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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 11, 2021 12:35:32 GMT -6
Anybody tried one?
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 11, 2021 12:39:07 GMT -6
Yeah I have one. Haven't used it much in a while. It's fine as an optical compressor. You're kidding yourself it you want it to sound like an LA2A though. It does not. But is a perfectly good optical style compressor that works well. But doesn't have the tone of an LA2A, not by a mile. In this way, I think its actually a different compressor. If you go into with that expectation, you won't be disappointed. Not sure you'll use it a ton either....but it works to hold things steady in a nice way. more discussion on it and the kt76 here: realgearonline.com/thread/10828/kt76-kt2a-any-good
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Post by brenta on Nov 11, 2021 13:00:48 GMT -6
Agree with Blackdawg, it’s a decent optical compressor and an outstanding value, but it has a different color and different action than an LA-2A. I love it on on bass. Occasionally it works great on a vocal, but not as often as a real LA-2A.
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Post by Guitar on Nov 11, 2021 13:10:50 GMT -6
Last time I mentioned Klark Teknik on RGO, people got out the pitchforks and torches, so look out for that! I, myself, am not totally opposed to trying one sometime. Either the 2A or the 76.
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Post by robschnapf on Nov 11, 2021 13:26:46 GMT -6
More better then WARM. Less then good
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 11, 2021 13:27:22 GMT -6
Just saw a used one for super cheap…but I’ll most likely just skip.
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Post by drbill on Nov 11, 2021 14:03:20 GMT -6
I've got one. They're decent. Kind of like a more modern sounding LA2a.
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Post by chessparov on Nov 11, 2021 14:16:10 GMT -6
Any thoughts on their "1176" version? Thanks, Chris
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 14:43:30 GMT -6
How is it vs ART VLA ? The VLA is subtle and a cool shitbox when overdriven
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Post by mike on Nov 11, 2021 14:45:59 GMT -6
Any thoughts on their "1176" version? Thanks, Chris
I think there is subjectively a variety of opinions on them, so I bought one to try but sold it right away. It wasn't for me and turned out about like I might have guessed ymmv.
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Post by Guitar on Nov 11, 2021 14:56:54 GMT -6
How is it vs ART VLA ? The VLA is subtle and a cool shitbox when overdriven That's a weird one, for sure. It tends to freak out if you're anything more than gentle with it. And it has that odd "wooly" tone to it, regarding the coloration. But that was a fun compressor I will admit. Maybe not for lead vocals. Bass guitar is a pretty good source for the ART VLA.
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Post by earlevel on Nov 11, 2021 17:20:05 GMT -6
I've had the 2A-KT on order for some time, originally said to be available in October, now saying February (Sweetwater). I've only had the online listening comparisons to go by, but I liked it better than the Warm, so it seemed like a low-threshold way to start. And some of the other low-ish end $1k) boutique clone were back-ordered till who-knows-when anyway. I've had the 76-KT for a few months. I'm not looking to grunge up drums, I just want something clean and useful while tracking vocals. It's surprisingly clean and effective, considering the cost ($299, now $329). I have little experience tracking with compressors, but I can tell when something makes the sound worse, isn't useful, or is obtrusive. It seems to been a quite valid tool, for impulse-buy money. Maybe some day I'll find out what I'm missing by not paying a lot more, but for now it's some place to start. I was more interested in the 2A, but the 76 came in first, and surprised me that it was as good as it is. So, I believe everyone who says the real thing (or top clones) is so much better, but I don't know how much any of these things will do for me till I try them and use them. The KT's allowed me to get EQP, 76, and (eventually) 2A for a price I wasn't going to cry over. Then I figure I can always move up, one at a time, with anything that I end up liking to work with a lot. In the meantime, I can tell that the 76-KT doesn't sound like an 1176, but it does sound like a clean and usable compressor that didn't cost a lot. Hoping the same for the 2A.
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Post by robschnapf on Nov 11, 2021 17:23:33 GMT -6
I've got one. They're decent. Kind of like a more modern sounding LA2a. Which doesn't sound like a 2A. Not being snobby cuz I love new stuff. But if you're gonna make it look like it Make it sound like it. Dont stop at looks. it's the vegetarian hot dog of LA2A's.
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Post by drbill on Nov 11, 2021 17:42:33 GMT -6
I've got one. They're decent. Kind of like a more modern sounding LA2a. Which doesn't sound like a 2A. Not being snobby cuz I love new stuff. But if you're gonna make it look like it Make it sound like it. Dont stop at looks. it's the vegetarian hot dog of LA2A's. Haha!! . Some people are vegetarians Rob, and that might work for them. LOL. It doesn't cost $4.5k and it works, so...... I guess I take it for what it is. Another opto comp that isn't really what the "numbers" on the faceplate say it is - but one that's not as embarrassing as some inexpensive comps. Its kinda like mics. How many mics have a *47* in the name? How many come even within 20% of a real *47*? Dozens, and I have a few that I can put to good use, even though only the Heiserman gets *close* for me.... It's not the first, second, third or even fourth comp I reach for, but it does get used on occasion. Useful enough that I keep it in the racks, even though I need more rack space....
