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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 29, 2021 18:56:47 GMT -6
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Post by matt@IAA on Dec 29, 2021 19:16:10 GMT -6
My guess - Q2 is A, 1073 is B, T69 is C.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 29, 2021 19:49:19 GMT -6
Nobody else? Not trying to do a "gotcha" - just figured people would want to hear without knowing which is which.
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Post by Ward on Dec 29, 2021 19:57:54 GMT -6
Nobody else? Not trying to do a "gotcha" - just figured people would want to hear without knowing which is which. Hang on, been tracking a post-grunge band for the past 6 hours . . . my ears should be in GREAT shape now. Thanks to Jesse @jcoutu for offering to finance a RND 5088 for me. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 29, 2021 20:06:46 GMT -6
Still busy doing Christmas things: hold your horses !
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Post by Ward on Dec 29, 2021 20:07:19 GMT -6
awful difficult without knowing the microphone! But here goes nothing . . .
A. Stam 1073 (no smear, no real Helios sound)
B. Q2 (not clean enough to be Josh's work)
C. SA-T69 (Knocks it out of the park in comparison to the other two)
I'd prefer the acoustic guitar just with an HPF at 100hz and nothing else done to it. Sounds good though! What's the mic choice?
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 29, 2021 20:12:58 GMT -6
Vocals were all Heiserman 47 and AG was Soyuz 013
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 29, 2021 20:13:35 GMT -6
Btw - my preference in order was B, A and Then C
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Post by timcampbell on Dec 29, 2021 20:24:06 GMT -6
Just listening on my little wireless speakers I liked C best and the pre sounds great on accoustic.
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Post by christopher on Dec 29, 2021 20:55:32 GMT -6
first impressions: all sound great and will work great.
A has a robust dynamic range and cuts through, almost a cinematic quality? I got some vintage era country vibes, I like it.
B perfect take well controlled ready to bring up the fader
C again perfect take, like a stem of a finished vocal
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Post by wiz on Dec 29, 2021 21:26:49 GMT -6
Well, they all sound killer, but that's you not the mic or the preamp.... or the converters for that matter...
A is the 73 (the low end bloom is what made me think that)
the other two I don't know....
But my favourite listening to the vocal solo is B... but that could change in a mix...
wouldn't kick any of the three out of bed if they farted....
cheers
Wiz
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 29, 2021 21:32:43 GMT -6
Ok. You ready?
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Post by timcampbell on Dec 29, 2021 21:46:21 GMT -6
I'm sitting down  |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 29, 2021 22:08:30 GMT -6
A - Stam 1073 B - Stam SA-T69 C - H2 Audio 2128 500 B was my favorite. Open. Less upper mids. Top handled sibilance extremely well. A is more forward in the upper mids. Big bottom. I usually dip a little at 3.2khz. Really not sure I’d make any eq changes on the 69. C sounds small and pointy to me. Not trying to razz H2, but the 500 was a miss for me. roundbadge sent a file of his 0011 and it sounded awesome. But there was a reason I returned it. Just as an aside, I remember having to tame 1khz on the Tony Arnold 500 reissues…and I didn’t have the H2 EQ. Still playing with the SA69 eq. The 10khz shelf seems to be nice and sweet, but I really didn’t do much twisting. I love the mid bands on Helios so I’ll know more as I play with it. As memory serves, this unit seems to drive similarly to the H2. Doesn’t get that one-click-too-far-disaster-distortion that I heard on the reissues…or even the UAD plug will do that. I assumed the H2 had a pleasant drivable distortion because of the addition of an Output transformer. Didn’t think the Stam had one - thought it was an Inductor…but not sure. Red bulb. Wish it had the blue one like the picture…but no biggie. |
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Post by matt@IAA on Dec 29, 2021 23:39:00 GMT -6
Haha 0/3! Beat that!
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Post by reddirt on Dec 30, 2021 1:04:13 GMT -6
Easy for me to chime in now all is revealed ....... my take is B is the happy medium with an overall smoothness without peaks; A is 2nd fave and sounds good but has that bottom end bloom thing going on and C sounds a little thin relatively.
The mic seems to be pretty cool but your voice is very smooth so hard to really know.
Cheers, Ross
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Post by christopher on Dec 30, 2021 17:23:30 GMT -6
Listening again, and I agree B came out great, natural, nice character that highlights your voice. On first listen I thought C was right there too but now I notice a tiny weird thing in the mids, and I would be trying to use EQ to fix it, and who knows if the fix would live up to where B is.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 30, 2021 19:02:49 GMT -6
Listening again, and I agree B came out great, natural, nice character that highlights your voice. On first listen I thought C was right there too but now I notice a tiny weird thing in the mids, and I would be trying to use EQ to fix it, and who knows if the fix would live up to where B is. It’s One of those weird zing things that you just can’t dial out. |
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Post by stam on Jan 1, 2022 10:16:09 GMT -6
Hi John,
Thank you for posting these samples. I am very happy that you are pleased with this take on the classic Helios T69. I might consider making more of them in the near future and possibly adding a few things to it or more options.
I'll send you some prototypes in the coming months to see if we can improve on it a little further
Happy new year!
J
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 1, 2022 10:25:28 GMT -6
Ah, Josh , do you know, I just legally changed my name to John ? Happy new year ! |
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Post by roundbadge on Jan 2, 2022 1:31:27 GMT -6
B all the way
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Post by sirthought on Jan 2, 2022 7:44:36 GMT -6
I didn't hear enough of a difference with the vocals to care about one over another, at least not without hearing it work in the mix. All were very close to me, but I guess C had somewhat more harmonic distortion or edginess.
The acoustic with EQ sounded fantastic.
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Post by plinker on Jan 2, 2022 13:26:09 GMT -6
A and C bring out a touch of the throat rasp, and A definitely has the low-end bloom.
B would probably need EQ in the mix -- probably more versatile overall, especially with the onboard EQ. B could probably come damn close to A/C via EQ. Fun! Thanks!!! |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 2, 2022 13:27:57 GMT -6
A and C bring out a touch of the throat rasp, and A definitely has the low-end bloom.
B would probably need EQ in the mix -- probably more versatile overall, especially with the onboard EQ. B could probably come damn close to A/C via EQ. Fun! Thanks!!! Well, they were all different takes…so there’s s that. |
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Post by plinker on Jan 2, 2022 13:29:58 GMT -6
Aha! Then phuque-it! All are great!
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