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Post by EmRR on Oct 20, 2021 7:03:32 GMT -6
Lots of familiar names on this thread, thanks for all the kind words! Great to hear from the creator! Any other microphones in the pipeline?
(This whole post has reminded me that I'm either criminally unaware of companies that make dynamics, sans the big names, or there aren't many out there)
complete turnaround from 20 years ago, when a condenser was a hard thing to find. |
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Post by draliensmith on Oct 20, 2021 19:38:56 GMT -6
Lots of familiar names on this thread, thanks for all the kind words! Great to hear from the creator! Any other microphones in the pipeline?
(This whole post has reminded me that I'm either criminally unaware of companies that make dynamics, sans the big names, or there aren't many out there)
Yeah I have my next mic conceptualized but not prototyped yet so in my head it seems like a great idea but it might end up sounding terrible in reality, haha! I do have a few other products, the DirtBox is the other thing I make. Its a phantom powered, microphone level analog distortion box. Transformer in to bump up to high impedance and transformer out to bring it back down. Think of it like a Soyez Launcher but with 10 rows of teeth. Lots of fun on any mic and any source  I also used to do a bamboo shell subkick but I recently had to discontinue it as the factory making the speakers I used stopped making them which was disappointing. |
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Post by vintagetubelug on Oct 21, 2021 18:15:57 GMT -6
Holy smokes the Alien8 is amazing. I just put it up through one of my channels with no EQ and it sounds like where I want my kick to end up. A/B to my very good sounding D12 and it's the closest modern mic to a great D12 I've come across. I told Alan that to my ears it sounds like a great D12 minus a bit of the midrange honk that I end up carving out. I'm a bit swamped for a few days buy I will try to share some clips soon. Absolutely killer mic for kick drum. Gonna be seeing a lot of use in my studio.
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Post by phdamage on Oct 25, 2021 13:09:20 GMT -6
used this on some distorted bass overdubs just yesterday. worked and sounded great, though I doubt it'll unseat my Latvian BLUE Mouse on typical 8x10 duty.
the kick I tracked with this is sitting quite nicely with way less EQ/sculpting that I am used to and I'm not relying so much on the front head mic to get some thump in there. no more tucking those 5k-ish peaks on the transients with TDL Nova! Yes, pls!
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Post by sirthought on Oct 26, 2021 18:18:25 GMT -6
Lots of familiar names on this thread, thanks for all the kind words! Great to hear from the creator! Any other microphones in the pipeline?
(This whole post has reminded me that I'm either criminally unaware of companies that make dynamics, sans the big names, or there aren't many out there)
Couple other products out right now. www.draliensmith.com/products |
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Post by jhsmastering on Nov 2, 2021 7:26:40 GMT -6
When you use the bottom-capsule-only setting, would you flip the mic around to point that at the source, or leave it in a normal position? I'm not too familiar with figure-8 mics, so please forgive the noob question. Would also be interested in hearing opinions about this on upright acoustic bass.
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Post by Ward on Nov 2, 2021 7:35:07 GMT -6
When you use the bottom-capsule-only setting, would you flip the mic around to point that at the source, or leave it in a normal position? I'm not too familiar with figure-8 mics, so please forgive the noob question. Would also be interested in hearing opinions about this on upright acoustic bass. That's not as bad a question as you seem to think!! I was recording a 24" bass drum once, with an acoustic trio. SO I removed any dampening and padding, and took a D12e , put it inside the drum (desktop stand and all) and fipped it around to face the outer head (and then put the head back on) the head had the usual 5" hole in it. The sound was glorious. Rules are made to be broken. |
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Post by jhsmastering on Nov 2, 2021 8:09:34 GMT -6
When you use the bottom-capsule-only setting, would you flip the mic around to point that at the source, or leave it in a normal position? I'm not too familiar with figure-8 mics, so please forgive the noob question. Would also be interested in hearing opinions about this on upright acoustic bass. That's not as bad a question as you seem to think!! I was recording a 24" bass drum once, with an acoustic trio. SO I removed any dampening and padding, and took a D12e , put it inside the drum (desktop stand and all) and fipped it around to face the outer head (and then put the head back on) the head had the usual 5" hole in it. The sound was glorious. Rules are made to be broken. Thanks, I appreciate that. That does sound interesting! Whatever gets the sound you want/love is what should be. |
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Post by EmRR on Nov 2, 2021 9:21:26 GMT -6
figure 8 tangent - I did use an MKH 30 on kick once, and it kinda ruled.
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Post by vintagetubelug on Nov 4, 2021 17:43:40 GMT -6
I did a quick test of the Alien8 against my lovely sounding D12. Below are the files - one is the PT session and the other is just standalone audio files if you're in a different DAW. My drum for this is an old Camco kick with a full goatskin front head. This has a nice full sustain and a lot of low end which I thought would help show off the mics best. My takeaway from using the Alien8 for a week or so now is it sounds much like my D12 minus some of the midrange I almost always cut, without sounding excessively scooped. I also notice it rejects much better than the D12. Overall it is a total winner for me and I've been sending tracks to some of my regular clients who all love the tones. Both kick mics are going through BAE 1084s with no EQ or filters. OHs going through CAPI VP28s and Coles through AEA TRP.
