copper but thought Id ask for opinions on differences. I would assume some are better for longer lengths, have different gauges or # of wires etc. but aside from that.... Do class D amps prefer something diff. to ab amps? Perhaps speakers react differently? I'm guessing some are "faster" which would appeal to me.I bought the Svart amp to try with my tannoy ellipse 10s which are similar to system 10s but with an additional "supertweeter" and having an egg shaped enclosure. Looking forward to learning more thanks, Mike
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Post by svart on Mar 21, 2022 8:45:03 GMT -6
I recently purchased an anaview class d stereo amp from Svart here on the forum and want to assemble speaker wire with speakons and when I went to order the connectors I was looking at different wire from mogami canare and horizon. Ive always just bought bulk 12 gauge pure copper but thought Id ask for opinions on differences. I would assume some are better for longer lengths, have different gauges or # of wires etc. but aside from that.... Do class D amps prefer something diff. to ab amps? Perhaps speakers react differently? I'm guessing some are "faster" which would appeal to me.I bought the Svart amp to try with my tannoy ellipse 10s which are similar to system 10s but with an additional "supertweeter" and having an egg shaped enclosure. Looking forward to learning more thanks, Mike At such low impedances for speakers, the cable parasitics don't matter nearly as much as for something very high impedance like guitar cables, or to a lesser extent line-level audio. What matters most here is copper loss from series resistance and inductance, so the best choice is always something larger gauge. I'm not one to buy into woven cables or specialty materials. 12 gauge stranded copper is fine. I believe that quality connectors matter much more. Where the conductor stranding meets the connector as well as where the connector meets the connectors in the speaker matter here. It doesn't matter what conductor material you use if your connectors aren't making good contact. Speakon and banana are generally what I regard as the best connections. |
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Post by ericn on Mar 27, 2022 22:34:58 GMT -6
As much as I agree with most of what SVART said, over almost 40 years this has been a house of Kimber 8tc for close to 40 year.
It works, the design is based on real science and it just works.
Keep in mind, this has slots to do with SVART said the “weakest cable connector “ situation is probably not going to be between the amp and the box but inside the box.
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Post by johneppstein on Mar 28, 2022 10:53:33 GMT -6
As much as I agree with most of what SVART said, over almost 40 years this has been a house of Kimber 8tc for close to 40 year. It works, the design is based on real science and it just works. Keep in mind, this has slots to do with SVART said the “weakest cable connector “ situation is probably not going to be between the amp and the box but inside the box. Depending on who builds your boxes... |
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Post by plinker on May 14, 2022 19:47:11 GMT -6
When I bought my Pelonis speaker from stratboy he sold them with these cables that he made from: diyaudioprojects.com/Power/Low-Inductance-DIY-Speaker-Cables/He insisted they sounded way better than the cheap lamp-cord that originally came with the speakers. I haven't compared them to anything but the pictures on that DIY link sure look a lot like the twists in the Kimber cables that ericn uses. |
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Post by ericn on May 15, 2022 19:50:37 GMT -6
When I bought my Pelonis speaker from stratboy he sold them with these cables that he made from: diyaudioprojects.com/Power/Low-Inductance-DIY-Speaker-Cables/He insisted they sounded way better than the cheap lamp-cord that originally came with the speakers. I haven't compared them to anything but the pictures on that DIY link sure look a lot like the twists in the Kimber cables that ericn uses. Yeah I have seen those DIY fake Kimber and even some really good commercial Fakes. It’s not just the Weave that makes Kimber, Kimber l, it’s the quality of copper, the stranding ratios twist of the conductors in each of those weaved cables and the insulation. I trust Ray Kimber and Bruce Brisson of MIT cables both guys are smarter than I and have scientific basis and testing. Not like some that just follow the golden ratio and cost as much as gold. |
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