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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 15, 2014 18:07:52 GMT -6
I'll bet Randy would like it though and I'll tell you why, he records some of the best players around including himself. At that level, you just want a comp to stay out of the way because a lot of the magic is in the players hands via dynamic. That's my guess.
But it's still not much of a buss comp.
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Post by kcatthedog on May 15, 2014 19:27:18 GMT -6
"My CL 7802 is exactly what I like in a buss comp. I'll probably keep it forever. "
^^this^^,
thanks to you, I have mine and there is just something right about it: set and forget !
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Post by Randge on May 15, 2014 19:58:43 GMT -6
I usually don't buss compress very much since I know my mastering guy's first stage is a Manley Vari-mu. I bet I would love it for tracking. I am digging these Ingram 500 series channel strips as of late. With the side chain eq most of the way up, you get some very transparent compression. Shad Cobb just left from overdubbing a claw hammer banjo part on an all acoustic rock track. The Ingram was perfect for the job and I ended up having to do absolutely nothing after recording it but panning and leveling it in preparation for mix.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 16, 2014 7:52:25 GMT -6
Anybody ever used the Atomic Squeezebox? I always heard that was super transparent...
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Post by warren on May 16, 2014 8:24:57 GMT -6
Interested in opinions about the squeezabox as well
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Post by jcoutu1 on May 16, 2014 8:39:07 GMT -6
Anybody ever used the Atomic Squeezebox? I always heard that was super transparent... I heard one probably in 2006 or so while I was still in school. One of my professors rented one from Mercenary and brought it in for class one day. So he could check it out and we could all get a listen. Super transparent was exactly the way I would describe it. It had the ability to shape things nicely, but was very clean. Personally, it's not where I would spend $6k, but for someone who wants clean it could be just the ticket. |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 16, 2014 12:43:31 GMT -6
Good Lord...are they that much?
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Post by Bob Olhsson on May 17, 2014 8:37:23 GMT -6
I tried the squeezebox and thought it was so clean it might as well be digital!
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Post by jimwilliams on May 20, 2014 9:06:25 GMT -6
Hmmm... interest in a non colored, not audible compressor?
I use 5 Aphex 651's here. That's the only one I've squashed 30 db on while everyone is asking, "do you have that thing on yet?"
DC to 250k hz, zero phase shift, .002% THD and that high frequency expander that maskes the compression effect.
The guys at the Record Plant said it best:
"It's like there's a little man inside that's running a fader up and down who's smarter and faster than we are".
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Post by wiz on May 20, 2014 16:39:37 GMT -6
Hmmm... interest in a non colored, not audible compressor? I use 5 Aphex 651's here. That's the only one I've squashed 30 db on while everyone is asking, "do you have that thing on yet?" DC to 250k hz, zero phase shift, .002% THD and that high frequency expander that maskes the compression effect. The guys at the Record Plant said it best: "It's like there's a little man inside that's running a fader up and down who's smarter and faster than we are". Hey Jim (I bought PIPs off you, they are still sounding fine 8) ) are the apex 651s modded (most likely) and can that mod be done by your normal DIY guy? jimwilliamscheers Wiz |
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Post by tonycamphd on May 20, 2014 17:49:57 GMT -6
wiz I think i can answer that, as i have 5 JW modded 651's(soon to be more), well actually, i copy modded a pair myself out of curiosity, but i paid JW to do the first ones as he's the monster who came up with this crazy great mod, and for how cheap they are(i think the mod is $150), i'll never do it myself again, it was a pain in the arse for me, JW makes it easy. As far as the performance, they are virtually transparent imo, i'm not a track with compression guy, but when i have to, these are it plain and simple, and when your looking to fit something better into a mix, without changing the timbre, these are it again, they are very much like the best fader riding you've never heard.
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Post by wiz on May 20, 2014 18:03:26 GMT -6
wiz I think i can answer that, as i have 5 JW modded 651's(soon to be more), well actually, i copy modded a pair myself out of curiosity, but i paid JW to do the first ones as he's the monster who came up with this crazy great mod, and for how cheap they are(i think the mod is $150), i'll never do it myself again, it was a pain in the arse for me, JW makes it easy. As far as the performance, they are virtually transparent imo, i'm not a track with compression guy, but when i have to, these are it plain and simple, and when your looking to fit something better into a mix, without changing the timbre, these are it again, they are very much like the best fader riding you've never heard. cool i will keep my eye out cheers Wiz |
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Post by winetree on May 20, 2014 20:48:26 GMT -6
How do the Aphex 651's sound stock without the mod?
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Post by tonycamphd on May 20, 2014 21:29:12 GMT -6
How do the Aphex 651's sound stock without the mod? Imo, pretty good, but a little cloudy in comparison. The modded is as good as it gets from a standpoint of transparency, meaning you cant get any more transparent than invisible, the only thing you hear happening is the quiet nuances come closer to the surface, even at quite radical settings. The power supply gets upgraded, the opamps are updated and stabilized to the latest and greatest, and polystyrene caps are put in the high frequency eq portion of the circuit, then he does some other stuff, but I have no clue what he's doing. |
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Post by warren on May 24, 2014 0:58:14 GMT -6
Just sold it. Yeah Tony it just didn't have any of the compression characteristics I'm use to. It didn't put the "squeeze" on you know? It wasn't like fader rides either. Not much girth. Just kinna uneventful. I'm used to getting something out of a compressor so it just wasn't for me. It might be just what someone's looking for though. It's not a bad comp just not what I like. My CL 7802 is exactly what I like in a buss comp. I'll probably keep it forever. Goes to show that price doesn't always reflect quality because the 7802 is a very reasonable comp. That said, the best sounding comp I think I ever used was a Neve Portico MBP. Some wow on that one but daaauuum, 4k. "My CL 7802 is exactly what I like in a buss comp. I'll probably keep it forever. " ^^this^^, thanks to you, I have mine and there is just something right about it: set and forget ! Curious, did you guys change the stock tube on the 7802? If yes, what did you change it to? Mullards etc? |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 24, 2014 5:10:18 GMT -6
I had to replace the original because it was out of hours. Just went back with a JJ, nothing special. It sounds wonderful bone stock to me.
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Post by kcatthedog on May 24, 2014 5:51:26 GMT -6
yes mullard military grade from christian at proaudiotubes, have also used a ge 6702; preferred the mullard; ymmv !
mine did not have the stock tube, but came with an older rca that is known for its noisiness
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Post by warren on May 24, 2014 11:23:27 GMT -6
Cool thanks guys. Have stock on mine but guess when I have more time/bored, I'll swap out the tube and see if there's a big difference.
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Post by Ward on May 25, 2014 19:05:47 GMT -6
You know, if an Alesis 3630 is good enough for Skrillex, it's good enough for the rest of us.
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