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Post by teejay on Nov 11, 2021 18:25:47 GMT -6
Last time I mentioned Klark Teknik on RGO, people got out the pitchforks and torches, so look out for that! I, myself, am not totally opposed to trying one sometime. Either the 2A or the 76. No worries, Dan. JK referenced "Klerk" Teknik, which is Klark's younger brother who is more the "stock boy" of opticals. Rather than pitchforks you may see a few shoes being tossed.
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Post by robschnapf on Nov 11, 2021 19:55:11 GMT -6
Which doesn't sound like a 2A. Not being snobby cuz I love new stuff. But if you're gonna make it look like it Make it sound like it. Dont stop at looks. it's the vegetarian hot dog of LA2A's. Haha!! . Some people are vegetarians Rob, and that might work for them. LOL. It doesn't cost $4.5k and it works, so...... I guess I take it for what it is. Another opto comp that isn't really what the "numbers" on the faceplate say it is - but one that's not as embarrassing as some inexpensive comps. Its kinda like mics. How many mics have a *47* in the name? How many come even within 20% of a real *47*? Dozens, and I have a few that I can put to good use, even though only the Heiserman gets *close* for me.... It's not the first, second, third or even fourth comp I reach for, but it does get used on occasion. Useful enough that I keep it in the racks, even though I need more rack space.... Exactly I think we agree. All I'm saying is I want a behringer 2600.
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Post by phantom on Nov 11, 2021 19:55:53 GMT -6
Sounds like a LA2A? No. The tone and the action are different.
But it can do the same job as the LA2A. In a different way but with similar results.
All in all, a good optical.
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Post by drbill on Nov 11, 2021 20:18:25 GMT -6
Haha!! . Some people are vegetarians Rob, and that might work for them. LOL. It doesn't cost $4.5k and it works, so...... I guess I take it for what it is. Another opto comp that isn't really what the "numbers" on the faceplate say it is - but one that's not as embarrassing as some inexpensive comps. Its kinda like mics. How many mics have a *47* in the name? How many come even within 20% of a real *47*? Dozens, and I have a few that I can put to good use, even though only the Heiserman gets *close* for me.... It's not the first, second, third or even fourth comp I reach for, but it does get used on occasion. Useful enough that I keep it in the racks, even though I need more rack space.... Exactly I think we agree. All I'm saying is I want a behringer 2600. <thumbsup!!!!>. Agreed. Especially on the 2600!
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Post by EmRR on Nov 11, 2021 20:19:29 GMT -6
Sounds like comparing it to a lot of OTHER optical comps is more realistic, is there some other more known that is most similar? Is it 'better' than some other well known more expensive types?
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Post by hadaja on Nov 11, 2021 21:18:57 GMT -6
I had a rev f 1176ln and i sold it a while back as it added too much hair on everything. Went down the warm audio 76 track and thought there might have been something wrong with it so sold it to a friend who loved it. Bought another warm audio and it sounded the same . Got use to it and then meters went hay wire. Knobs felt bad. Took a plunge and bought a kt76. Knobs feel great, needle works fine, sounds great. So i bought a kt2a and never taken it out of the box since getting the weight tank comp and the AS vari mu comp. but i cant bring myself to sell the kt2a just yet.,
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Post by drumsound on Nov 11, 2021 21:26:37 GMT -6
How is it vs ART VLA ? The VLA is subtle and a cool shitbox when overdriven That's a weird one, for sure. It tends to freak out if you're anything more than gentle with it. And it has that odd "wooly" tone to it, regarding the coloration. But that was a fun compressor I will admit. Maybe not for lead vocals. Bass guitar is a pretty good source for the ART VLA. Wurly too.
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Post by craigmorris74 on Nov 11, 2021 21:35:03 GMT -6
It reacts like a LA-2A. It doesn't have the box tone of one though.
Just speculating, but vintage iron probably makes the biggest differnce, followed by the tubes. I do know that vintage GE tube in the first position makes a heck of a bit difference and makes it sound much less modern.
I've owned two ART VLAs, one stock, and one that I replaced the input section with Stancor transformers. They sound cool, but nothing like a LA-2A.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2021 22:02:44 GMT -6
It reacts like a LA-2A. It doesn't have the box tone of one though. In what way? The LA-2A has an uncanny ability to tame the top end of a microphone / smooth it out (sorta the whole point for me), something the WA-2A I bought at one point didn't seem capable of doing.
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Post by subspace on Nov 11, 2021 22:07:21 GMT -6
The KT-2A is a great tracking compressor for bass. It also looks a lot like a famous compressor that sounds different.
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Post by chessparov on Nov 11, 2021 22:46:35 GMT -6
I must confess, that (effectively) in storage (ex-girlfriend's garage-safely tucked away-long story)... There's a mint Bellari LA-120 (full voltage plate BTW!). Only tried it a couple of times, and it sounded pretty cool. My understanding is that it was the "Poor Man's" LA2A of its day, around 25 years ago. Eventually I'll have it back and it'll be fun to mess with. Right now the Band Lab LA2A and 1176 Plugs (Cakewalk based) are OK at my level of learning. Chris
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