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Post by chessparov on May 27, 2021 23:49:18 GMT -6
You may remember this was/is a fave of Fletcher's in setting the U195 up, for vocals. Despite a long day at work/being pretty tired, I managed a short bit of warbling to hear it again. Audio clip below... Chris
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Post by drumsound on May 28, 2021 15:14:35 GMT -6
Yeah, man!
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Post by guitfiddler on May 29, 2021 2:34:20 GMT -6
Always wanted one of these. Would you say this is a very good workhorse mic, sounds good on anything?
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Post by Guitar on May 29, 2021 3:37:45 GMT -6
Sounds great!
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Post by chessparov on May 29, 2021 9:08:24 GMT -6
Thanks for listening guys! Chris
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Post by chessparov on May 29, 2021 9:20:03 GMT -6
Always wanted one of these. Would you say this is a very good workhorse mic, sounds good on anything? My understanding is that David Bock designed the U195 for after a Commercial Pro studio, already had the "studio standard" U87ai. Or a Project Studio needed a lower cost/quality alternative "all rounder", to the U87ai. The U195 here works better on me "out of the box" on vocals because... It's similar to flattening the U87ai's upper mid "bite", and adding more "air" around 12 KHz. Interesting also that it has an excellent reputation, as a kick mic. As it has a K67 capsule, versus the 47 FET. My guess is that for acoustic guitar, you'd want it on FLAT. Which is slightly on the bright-ish side of Neutral. Chris P.S. I still have a great respect for the U87ai and vintage U87!
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Post by phdamage on May 31, 2021 14:31:17 GMT -6
Always wanted one of these. Would you say this is a very good workhorse mic, sounds good on anything? Absolutely! I bought a second recently and have been enjoying them as a pair of drum overheads. Love them on guitar cabs, kick reso and vocals - though the Lawson tube I got recently is always tried first now for vox. Only limitation I could imagine would be placement.
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Post by chessparov on May 31, 2021 15:48:55 GMT -6
L47 or L251? Chris
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Post by phdamage on Jun 1, 2021 12:41:08 GMT -6
I got a first gen L47 and, separately, an L47FET - which is my new fave for kick reso and it occasionally beats my Latvian made Blue Mouse on bass cab. the L47 has wowed me in literally every application I have tried. the 47FET, less so. seems to break up on loud guitars and hasn't wowed me yet on vox.
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Post by chessparov on Jun 1, 2021 13:22:18 GMT -6
Has an excellent reputation for VO. Chris
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Post by guitfiddler on Jun 9, 2021 12:47:28 GMT -6
I found a Soundelux U195, first impressions are I really like it. I thought I would get the older version since I found one, and try a Bock next to see if there are big differences between the two.
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Post by chessparov on Jun 9, 2021 13:41:17 GMT -6
IMHO anything Davd B. has anything to do with... Is exceptional! Chris
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Post by guitfiddler on Jun 9, 2021 13:57:33 GMT -6
IMHO anything Davd B. has anything to do with... Is exceptional! Chris I am in absolute agreement with that statement
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Post by robschnapf on Jun 9, 2021 14:08:07 GMT -6
I have shot out the 195 vs the FET 47 on both bass and kick and preferred it on both. I also recently have been really digging the Roswell Colares on bass. I stripped the Coloares finish off because it made me not wanna use it. Anyways Back to work
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Post by phdamage on Jun 9, 2021 22:06:22 GMT -6
I found a Soundelux U195, first impressions are I really like it. I thought I would get the older version since I found one, and try a Bock next to see if there are big differences between the two. Funny thing, mine are OG and a whole 15 serial numbers apart but thecapsules are mounted completely differently in the headbasket - one significantly higher. I kinda freaked out and wrote Soundelux. They told me the higher mounting post is the newer one. I was just shocked only 15 digits had such a difference. Also, they work just fine as a stereo pair.
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Post by chessparov on Jun 9, 2021 22:26:50 GMT -6
At least that's one basket case, that ended up a perfect match. Chris
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Post by ab101 on Jun 9, 2021 22:49:12 GMT -6
At least that's one basket case, that ended up a perfect match. Chris I am amazed at what you can weave into a thread. (Hmmm - interesting choice of words unintentionally.) On a serious note, I can see where David Bock might discover something and make a change without it being a huge run of serial numbers later. My impression of him through the years, is that he is always seeking improvements.
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Post by chessparov on Jun 9, 2021 22:54:42 GMT -6
I'd love to try a U95 someday. Seemed an intriguing model.
My guess is sometimes a boutique manufacturer, might also make changes... As capsule and/or parts availability change. (Which even the mighty Neumann had to do) Chris
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Post by robschnapf on Jun 10, 2021 2:52:11 GMT -6
I have an old U95 from the 90s. Used t use it a lot going to tape. In the digital world It suffers from the bright capsulitis. I swapped out the capsule for something more 47ish. Sounds good but it isn’t quite the answer. Think I’m gonna try a Heiserman capsule in there next.
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Post by guitfiddler on Jun 10, 2021 8:14:17 GMT -6
I used a Focusrite 110 on the U95 and it slays! That fat switch really adds a nice heft, but isn’t muddy. Nice!
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 10, 2021 8:45:32 GMT -6
I had the Bock 195 for a while. The basic cardioid pickup pattern was just too wide for comfort. It almost felt like it was in omni mode, so I sold it. It was sweet on acoustic guitar though.
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Post by guitfiddler on Jun 10, 2021 8:55:09 GMT -6
I had the Bock 195 for a while. The basic cardioid pickup pattern was just too wide for comfort. It almost felt like it was in omni mode, so I sold it. It was sweet on acoustic guitar though. . I will have to spend more time with it, but mine definitely didn’t sound like it was in Omni mode. I just did some harmony back up vocals with it yesterday. I will put it on some acoustic today, and test proximity and throw up a 151 and see if they have a similar pattern. The 151 has a wide cardioid according to the advertisement.
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Post by chessparov on Jun 10, 2021 13:33:02 GMT -6
I had the Bock 195 for a while. The basic cardioid pickup pattern was just too wide for comfort. It almost felt like it was in omni mode, so I sold it. It was sweet on acoustic guitar though. On mine (newest version), the Cardiod is Wide indeed. Best to go to a "real" Studio on loud vocals. Chris
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 10, 2021 14:16:32 GMT -6
It bummed me out because I liked the general sound of the mic. My favorite mic, the U67 has a wide cardioid pickup pattern too, but it falls within the boundaries we need to feel comfortable when singing. In fact I'd say it's the "biggest" sounding mic that sounds right.
My Soyuz 0-19 and Stam SA-67 both have that perfect width. They both have capsules similar to the Neumann U67.
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Post by chessparov on Jun 10, 2021 15:28:10 GMT -6
Fortunately this U195 is very fine for the gentler/folksier type ballads, I like to sing too. At work after hours, or a local conference room. Chris
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