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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 15, 2021 3:20:48 GMT -6
In case you don’t know, after 3-4 authorizations or if you don’t deactivate authorizations before you sell a computer or it dies, you will not be able to deactivate or reassign the authorization and will see a pop up about this in your ilok manager.
I experienced this yesterday with my new mini: drag.
Good news is that Ilok has an evergreening process, between you, it and the plug in manufacturer to free these marooned authorizations so you can reassign them.
Here is the first email with directions you would get from ilok to initiate the process:
“ Dear Matthew Blue,
We have been notified by a software publisher that you are no longer able to access one or more software license activations on your computer. Please read this email carefully so that you understand what needs to happen for your activations to be reset.
IMPORTANT: If the computer is still recognized when you sign in with iLok License Manager, the licenses listed below will automatically be deactivated and made available in your account for activation. No approval from the software publishers will be necessary.
Here's how the reset process works:
The license activations on the computer have been set so that they will be deactivated if this computer is seen by our services.
The software publishers have been notified that you can no longer access the computer and are requesting a reset.
The software publishers can approve your reset request, making the activation(s) on the inaccessible computer no longer count against the number of allowed license activations. As long as the license is still valid, you could then activate the license to a different location.
Here's what you need to do:
Keep tabs on the progress of your request by looking at the details for the computer in iLok License Manager. You'll know that the software publisher has approved your request if the license no longer appears on the computer.
Once a reset is approved, you will be notified via email so that you can activate the license(s) to another location.
You may need to contact the software publishers and ask them to approve your reset request”
Then you start getting email reset requests from the plug in manufacturers that you had contacted based on the notification you would have seen in your ilok manager.
Here is the text I got from softube:
“ Softube AB has approved an activation reset request for you. Please see the details below.
Note from Softube AB (if provided):
IMPORTANT: If your reset request involved more than one software publisher, each publisher will need to provide an approval prior to their licenses becoming available for activation. You can see the status of your request by looking at the license details for the computer in iLok License Manager.”
So, this morning I have about 9 emails from plug in manufacturers notifying me that I can reassign my activations.
Pretty good progress in a day.
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Post by svart on Nov 15, 2021 7:56:09 GMT -6
I just removed the Ilok dongle and put it in the new computer.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 15, 2021 8:06:02 GMT -6
I understand.
A few year’s ago, I started saving my authorizations to my computer so I didn’t have to use the dongle. Seemed like a good idea at the time.
Now, l am reactivating to the dongle so I can just move it between computers: like you !
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 15, 2021 8:06:55 GMT -6
Oy, that sounds like a major PITA. I hope to upgrade to a Mac Mini when the next generation comes out, but I sure don't feel like chasing down dozens of manufacturers to get activation codes.
You would think a general reset button would have been developed specifically for activating a new computer and deactivating the old one without needing special permissions.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 15, 2021 8:50:33 GMT -6
Yes, but as svart points out just leave your authorizations on the ilok USB dongle as you can just move that between computers easily.
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Post by mcirish on Nov 15, 2021 9:21:28 GMT -6
On a completely side note - I have an iLok and a dual boot computer. Because it is a dual boot, iLok keeps thinking I'm trying to use it on two computers at the same time. I can't simply do a reboot. I have to shut down and remove power before it will release the iLok so I can work. Not a very "smart" system. I don't mind having to use dongles. I just wish their software would detect hardware better. It's pretty frustrating.
