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Post by EmRR on Dec 9, 2021 19:54:28 GMT -6
Unexpectedly have one to play with. Quick voice check against a UMT70S so far. Seems cool. Anyone well versed? Seemed instantly wider and more open than the Gefell, but flatter in the upper mids too. Gefell being upper mid M7 focused. Have to see what it feels like against the 414buls.
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Post by drbill on Dec 10, 2021 9:22:32 GMT -6
Had a chance to buy a well preserved pair a couple of years ago. I've never really warmed up to Sony mics over the years, but at this point, I do wish I'd purchased them. Then again, I never warmed up to B-ULS's either. LOL Let us know how they work out for you Doug!!
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Post by Ward on Dec 10, 2021 10:57:14 GMT -6
It's the TV dinner of Sony LDC mics!
Their appeal is very selective.
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Post by sean on Dec 10, 2021 11:21:48 GMT -6
I really enjoy C48’s and C37P’s. Wish I bought some before they shot up in price
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Post by nudwig on Dec 10, 2021 13:22:25 GMT -6
Anybody compare these to c38's? I'm guessing as different as 38's are to c800g's?
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Post by Ward on Dec 10, 2021 19:11:34 GMT -6
Anybody compare these to c38's? I'm guessing as different as 38's are to c800g's? Winner winner, chicken dinner. |
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Post by standup on Dec 10, 2021 21:34:15 GMT -6
I thought c48s were a lot like the c38b , and nothing like the c800.
I’m using a pair of c38b for OH and they’re working nicely there.
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Post by EmRR on Dec 10, 2021 22:24:21 GMT -6
Interesting since the 48 and 800 share the same dual diaphragm capsule, with 37/38 being a single diaphragm capsule with a mechanical shutter to make omni.
Interesting the physical 37/38 is modeled on the question “how would we translate the RCA 77 to a condenser?” The base shock mount is almost interchangeable.
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Post by robschnapf on Dec 11, 2021 12:07:16 GMT -6
I have a pair of C48s and use them all the time.
They use to be cheap sleeper mics.
That changed.
Nothing like an 800 (which I’ve never been a fan of)
More like an old 87 (which Ive always been a fan of)
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Post by bgrotto on Dec 11, 2021 13:26:01 GMT -6
I like C48s a lot. I've had good results with them on acoustic guitars, and on the floor tom side of a drum kit (in a sort of glyn johns position), or as a FOK mic. Wish they hadn't gotten so expensive; I'd own one or two if i could.
FWIW i don't much care for the 414buls, so if those mics represent a sort of 'standard reference point' for you, it's possible our tastes aren't aligned and my thoughts on the C48 are useless.
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Post by sean on Dec 11, 2021 16:19:11 GMT -6
Like Rob says C48’s are good all around microphones like a U87, one of those “maybe not the best but will always works” type of microphones which makes it very flexible. Not overly bright like a C800. C37P’s and C38B’s are pretty dark/mellow microphones and sort of remind me of U89’s. I think they are nice as close microphones on drums because they don’t pick up much cymbal bleed for a large diaphragm and have a nice “thud” if that’s what you’re going for.
But I’m not going to pay $2000+ for a C48 or a C37P which seems to be the expected price these days
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Post by tim on Dec 11, 2021 19:35:41 GMT -6
Holy sh!t, I can’t believe what these are going for now! Couple on reverb asking 3600-3800 each. I have one. wish I had bought another a few years back when they were going for 1k. It’s a versatile mic but I’ve used it mostly on electric and acoustic guitar.
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Post by EmRR on Dec 11, 2021 22:17:38 GMT -6
You’ll note the only actual ended sales you can find are $800 and $1100. Ignore the nutty asks.
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Post by aremos on Dec 11, 2021 23:13:19 GMT -6
I thought c48s were a lot like the c38b , and nothing like the c800. They use the exact capsule & very similar electronics. The C-800 was built as a "modern" C-37/38/48 & different than the C-800G. |
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Post by ericn on Dec 16, 2021 11:46:02 GMT -6
You’ll note the only actual ended sales you can find are $800 and $1100. Ignore the nutty asks. C48 was probably the most popular and consistent of the Sony FET LDC’s great mic and a pretty good compliment to the Gefell. The one thing is if there is a problem with the capsule it gets expensive really fast. I have owned 3 or 4 over the years still love them. Used Sony FET LDC prices are just strange, one month 37/38’s are a bargain then 48’s next month C500! Sony is really a sleeper but avoid ECM mics, these are electraets and will lose output over time, think of it as a very slow auto fade out. |
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Post by sean on Dec 16, 2021 14:06:21 GMT -6
You’ll note the only actual ended sales you can find are $800 and $1100. Ignore the nutty asks. Cheapest C37P I've seen in awhile was $1650, rest have sold for $2000+. Not sure about C48's. But if you want to sell one under $1000 I'm interested! |
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Post by EmRR on Dec 16, 2021 14:18:19 GMT -6
You’ll note the only actual ended sales you can find are $800 and $1100. Ignore the nutty asks. Cheapest C37P I've seen in awhile was $1650, rest have sold for $2000+. Not sure about C48's. But if you want to sell one under $1000 I'm interested! C38's are under $1K all day long, dozens available. |
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Post by sean on Dec 16, 2021 14:20:55 GMT -6
Cheapest C37P I've seen in awhile was $1650, rest have sold for $2000+. Not sure about C48's. But if you want to sell one under $1000 I'm interested! C38's are under $1K all day long, dozens available. Yes C38's are very affordable second hand. Most of them shipping from Japan (at least the ones on eBay). C48s...not so much |
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Post by ericn on Dec 16, 2021 15:11:57 GMT -6
Cheapest C37P I've seen in awhile was $1650, rest have sold for $2000+. Not sure about C48's. But if you want to sell one under $1000 I'm interested! C38's are under $1K all day long, dozens available. They seam to be these days but anytime I have asked about condition, the seller ghosts me. |
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Post by EmRR on Dec 16, 2021 15:23:39 GMT -6
C38's are under $1K all day long, dozens available. They seam to be these days but anytime I have asked about condition, the seller ghosts me. Some have free returns, to Japan! |
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Post by ericn on Dec 16, 2021 15:30:52 GMT -6
They seam to be these days but anytime I have asked about condition, the seller ghosts me. Some have free returns, to Japan! Some day over drinks we shall discuss my purchases from Japan with “free returns”. let’s just say it didn’t cost the sellers anything. |
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Post by EmRR on Dec 16, 2021 15:35:56 GMT -6
I've heard as well Japanese custom is no debt is owed after someone is deceased....including their company that still lives on!
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Post by robschnapf on Dec 18, 2021 15:05:31 GMT -6
I used to tell people about C48s when they $650 and nobody seemed to care.
Then they were $800 and then they just escalated really quickly.
I wouldn’t buy one for $2000.
That seems crazy.
I’d get a bunch Heiserman type19s instead.
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Post by ericn on Dec 18, 2021 15:56:29 GMT -6
I used to tell people about C48s when they $650 and nobody seemed to care. Then they were $800 and then they just escalated really quickly. I wouldn’t buy one for $2000. That seems crazy. I’d get a bunch Heiserman type19s instead. So it’s all your fault Rob😜 I was afraid it was mine. Seriously though imagine if Sony ever got it’s act together in pro audio, instead we get the push by broadcast every couple of years, then they disappear. Maybe I just need to make a road trip up to Madison stop at WISC and hug the OXFORD. |
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Post by EmRR on Dec 18, 2021 17:14:14 GMT -6
The Sony Japan site translation to yen converted to dollars is new for under $1600.
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