I'll do another one soon with a ported front head.
In this session I included my OHs (KM84s) and my stereo rooms (4038s) to be able to hear the mics with a little more context of the whole kit. PT Session - it's small! www.dropbox.com/s/suh6x5z9kgwg0g2/Copy%20of%20Alien8%20vs%20D12%20kick%20shootout.zip?dl=0Just audio files zipped - www.dropbox.com/s/f0yr9lplw2hg5xw/Alien8%20D12%20shootout.zip?dl=0 |
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Post by vintagetubelug on Nov 4, 2021 18:22:29 GMT -6
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Post by Ward on Nov 5, 2021 6:47:52 GMT -6
Thanks for doing that! Just DLed and will port over to the powermac now for an inspection. |
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Post by draliensmith on Nov 6, 2021 7:57:09 GMT -6
When you use the bottom-capsule-only setting, would you flip the mic around to point that at the source, or leave it in a normal position? I'm not too familiar with figure-8 mics, so please forgive the noob question. Would also be interested in hearing opinions about this on upright acoustic bass. No you wouldnt flip it, bottom cap only is the back of the capsule but phase flipped. If you turn the mic around you'd end up with the front of a capsule and the mic in reverse phase. Does that make sense?  |
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Post by Ward on Nov 6, 2021 15:55:43 GMT -6
SNIP bottom cap only is the back of the capsule but phase flipped. If you turn the mic around you'd end up with the front of a capsule and the mic in reverse phase. Does that make sense? I underconstumble ferpectly. |
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Post by jhsmastering on Nov 7, 2021 6:45:58 GMT -6
When you use the bottom-capsule-only setting, would you flip the mic around to point that at the source, or leave it in a normal position? I'm not too familiar with figure-8 mics, so please forgive the noob question. Would also be interested in hearing opinions about this on upright acoustic bass. No you wouldnt flip it, bottom cap only is the back of the capsule but phase flipped. If you turn the mic around you'd end up with the front of a capsule and the mic in reverse phase. Does that make sense? Took me a little bit, but yes, I'm tracking with you. Btw, really cool mic design! Would you happen to know if anyone has used it on upright acoustic bass? |
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Post by draliensmith on Nov 8, 2021 6:08:13 GMT -6
No you wouldnt flip it, bottom cap only is the back of the capsule but phase flipped. If you turn the mic around you'd end up with the front of a capsule and the mic in reverse phase. Does that make sense? Took me a little bit, but yes, I'm tracking with you. Btw, really cool mic design! Would you happen to know if anyone has used it on upright acoustic bass? Awesome,thanks!! No I havent had a chance to test it on upright bass myself but I would be very interested in hearing it. |
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Post by jampa on Nov 9, 2021 1:23:14 GMT -6
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Post by extempo on Nov 14, 2022 18:19:25 GMT -6
I just got one in that I can't wait to try, though the 8 week old boarder collie puppy that came at the same time is making it difficult. She sure it cute though 
Saw there was a new comparison up between the Alien8 and D12:
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Post by sirthought on Nov 14, 2022 23:14:09 GMT -6
Nice. Yes it sounds dialed in right away.
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Post by phdamage on Nov 15, 2022 12:29:16 GMT -6
been rockin this mic consistently inside kick since i got it! even used on dirt guitars recently! love this stuff. also, while the exchange rate was better a couple weeks ago, it's still pretty good!
seriously considering the wormhole cuz it's cheap
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Post by sirthought on Nov 15, 2022 13:55:23 GMT -6
been rockin this mic consistently inside kick since i got it! even used on dirt guitars recently! love this stuff. also, while the exchange rate was better a couple weeks ago, it's still pretty good! seriously considering the wormhole cuz it's cheap I had not heard about the Wormhole. What an interesting idea. I already purchased his sub kick (I think I got the last one). |
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Post by christophert on Nov 16, 2022 2:56:58 GMT -6
I'm a big fan, I want another.
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Post by draliensmith on Dec 9, 2022 23:53:38 GMT -6
been rockin this mic consistently inside kick since i got it! even used on dirt guitars recently! love this stuff. also, while the exchange rate was better a couple weeks ago, it's still pretty good! seriously considering the wormhole cuz it's cheap Thats awesome to hear, glad you're enjoying it I should probably start another thread but yes, the Wormhole is my latest mic. Its an electret condensor with a 6ft hose attached to the end. It doesn't do the reverb thing that Sylvia Massy uses the garden hose for but its been tweaked to be a thickening type of mic. The hose acts like a physical eq, imagine having a loud band practising next door to you, the Wormhole sounds like what you hear through the wall. Lots of low end, not much mids and tops. I like it recording a drum kit, adding it into a normal set of close mics it adds lots of weight to the overall sound. The hose part of the Wormhole also can act like a contact mic too so it does have some interesting possibilities. |
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Post by enlav on Aug 2, 2023 11:29:55 GMT -6
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Post by sirthought on Aug 2, 2023 19:28:55 GMT -6
Yeah, not sure if it's exact same circuit as the Alien8, but it's a figure 8 dynamic. Probably the only two figure 8 dynamics on the market.
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