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Post by svart on Nov 15, 2021 9:37:06 GMT -6
On a completely side note - I have an iLok and a dual boot computer. Because it is a dual boot, iLok keeps thinking I'm trying to use it on two computers at the same time. I can't simply do a reboot. I have to shut down and remove power before it will release the iLok so I can work. Not a very "smart" system. I don't mind having to use dongles. I just wish their software would detect hardware better. It's pretty frustrating. They're probably afraid of someone trying to use a single set of licenses on a network of machines. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2021 19:16:46 GMT -6
On a completely side note - I have an iLok and a dual boot computer. Because it is a dual boot, iLok keeps thinking I'm trying to use it on two computers at the same time. I can't simply do a reboot. I have to shut down and remove power before it will release the iLok so I can work. Not a very "smart" system. I don't mind having to use dongles. I just wish their software would detect hardware better. It's pretty frustrating. They're probably afraid of someone trying to use a single set of licenses on a network of machines. The only high end plugs that use the full ilok dynamic encryption are reverbs. Zero envelope pushing plugs use it. If anyone thinks developers pushing the envelope like U-he, Tokyo Dawn, and Goodhertz would touch it with a ten foot pole, hell no. Current ilok plugs bloat the executable for no reason other than to treat you like a criminal. I still use PSP plugs because they’re fairy efficient and sound great but compare Kush, Pulsar, or Slate to someone like Klanghelm and it’s a fucking joke. 100 Euros for the whole Klanghelm suite and 200 for the Tokyo Dawn show these developers are smoking fucking crack. You wouldn’t even be able to make the U-he, Tokyo Dawn, and Chow DSP plugs with an ilok because it would eat into the single core performance they devour. The best plugs are simply not heavily copy protected. Look at the Weiss plugs. Gui and copy protection makes 20 year old dsp heavy on modern CPUs. Get out your daw’s analyzer and compare them to Kotelnikov on insane. There’s no reason the DS-1 should be heavier than Presswerk or Pro C 2 but it is. I should add that the cracked U-he plugs and TDR GE editions are unusable without paying. *looks at almost every ilok plug* |
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Post by viciousbliss on Nov 17, 2021 10:41:16 GMT -6
They're probably afraid of someone trying to use a single set of licenses on a network of machines. The only high end plugs that use the full ilok dynamic encryption are reverbs. Zero envelope pushing plugs use it. If anyone thinks developers pushing the envelope like U-he, Tokyo Dawn, and Goodhertz would touch it with a ten foot pole, hell no. Current ilok plugs bloat the executable for no reason other than to treat you like a criminal. I still use PSP plugs because they’re fairy efficient and sound great but compare Kush, Pulsar, or Slate to someone like Klanghelm and it’s a fucking joke. 100 Euros for the whole Klanghelm suite and 200 for the Tokyo Dawn show these developers are smoking fucking crack. You wouldn’t even be able to make the U-he, Tokyo Dawn, and Chow DSP plugs with an ilok because it would eat into the single core performance they devour. The best plugs are simply not heavily copy protected. Look at the Weiss plugs. Gui and copy protection makes 20 year old dsp heavy on modern CPUs. Get out your daw’s analyzer and compare them to Kotelnikov on insane. There’s no reason the DS-1 should be heavier than Presswerk or Pro C 2 but it is. I should add that the cracked U-he plugs and TDR GE editions are unusable without paying. *looks at almost every ilok plug* It might be the GUI more than the Ilok pushing up cpu usage. Sad that the cracked Ilok plugins allegedly work better than the official ones. I've read the details on some where they talk about serious problems that can be caused by the protection. Some of the cracks don't work on Windows and none work on Mac. There should really be a better protection solution than to keep adding more complex code and bloat. It's sad that we can invest thousands in this stuff and then the Ilok has a problem one day and we have to go grab some cracked version just to keep operating. Would be good if after purchasing, the Ilok was smart enough to disable all this interfering code while you're working. The idea of protection doesn't bother me since it creates a barrier to entry. Lots of fake "producers" out there that just download the latest cracks and talk a good game. Before I got into this, I really had no idea how complicated this all is and how important it is to hire someone with the right equipment and experience. |
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Post by enlav on Nov 17, 2021 13:18:39 GMT -6
Lots of fake "producers" out there that just download the latest cracks and talk a good game. "Are you telling me you don't have ALL the waves plugins? Marty at his home studio has the ENTIRE CATALOGUE, and let me tell you what; I never sounded so good as I did with Butch Vig Vocals. Maybe we'll do overdubs and mixing there." |
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 17, 2021 13:21:57 GMT -6
how did my sweet little thread get addicted to crack: runnin with the wrong crowd!  |
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Post by Ward on Nov 17, 2021 15:38:52 GMT -6
I think I've been vague about this in the past . ..
I. Effing. Hate. iLok.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 17, 2021 15:47:35 GMT -6
Ok, but svart was right, if I had just kept my authorizations in the ilok dongle, I could have just moved it from old to new computer and just install ilok manager on the new computer: done!
