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Post by indiehouse on Mar 2, 2022 20:06:30 GMT -6
Are you always using pop filters for vocals? What’s your recommendation?
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Post by EmRR on Mar 2, 2022 20:32:07 GMT -6
Liking the Rycote that attaches to the Rycote here…..
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Post by Guitar on Mar 2, 2022 20:38:13 GMT -6
Yes, pop filter, almost always. Doesn't really matter which one.
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Post by mike on Mar 2, 2022 20:38:15 GMT -6
Depends on the mic and voice for me , and have used none, Nylon, Stedman, Rycote and Hakan ...... my preference is Rycote first, Hakan 2nd,
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 2, 2022 20:59:41 GMT -6
Which is most transparent?
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Post by Guitar on Mar 2, 2022 21:01:44 GMT -6
I kind of like the "comforting" sound of some foam or pantyhose (whatever that's called) subtracting a tiny bit of high end, adding some warmth on the bottom. I don't worry about it at all.
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Post by brenta on Mar 2, 2022 21:26:48 GMT -6
Stedman is the most transparent I’ve used. I tried some stedman knockoffs, I think they were golden age, and the goose necks sagged. Trying to save money backfired on me for that one.
With some vocalists I don’t use any pop filters. Occasionally I get someone who needs two pop filters lol.
Bob Ohlsson hangs out here sometimes, I know he is generally anti-pop filter.
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Post by tkaitkai on Mar 2, 2022 21:35:55 GMT -6
I use a Stedman, but have been really itching to try a Hakan. I've done tests with and without the Stedman, and I couldn't really hear a meaningful tonal difference, but that might change now that I have better front end.
Either way, I like the idea of the Hakan blocking spit from hitting the mic capsule whilst also being acoustically transparent.
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Post by svart on Mar 2, 2022 22:34:24 GMT -6
I use the cheap metal mesh ones. They're easy to clean and they don't muffle the sound as much as the cloth ones.
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Post by superwack on Mar 2, 2022 23:10:53 GMT -6
I kind of like the "comforting" sound of some foam or pantyhose (whatever that's called) subtracting a tiny bit of high end, adding some warmth on the bottom. I don't worry about it at all. I googled it, the pantyhose that add warmth to the bottom are called Thermal Leggings |
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Post by recordingengineer on Mar 3, 2022 0:50:20 GMT -6
Well the past few years I’ve been extremely annoyed by pops. With no EQ or filter on many preamps, I find it stupid to have to run through an outboard EQ or plugin for every single vocal track while tracking. 8 pop filters at the studio and none of them doing their one and only job; stopping pops!
I’ve been threatening myself for years to try the Blast Pad! I finally caved and it came in just a couple weeks ago, along with a Triad-Orbit spring clamp, a couple of their rubber-coated goosenecks, and their M3 adapter. Over $500 in a pop filter system!!! Yes I’m crazy!!!
We’ll see how I like it on Sunday during an all-day vocal session with a punk band. Would have used it today for a piano and vocal session today, but forgot to bring it to the studio.
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Post by svart on Mar 3, 2022 8:21:08 GMT -6
Well the past few years I’ve been extremely annoyed by pops. With no EQ or filter on many preamps, I find it stupid to have to run through an outboard EQ or plugin for every single vocal track while tracking. 8 pop filters at the studio and none of them doing their one and only job; stopping pops! I’ve been threatening myself for years to try the Blast Pad! I finally caved and it came in just a couple weeks ago, along with a Triad-Orbit spring clamp, a couple of their rubber-coated goosenecks, and their M3 adapter. Over $500 in a pop filter system!!! Yes I’m crazy!!! We’ll see how I like it on Sunday during an all-day vocal session with a punk band. Would have used it today for a piano and vocal session today, but forgot to bring it to the studio. It's just a metal mesh pop filter.. Try something like these first.. www.ebay.com/itm/144412655579?hash=item219faa3fdb:g:oaAAAOSwJ1piCVc1www.ebay.com/itm/400608421969?epid=1121874235&hash=item5d461f6851:g:xSoAAOSwjVVVjJve |
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Post by the other mark williams on Mar 3, 2022 8:28:14 GMT -6
Well the past few years I’ve been extremely annoyed by pops. With no EQ or filter on many preamps, I find it stupid to have to run through an outboard EQ or plugin for every single vocal track while tracking. 8 pop filters at the studio and none of them doing their one and only job; stopping pops! I’ve been threatening myself for years to try the Blast Pad! I finally caved and it came in just a couple weeks ago, along with a Triad-Orbit spring clamp, a couple of their rubber-coated goosenecks, and their M3 adapter. Over $500 in a pop filter system!!! Yes I’m crazy!!! We’ll see how I like it on Sunday during an all-day vocal session with a punk band. Would have used it today for a piano and vocal session today, but forgot to bring it to the studio. It's just a metal mesh pop filter.. Try something like these first.. www.ebay.com/itm/144412655579?hash=item219faa3fdb:g:oaAAAOSwJ1piCVc1www.ebay.com/itm/400608421969?epid=1121874235&hash=item5d461f6851:g:xSoAAOSwjVVVjJveThat first one says it's made with "space metal materials." Damn, I bet that thing is out of this world. (with apologies to chessparov) |
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Post by svart on Mar 3, 2022 8:30:59 GMT -6
That first one says it's made with "space metal materials." Damn, I bet that thing is out of this world. (with apologies to chessparov ) LOL, yeah I never look at marketing drivel. It's just a cheap metal pop filter. They're easy to clean, don't muffle the voice as much and they're cheap enough to throw out and replace if needed. Mine is more like the second one. During the era of covid it's easy enough to unscrew the head and put it in the dishwasher with the dishes and wash it. Try that with the pantyhose-type version and you're not going to be too happy. |
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 3, 2022 9:33:03 GMT -6
I'm wondering if I could just buy the Hakan replacement filter and pop it into one of my old nylon pop filter gooseneck rings?
