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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 19, 2014 19:40:29 GMT -6
This pre and eq to me is just the best there is. It is so expensive though. Is there anything out there trying to copy this design? And if not, why the hell not?? It simply smokes a 1073 IMO on just about everything. Maybe I'm missing something but you don't hear much about the 1081's. Is it that are just so cost prohibitive that few have used them?
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AMS 1081
May 19, 2014 21:58:46 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on May 19, 2014 21:58:46 GMT -6
Heritage makes a 1081
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Post by tonycamphd on May 19, 2014 22:59:54 GMT -6
I hear via dandeurloo the Bluzzi EZ1084 is THE shiz, it's eq only though, of course they're DIY, i'm gonna build a pair this summer.
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Post by svart on May 20, 2014 7:50:03 GMT -6
Maybe this would be a better place to mention it rather than the other thread..
1081 is Class A/B and the EQ is buffered on each section. The 1084/1073 and pretty much all the other 10xx series are Class A throughout and most only have 2 buffers in the EQ.
So the 1084 is nothing like the 1081 even though the numbers are similar.
The reason nobody clones the 1081 is that it's much more complicated and more of the parts are rare and hard to get, and it doesn't prescribe to the classic "Neve Class A" sound that everybody dies for.
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AMS 1081
May 20, 2014 9:13:24 GMT -6
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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 20, 2014 9:13:24 GMT -6
I don't think many have actually used a 1081 because it really is to die for. It's one of those things that top tier guys employ in their work. I see them a lot in very high end studios. But those are not the type guys who waste much time chiming in on audio forums so they get no hype. There is a lot of lore attached to the 1073. It's the name everybody knows.
That last track that Wiz posted over in the working on section has a vocal sound much the same as the 1081 provides. That's what got me thinking on these again. It's like the 1081 puts a halo on a signal.
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Post by tonycamphd on May 20, 2014 10:17:22 GMT -6
I don't think many have actually used a 1081 because it really is to die for. It's one of those things that top tier guys employ in their work. I see them a lot in very high end studios. But those are not the type guys who waste much time chiming in on audio forums so they get no hype. There is a lot of lore attached to the 1073. It's the name everybody knows. That last track that Wiz posted over in the working on section has a vocal sound much the same as the 1081 provides. That's what got me thinking on these again. It's like the 1081 puts a halo on a signal. did wiz use a 1081? i know the mic is his U87, why don't you get whatever combo he used? it seems like it would be way more affordable no?
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Post by wiz on May 20, 2014 16:37:47 GMT -6
I don't think many have actually used a 1081 because it really is to die for. It's one of those things that top tier guys employ in their work. I see them a lot in very high end studios. But those are not the type guys who waste much time chiming in on audio forums so they get no hype. There is a lot of lore attached to the 1073. It's the name everybody knows. That last track that Wiz posted over in the working on section has a vocal sound much the same as the 1081 provides. That's what got me thinking on these again. It's like the 1081 puts a halo on a signal. did wiz use a 1081? i know the mic is his U87, why don't you get whatever combo he used? it seems like it would be way more affordable no? I haven't used a 1081, but, I have long coveted one! I can't tell you how big a smile on my face to read that post.... 8) The vocal path for that vocal was U87 P48 (its a corker, susceptible to pops, and will fail the moisture test, but with a pop screen, on my voice, hands down the best mic I have sung through, since I sang through a really good U47, and this might just suit me better) into a BAE 1073 DMP, then WARM 76 into DRIP LA2A. Personally, I think its mostly the U87. I just sold my Beesneez T1. MY U87 killed it.... on me. I have often wondered what a real 1073 would do on it compared to the BAE DMP. cheers Wiz
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AMS 1081
May 20, 2014 17:27:09 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on May 20, 2014 17:27:09 GMT -6
The BAE is darker IMO. But really, you're not missing much. Unless you're talking vintage. I swear the iron or whatever in the vintage ones maybe make a difference. I thought the heritage's were the closest to the vintage I've used.
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Post by wiz on May 20, 2014 17:41:21 GMT -6
The BAE is darker IMO. But really, you're not missing much. Unless you're talking vintage. I swear the iron or whatever in the vintage ones maybe make a difference. I thought the heritage's were the closest to the vintage I've used. But, they don't seem to be interested in paying for adspace, so maybe I'll stop telling the truth I have read (and thats always not a definitive source 8) ) that the EQ in the path of a 73, has an impact even when not boosted or cut. But as with all things, A don't know if its true and B don't know if it matters a tinkers cuss. I have two other NEVE style preamps here, they all sound different. Over time, I have just found which ones suit which mics and sources best, for me. Has taken me a really long time to do that though. Once you get up to a certain level, its all different flavours, but all the flavours taste great. cheers Wiz
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