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Post by christophert on Nov 5, 2021 17:35:33 GMT -6
Hi all you AudioScape fans, I have a spot in my racks for an AudioScape 1176. I have read all of the descriptions on the site, but wanted those who have used them to please give me the run down on the differences / the most versatile, and the characteristics.
Not really looking to do vocal compression, as I have plenty of tube gear to do this task. (although I may go there sometimes)
Thinking generally to use for snare / giving bass a bit of attitude / mono overheads etc.
Which one would you recommend - and why
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Post by sean on Nov 5, 2021 17:38:41 GMT -6
Rev A’s have the most character/harmonic distortion/brightness so if you are wanting something that can add a little growl to a bass or snap/crackle/pop to a snare that would be my suggestion.
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Post by christophert on Nov 5, 2021 18:08:02 GMT -6
Thanks sean - good to know !
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Post by christophert on Nov 5, 2021 18:16:37 GMT -6
How is the 76D for these tasks ? Interested due to the use of original fets and transformers (and all buttons in)
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 5, 2021 23:33:19 GMT -6
I've always used Rev D for drums.
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Post by christophert on Nov 6, 2021 0:11:00 GMT -6
I've always used Rev D for drums. Is there a specific reason for that ? The site description mentions the low end stays intact / is this why you use the D ?
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 6, 2021 1:08:47 GMT -6
I've always used Rev D for drums. Is there a specific reason for that ? The site description mentions the low end stays intact / is this why you use the D ?
It has a higher threshold than the A as well. And sounds more snappy. The A can be a bit too much for certain things harmonically.
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Post by christophert on Nov 6, 2021 3:01:54 GMT -6
Great info thanks. Much appreciated
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Post by tahoebrian5 on Nov 6, 2021 10:09:05 GMT -6
Ive read a description on gslutz from Ascape that indicated the D is punchy, F is thick, A is dirtiest most character.
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Post by Ward on Nov 6, 2021 11:06:29 GMT -6
I usually prefer Fs on snare, but Ds on Kick and buss.
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Post by anders on Nov 6, 2021 13:30:05 GMT -6
If you choose a Serpent Splice instead, you'll not only have an A *and* a D in a single box, you'll even have the option of A frontend, D output, or vice versa.
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Post by bgrotto on Nov 6, 2021 13:59:04 GMT -6
D for all of the above.
If you’re interested in the serpent splice, I have a pair of the 500 units that I gotta sell....
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Post by christophert on Nov 6, 2021 15:51:32 GMT -6
Amazing that AudioScape make so many different flavours - no other manufacturer would bother.... Says a LOT about the passion behind the gear
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Post by christophert on Nov 6, 2021 21:18:50 GMT -6
I usually prefer Fs on snare, but Ds on Kick and buss. Hey Ward - have you tried the F on bass? The more I contemplate my 1176 use - I guess it would be mainly snare / and at times bass. I used to own a pair of original F's / but I presume there will be sonic differences with the AudioScapes F's
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Post by enlav on Nov 7, 2021 7:16:58 GMT -6
D for all of the above. If you’re interested in the serpent splice, I have a pair of the 500 units that I gotta sell.... Should we be expecting those in the classified sub-forum soon?
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Post by bgrotto on Nov 7, 2021 10:17:00 GMT -6
D for all of the above. If you’re interested in the serpent splice, I have a pair of the 500 units that I gotta sell.... Should we be expecting those in the classified sub-forum soon? Ha, yeah I suppose so. If I can get around to taking pictures...which these days seems a tall order for me🤦🏻♂️ I’m not exactly highly motivated to sell so I’m dragging my feet.
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Post by Ward on Nov 7, 2021 15:18:30 GMT -6
I usually prefer Fs on snare, but Ds on Kick and buss. Hey Ward - have you tried the F on bass? The more I contemplate my 1176 use - I guess it would be mainly snare / and at times bass. I used to own a pair of original F's / but I presume there will be sonic differences with the AudioScapes F's
Bass? My dude. The D is DEE BEST on bass!! Seriously kicks ass. The tone is preserved. A tiny touch of high end grind accentuation but the punch is where it's at/ I absolutely love my 76D on bass.
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Post by forgotteng on Nov 7, 2021 17:27:40 GMT -6
I've been rocking the 76F on bass since I got it. Of course I don't have a D yet to compare it too.
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Post by christophert on Nov 7, 2021 18:41:27 GMT -6
Hey Ward - have you tried the F on bass? The more I contemplate my 1176 use - I guess it would be mainly snare / and at times bass. I used to own a pair of original F's / but I presume there will be sonic differences with the AudioScapes F's
Bass? My dude. The D is DEE BEST on bass!! Seriously kicks ass. The tone is preserved. A tiny touch of high end grind accentuation but the punch is where it's at/ I absolutely love my 76D on bass. Thanks a million ! Looks like a D is on my shopping list
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Post by Ward on Nov 8, 2021 8:53:06 GMT -6
I've been rocking the 76F on bass since I got it. Of course I don't have a D yet to compare it too. i would use a 76F on mic'ed stand-up bass viol. But i would use two microphones on stand-up anyhow. A D12e or another LDD or a 44 to capture low-end resonance and a U87 or U47fet up higher to capture detail, use the -6 80hz lpf and run that into a clean pre like a Grace and into a 76F But that's only me. I'd like jeremygillespie's and jmoose's thoughts on that also!
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Post by jeremygillespie on Nov 8, 2021 16:30:17 GMT -6
When I have access to it...
I’ve used a real deal original u47 on John Patitucci pointed between the bridge and f hole about 1 1/2 feet back. It was a pretty amazing upright and a pretty damn amazing player and it sounded perfect haha. Into a Hairball Lola and then an la3a no gain reduction just for the flavor. No additional mic.
For a lesser upright and player (sorry) it was a chandler tg mic at the bridge and a 160 up by the home base fingering position and the blend worked nicely in a more dense not so jazzy mix. I believe the tg mic went into a Hairball rev d.
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Post by jhsmastering on Nov 11, 2021 16:16:13 GMT -6
So...why F over D on acoustic bass? Just curious...
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Post by Ward on Nov 11, 2021 18:19:52 GMT -6
So...why F over D on acoustic bass? Just curious... Cleaner. And doesn't;t clamp down as hard on the low end sort of like the compression is on the signal that goes through an HPF first... kinda sorta like know what I mean?
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Post by jhsmastering on Nov 11, 2021 20:16:22 GMT -6
So...why F over D on acoustic bass? Just curious... Cleaner. And doesn't;t clamp down as hard on the low end sort of like the compression is on the signal that goes through an HPF first... kinda sorta like know what I mean? Lol yes, I get ya! I've actually never tracked acoustic bass through a comp, always did compression during mixing. Something I should try eventually!
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Post by Ward on Nov 12, 2021 8:12:54 GMT -6
Cleaner. And doesn't;t clamp down as hard on the low end sort of like the compression is on the signal that goes through an HPF first... kinda sorta like know what I mean? Lol yes, I get ya! I've actually never tracked acoustic bass through a comp, always did compression during mixing. Something I should try eventually! Don't be afraid to commit. Many of us had to record finished tracks, back in the day, due to a limited amount of hardware available. So we learned. And it's satisfying to have great tracks recorded that don't require plugins. Sure, you can use them to sweeten, and you can use all this great gear with hardware inserts, but it's a fulfilling feeling to have recorded tracks using signal chains that end up sounding beautiful. JMHO
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