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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 30, 2021 12:09:15 GMT -6
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Post by yewtreemagic on Oct 30, 2021 14:11:43 GMT -6
A fascinating half hour well-spent, so thanks for that link! I though it was beautifully presented too, and such comparisons tend to be thin on the ground at this level. The only small thing that grated for me was his repeated references to 'stated frequency response down to 38Hz'. Yes, I know exactly what he meant, and this doesn't change any of his conclusions about 'how low' each of his test models go, but I wouldn't want any of his viewers to go away with the impression that a loudspeaker simply cuts off at a specific frequency - they just start rolling off at a certain point, with a slope dictated by the cabinet design (sealed/ported, and so on), and are then a certain number of dBs down at a certain frequency. I love my tiny ATC SCM10 Pro loudspeakers (which I bought an amazing 24 years ago, direct from the nearby ATC factory), and they are still going strong. They have a quoted frequency response of 60Hz to 20kHz at the -6dB points, yet because of their sealed box design they roll off more gently at the low end than many ported designs, and I can still make sensible decisions about the low end on my mixes down to about 30Hz at a pinch, especially as they are placed close to the front wall, to reinforce that extreme bottom end. Am I being too picky? Answers on a postcard please  |
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 30, 2021 14:26:40 GMT -6
I agree with you. Your comment is insightful in that an absolute measurement tells you one piece of data, but what is the visceral experience like sitting in front of the monitors?
For example, with low end maybe one monitor represents the kick and bass very clearly with a tight response, but struggles to finish the lowest octave for an orchestra .
Another monitor might do the opposite.
Measurements tell you important data, but it’s sort of theoretical, what you will care most about, is the actual sound and it’s characteristics for critical monitoring decisions.
I’ve had about 20 different decent ($1k-$3k) to very good monitors in my room. On paper they were arguably, more similar, then dissimilar : in real life all very different, with port or closed design, being a very significant part of the actual real life differences.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2021 15:07:38 GMT -6
He also said the ones with the most distorted treble, the Adams, had the best treble so it’s all subjective.
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 30, 2021 15:38:03 GMT -6
Another example of what I was saying. I had ax7s for a while at first I was knocked out by the high end info, but eventually, I felt it sounded unnatural. I think a function of the transponder design: others love them !  |
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