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Post by viciousbliss on Nov 17, 2021 16:47:53 GMT -6
Lots of fake "producers" out there that just download the latest cracks and talk a good game. "Are you telling me you don't have ALL the waves plugins? Marty at his home studio has the ENTIRE CATALOGUE, and let me tell you what; I never sounded so good as I did with Butch Vig Vocals. Maybe we'll do overdubs and mixing there." Even though I could install a whole catalogue of cracked Waves and other plugins, I'm not really enticed to aside from stuff I already own where the crack works better. I bought from Waves what I liked years ago. I bet a lot of naive clients do get enticed by jokers who have the whole Mercury on their hardrives though. That was what I tried before trying to learn to be a real engineer. Waves and Reaper. The results I got were really disappointing lol Few months later I bought Pro Tools, all the CLA Waves stuff, Pro Q2, Revoice, Waverider, and a couple other things. I was trial demoing everything. Nowadays I have a much better idea what I need. If anything, I try to use and install less plugins as they make Pro Tools load slower and clutter up my workflow. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2021 3:31:25 GMT -6
The only high end plugs that use the full ilok dynamic encryption are reverbs. Zero envelope pushing plugs use it. If anyone thinks developers pushing the envelope like U-he, Tokyo Dawn, and Goodhertz would touch it with a ten foot pole, hell no. Current ilok plugs bloat the executable for no reason other than to treat you like a criminal. I still use PSP plugs because they’re fairy efficient and sound great but compare Kush, Pulsar, or Slate to someone like Klanghelm and it’s a fucking joke. 100 Euros for the whole Klanghelm suite and 200 for the Tokyo Dawn show these developers are smoking fucking crack. You wouldn’t even be able to make the U-he, Tokyo Dawn, and Chow DSP plugs with an ilok because it would eat into the single core performance they devour. The best plugs are simply not heavily copy protected. Look at the Weiss plugs. Gui and copy protection makes 20 year old dsp heavy on modern CPUs. Get out your daw’s analyzer and compare them to Kotelnikov on insane. There’s no reason the DS-1 should be heavier than Presswerk or Pro C 2 but it is. I should add that the cracked U-he plugs and TDR GE editions are unusable without paying. *looks at almost every ilok plug* It might be the GUI more than the Ilok pushing up cpu usage. Sad that the cracked Ilok plugins allegedly work better than the official ones. I've read the details on some where they talk about serious problems that can be caused by the protection. Some of the cracks don't work on Windows and none work on Mac. There should really be a better protection solution than to keep adding more complex code and bloat. It's sad that we can invest thousands in this stuff and then the Ilok has a problem one day and we have to go grab some cracked version just to keep operating. Would be good if after purchasing, the Ilok was smart enough to disable all this interfering code while you're working. The idea of protection doesn't bother me since it creates a barrier to entry. Lots of fake "producers" out there that just download the latest cracks and talk a good game. Before I got into this, I really had no idea how complicated this all is and how important it is to hire someone with the right equipment and experience. There is no massive barrier to entry anymore. The only barrier to entry is your ears and having an average job above the poverty line. Free and cheap plugins (under 200 dollars) knocked down the door. Sascha Eversmeier, Variety of Sound, Fabien, Vlad G, Urs Heckmann, Tony from Klanghelm basically made plugs that the mass market hardware and mass-advertised plug-in houses couldn’t compete with. When they went pro, it was over. The clone hardware and most nasty old gear couldn’t compete. Waves, Slate, UAD etc were shown to be massively overpriced and underfunctional vs the dsp wiz kids. All of the modeled emulations just get crushed vs the dedicated dsp and these guys are pricing it to sell to everyone and they are! They’re killing it. Their plugs are cleaner, more efficient, and more regularly updated than what’s on the banner of gearspace! |
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Post by viciousbliss on Nov 18, 2021 8:59:27 GMT -6
It might be the GUI more than the Ilok pushing up cpu usage. Sad that the cracked Ilok plugins allegedly work better than the official ones. I've read the details on some where they talk about serious problems that can be caused by the protection. Some of the cracks don't work on Windows and none work on Mac. There should really be a better protection solution than to keep adding more complex code and bloat. It's sad that we can invest thousands in this stuff and then the Ilok has a problem one day and we have to go grab some cracked version just to keep operating. Would be good if after purchasing, the Ilok was smart enough to disable all this interfering code while you're working. The idea of protection doesn't bother me since it creates a barrier to entry. Lots of fake "producers" out there that just download the latest cracks and talk a good game. Before I got into this, I really had no idea how complicated this all is and how important it is to hire someone with the right equipment and experience. There is no massive barrier to entry anymore. The only barrier to entry is your ears and having an average job above the poverty line. Free and cheap plugins (under 200 dollars) knocked down the door. Sascha Eversmeier, Variety of Sound, Fabien, Vlad G, Urs Heckmann, Tony from Klanghelm basically made plugs that the mass market hardware and mass-advertised plug-in houses couldn’t compete with. When they went pro, it was over. The clone hardware and most nasty old gear couldn’t compete. Waves, Slate, UAD etc were shown to be massively overpriced and underfunctional vs the dsp wiz kids. All of the modeled emulations just get crushed vs the dedicated dsp and these guys are pricing it to sell to everyone and they are! They’re killing it. Their plugs are cleaner, more efficient, and more regularly updated than what’s on the banner of gearspace! A new person wouldn’t have a clue what’s what. Waves practically gives away plugins. The big companies have big endorsements. I had heard about Waves even as far back as something like 2004 when I wouldn’t have dreamt of doing anything with audio. I’d agree that Molot or TDR Limiter 6 are way ahead of most any emulation, sure. Plenty of ground these smaller companies have not covered yet. Not even the other big companies have made something like Ocean Way. If the perception is there in a prospective client’s or producer’s mind that UAD or whatever is the superior brand, they aren’t going to feel like they can just jump in. Unless maybe they’ve been watching a bunch of Recording Revolution videos. Hah. Then they might go the other way and think they don’t need to hire anyone. |
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