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Post by thehightenor on Dec 26, 2021 10:23:16 GMT -6
Has anyone used Shellac as a finish?
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Post by svart on Dec 27, 2021 10:01:14 GMT -6
It doesn't get quite as hard as some lacquers. Apparently fresh mixed shellac can be as hard as nitro lacquer though. Lots of folks clear coat over it for a harder finish. Guess it depends on your guitar and application.
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Post by thehightenor on Dec 27, 2021 10:20:27 GMT -6
It doesn't get quite as hard as some lacquers. Apparently fresh mixed shellac can be as hard as nitro lacquer though. Lots of folks clear coat over it for a harder finish. Guess it depends on your guitar and application. Well I've stripped back the sound boards of two old acoustics I very much enjoy playing live and I've fixed up some dents and deep scratches sanded them back finished with 3000 grit and they're ready for a top coat finish. I've not done this before! Spraying is out of the question. I looked into wipe on Poly Lacquerer but got a bit put off as the instructions says it's a very toxic product. That's when I checked YouTube and saw Shellac (French polishing) is a popular finish coat. I've seen nitro finish is available in a can so I could spray that outside to make it safer to use.
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Post by jmoose on Dec 30, 2021 23:00:16 GMT -6
Look into brichwood casey tru oil. It's a hard laquer finish, rubs on easy & also very forgiving to work with. Ernie Ball music man uses it for necks.
Shellac & boiled linseed... things like that, varnish are soft finishes & need to be reapplied every few years.
Nitro rattle cans are IMO kind of a crapshoot. Nitro depends on how good your prep work was & also allowing it to really sit in a proper environment between coats. Practice on scrap first!
Tru Oil is my favorite DIY finish. I've tried a bunch & keep going back.
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Post by Ward on Jan 3, 2022 14:55:46 GMT -6
Look into brichwood casey tru oil. It's a hard laquer finish, rubs on easy & also very forgiving to work with. Ernie Ball music man uses it for necks. Shellac & boiled linseed... things like that, varnish are soft finishes & need to be reapplied every few years. Nitro rattle cans are IMO kind of a crapshoot. Nitro depends on how good your prep work was & also allowing it to really sit in a proper environment between coats. Practice on scrap first! Tru Oil is my favorite DIY finish. I've tried a bunch & keep going back. great advice and I appreciate it. I'm about to refinish a couple of necks and was considering some options.
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Post by jmoose on Jan 3, 2022 23:46:30 GMT -6
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Post by Ward on Jan 4, 2022 9:53:26 GMT -6
Thanks! Appreciate the link
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Post by robschnapf on Jan 4, 2022 11:45:04 GMT -6
Damn can’t get this in California any other options?
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Post by jmoose on Jan 4, 2022 15:21:59 GMT -6
Damn can’t get this in California any other options? Ack. It does say won't ship eh? There has to be a way to smuggle it over the border... like I said Ernie Ball has been using it for decades and they're most definitely building guitars in California. Maybe try a local sporting goods or gun shop? I've gotten a bottle at places like Dicks but have better luck at indies here in NJ. Anyway. EBMM basically applies one quick coat of oil then the wax... for them its a 5 minute process but you can go as deep as ya want. I built a thinline tele somewhere around 2008? Warmoth & USACG parts... applied several coats to a swamp ash body & maple neck. I'll probably wear out the frets before the finish. The body, I skipped grain filler but would say it came out something like the old Fender highway guitars or Gibson "faded" finishes. If the body has open grain (like ash or mahogany) you'll feel it... and its not super glossy like a factory spray which is kinda what I was going for. I'll say that guitar and a bass I did for a friend? Finish is thin. Hard, chip resistant (kinda just dents) and best? The guitars are LOUD unplugged. Super resonant. For an "easy" alternative minwax wipe on poly can turn out nice. Another friend has used it for necks on a few builds. I'm not exactly sure of his process but IIRC its several coats with 600/800 wet sanding every other coat? Something like that. Super slick & high gloss. The times I've used poly? Need to be weather aware. No go when its humid. End up with fish eyes that can't be sanded out without blowing through... so at that point its either live with the defect or strip to bare wood & start over. Tru oil is way more forgiving on that front.
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Post by dinoziogas on Jan 7, 2022 13:43:25 GMT -6
Me and my brother have done a couple shellac finishes on solidwood electrics. What do you need to know?
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