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Post by mcirish on Mar 3, 2022 9:43:01 GMT -6
I went on a hunt for the perfect pop filter years ago. One thing I can away with. The metal ones are very much not to my liking. If a singer has too much air blown into them, they whistle, which sounds like an increased sibilance. I have a couple of the Stedman filters. I never ever use them anymore. very few things I hate in the studio but metal pop filters us at the top.
I also fell for the Pauly filter. paid a fortune years ago for it. I don't really think it works any better than the cheap Popper Stopper filter I have.
I always use a pop filter as I don't want any spit on expensive LDC mic capsules. I prepfer a simple doual layer nylon type to anything else.
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Post by nick8801 on Mar 3, 2022 9:52:39 GMT -6
Anyone here use the pencil with a rubber band trick? I have a bunch of pop filters (stedman, hakkan, some double nylon thing), but I was listening to old recordings the other day, and I kinda dig the pencil on the mic the best lol.
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Post by teejay on Mar 3, 2022 10:18:34 GMT -6
I’ve tried metal, nylon, Hakan. If I want to dampen some highs it’s the nylon. But Hakan is my preference the majority of the time.
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Post by svart on Mar 3, 2022 10:25:46 GMT -6
I went on a hunt for the perfect pop filter years ago. One thing I can away with. The metal ones are very much not to my liking. If a singer has too much air blown into them, they whistle, which sounds like an increased sibilance. I have a couple of the Stedman filters. I never ever use them anymore. very few things I hate in the studio but metal pop filters us at the top. I also fell for the Pauly filter. paid a fortune years ago for it. I don't really think it works any better than the cheap Popper Stopper filter I have. I always use a pop filter as I don't want any spit on expensive LDC mic capsules. I prepfer a simple doual layer nylon type to anything else. But the metal mesh on the mic doesn't whistle? |
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Post by mcirish on Mar 3, 2022 10:31:32 GMT -6
I went on a hunt for the perfect pop filter years ago. One thing I can away with. The metal ones are very much not to my liking. If a singer has too much air blown into them, they whistle, which sounds like an increased sibilance. I have a couple of the Stedman filters. I never ever use them anymore. very few things I hate in the studio but metal pop filters us at the top. I also fell for the Pauly filter. paid a fortune years ago for it. I don't really think it works any better than the cheap Popper Stopper filter I have. I always use a pop filter as I don't want any spit on expensive LDC mic capsules. I prepfer a simple doual layer nylon type to anything else. But the metal mesh on the mic doesn't whistle? Nope. Maybe it was a particular singer, but when using the Stedman, there was an extra high frequency thing happening. Swapped the pop filters and it was fine. This could have been an isolated incident but I won't use them anymore. You might have different results. In my case, I did find the nylon type pop filter to roll off the extreme high end a bit. I could get back that air with a little EQ. I was not able to EQ out the weird thing happening with the Stedman. I tried to make it work, since I had bought two of them, but they just didn't sound right to me. |
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Post by svart on Mar 3, 2022 10:34:07 GMT -6
But the metal mesh on the mic doesn't whistle? Nope. Maybe it was a particular singer, but when using the Stedman, there was an extra high frequency thing happening. Swapped the pop filters and it was fine. This could have been an isolated incident but I won't use them anymore. You might have different results. In my case, I did find the nylon type pop filter to roll off the extreme high end a bit. I could get back that air with a little EQ. I was not able to EQ out the weird thing happening with the Stedman. I tried to make it work, since I had bought two of them, but they just didn't sound right to me. Weird. Dozens of singers have been through my metal pop stopper and never once heard any strange stuff. |
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Post by christophert on Mar 3, 2022 11:18:54 GMT -6
I Use a Rycote, or a Popless which are not made anymore.
The trick is to keep any pop filter 6 inches or more away from the mic.
This will help with plosives, and angling the mic (capsule) slightly if you have a singer with big P's.
Every singer is different, and if you have a problem with plosives, and have the time, get them to sing into both of your hands, and determine where the P's push the air. Some push the plosives upwards, others straight, some downwards. Then angle the mic to avoid the bursts of air.
I have avoided the metal ones, too many stories of whistling or ringing - although I have heard of some people clamping a rubber mute to the edge of the screen to stop it ringing.
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 3, 2022 11:21:34 GMT -6
Nope. Maybe it was a particular singer, but when using the Stedman, there was an extra high frequency thing happening. Swapped the pop filters and it was fine. This could have been an isolated incident but I won't use them anymore. You might have different results. In my case, I did find the nylon type pop filter to roll off the extreme high end a bit. I could get back that air with a little EQ. I was not able to EQ out the weird thing happening with the Stedman. I tried to make it work, since I had bought two of them, but they just didn't sound right to me. Weird. Dozens of singers have been through my metal pop stopper and never once heard any strange stuff. Ha. I was searching the threads for pop filters... Time and Time again I've tried metal grilled pop filters.. They always make a harsh PHHH should when you actually hard P into them, which cloth does not. |
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 3, 2022 11:24:25 GMT -6
I'm wondering if I could just buy the Hakan replacement filter and pop it into one of my old nylon pop filter gooseneck rings? Does anyone know the diameter of the Hakan? I don't need another crap gooseneck. If I can just pop that $30 filter into something I already have, I'd be good. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 3, 2022 11:50:45 GMT -6
The Hakan has been great
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