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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 17, 2022 12:09:26 GMT -6
I know Mac users who flip their Mac stuff almost whenever a new version is available. Their logic, maximum resale value, high running time supported and under warranty. Wouldn’t be surprised if their actual annual costs is lower than buying and holding.
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Post by jacobamerritt on Mar 17, 2022 12:21:04 GMT -6
I just don't understand you Mac guys. You guys are always upgrading every 2ish years. Why? I typically run my recording PCs for 6-8 years depending on if I'm changing my workflow. I dont think this is true. I had my previous Mac for like 7 years. Apple has been introducing some amazing new chips and devices at really awesome price points, so Mac users are motivated to make the upgrade. I think it gives the impression folks are upgrading more frequently than they normally actually are. |
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Post by Quint on Mar 17, 2022 12:25:19 GMT -6
I've always been a PC guy but, I really want to use Luna (Mac only) and these new M1 CPUs do seem to really be pretty great, so I just took the plunge into the dark side and ordered a Mac Studio. The timing was right and these new base model Mac Studios seem to hit a pretty good performance to price ratio, at least for my needs. We'll see how it goes...
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Post by dok on Mar 17, 2022 13:46:32 GMT -6
I'm a sysadmin for a design firm, all Apple machines. Our lifecycle for our machines is around 60 months for laptops and 72-84 for desktops, or 5 and 7 years, respectively. Basically until thermal issues finally overtake the laptops and the desktops can no longer run the latest OS with security updates - honestly a bit longer than I'd prefer, but they are up to the task. Essentially the only hardware issues we encounter are bad batteries and worn out HDDs, both of which we anticipate to occur another order of magnitude less with the M1 models and solid state storage. From a maintenance, management, and financial and administrative overhead perspective, there's just no comparison with any PCs considering the daily workloads these machines are tasked with. The M1 performance increases are significant enough that we're now in the process of replacing our entire fleet of iMacs with M1s, and in many cases the base M1 13" Pro is more than adequate from a processing perspective to replace an iMac from 2017 or earlier, even with the RAM discrepancy (64 vs 16 GB), due to all of the bandwidth and performance improvement of the m1 unified SoC.
I've been working in IT for a long time and I just am not aware of similarly spec'd PCs having the same longevity and low overhead in an enterprise situation. Granted, I'm just one guy, but Apple workstations have long been far more than a fashion accessary or had actually necessary yearly upgrades when they are adequately configured at the point of purchase.
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Post by mike on Mar 17, 2022 14:39:00 GMT -6
Still using my 10 year old 2012 MBP and debating between buying a mini or mac studio sometime this year as 10 years is about the norm for me also.
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Post by Ward on Mar 17, 2022 16:18:38 GMT -6
I just don't understand you Mac guys. You guys are always upgrading every 2ish years. Why? I typically run my recording PCs for 6-8 years depending on if I'm changing my workflow. NoT for me. 2010 Macbook, 2012 Mac Pro towers, and a 2014 iMac for personal use alongside the studio set-up. The Mac Pro is getting long in the tooth now, so I know I'm going to need a replacement after at least 500 projects on it, maybe a lot more. |
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Post by RealNoob on Mar 17, 2022 16:24:10 GMT -6
I had a 2012 until I began to edit 4K video. This 2019 I have is fine for everything but video and mixing once again as plugins and software are requiring more resources to run. The latter is the bigger culprit to me these days.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 17, 2022 18:12:40 GMT -6
I was running my 2012 mbp i7 fine, although it can’t run past Catalina.
Then bumped into a great deal in a used m1 mini, half price with apple care plus so bought it.
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Post by Chad on Mar 17, 2022 18:38:09 GMT -6
I just don't understand you Mac guys. You guys are always upgrading every 2ish years. Why? I typically run my recording PCs for 6-8 years depending on if I'm changing my workflow. I upgrade every 10 years with my Mac. Since around early 2000's, I buy a used/refurbished Mac that is between 1 and 2 years old, and I keep it running for about 6 years. My most recent (a 2014 27" iMac w/ 32GB of memory) is just now being replaced for music after 7 years of use, BUT... I'm still putting it in the corner and using it for business (administrative stuff, graphic design). I've been a mac guy since college days in the 90's. Can't help it. I'm hooked. I think they lace these things with something. ;-) |
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Post by ericn on Mar 17, 2022 20:28:56 GMT -6
I upgrade every 10 years with my Mac. Since around early 2000's, I buy a used/refurbished Mac that is between 1 and 2 years old, and I keep it running for about 6 years. My most recent (a 2014 27" iMac w/ 32GB of memory) is just now being replaced for music after 7 years of use, BUT... I'm still putting it in the corner and using it for business (administrative stuff, graphic design). I've been a mac guy since college days in the 90's. Can't help it. I'm hooked. I think they lace these things with something. ;-) Nah as a Mac owner since 89, you have it backwards we are supporting someone else’s habit big time😁 |
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Post by Chad on Mar 17, 2022 20:30:32 GMT -6
Since around early 2000's, I buy a used/refurbished Mac that is between 1 and 2 years old, and I keep it running for about 6 years. My most recent (a 2014 27" iMac w/ 32GB of memory) is just now being replaced for music after 7 years of use, BUT... I'm still putting it in the corner and using it for business (administrative stuff, graphic design). I've been a mac guy since college days in the 90's. Can't help it. I'm hooked. I think they lace these things with something. ;-) Nah as a Mac owner since 89, you have it backwards we are supporting someone else’s habit big time😁 I think you're correct, Eric!  |
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Post by reddirt on Mar 18, 2022 1:34:37 GMT -6
Yes Eric compatibility does become an issue - I'm on a 2010 17" MBP laptop still running seriously reliable Snow Leopard but I cant run heaps of current plugs etc, etc so it's now time but I've certainly had my moneys worth and thus I'll buy another Mac . perhaps 16 Gig mini or 32 gig Studio or 16" 32 gig M1 pro . - decisions, decisions.
Cheers, Ross
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 18, 2022 4:42:14 GMT -6
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Post by johneppstein on Mar 20, 2022 14:28:33 GMT -6
Because as I mentioned before, there are exactly 2 PC specific threads, neither active, both have multitudes of "dude, just buy a mac" replies.. Mac threads number in the hundreds here and are added to daily. And I was just wondering because I can't imagine spending thousands every other year for a new computer and I was wondering why it seemed so ubiquitous to do so with macs. “What? There aren’t very many Fender threads? Well I guess I’ll just have to keep going into the Gibson threads to make sure those guys know I still don’t like Gibsons” 🙂 I like both Fenders and Gibsons. Al least they can use the same kinds of strings! |
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