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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 24, 2014 21:29:12 GMT -6
I know we talked about this somewhere...but I'm too lazy to search. My God, is there a decent one out there? The Alicia's Keys is the only one that doesn't sound mostly fake to me...Maybe it's the new power amp on these monitors...because I don't remember being this dissatisfied before...
Anyone tried Piano In Blue?
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Post by levon on Apr 24, 2014 23:50:01 GMT -6
Ivory II works great for me. For an upright with a special character, try Imperfect Samples Brasted Upright. Beautifully weird, and I love weird...
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Apr 25, 2014 5:57:37 GMT -6
Maybe some of your dissatisfaction is not so much coming from the library as much as it is from the lack of ambience. Take for example a mediocre sounding piano recorded live in a great sounding space sounds good. It's not so much the piano that sounds good, but it's the space and how it was recorded.
I find that most of these libraries are recorded well enough but yes, they do sound fake because there's just not much room mojo going on. I'm sure they do this on purpose so that we can decide at mix time how to treat them for our own needs.
Said all that to say this, try really digging into some different reverb treatments to put that "real" feel back into it. You know most of the time we bury these piano parts as pads anyway. I've found I can get a very satisfactory result with samples but it requires creative use of room or chamber reverb.
Side note: I liken this issue to the same issue with drum sample programs. The midi that they give us to start with is always in need of tweaking. I mean, how many good drummers do you know that hits every piece of the kit with wide open velocity every time? That's how the midi starts out, wide open. So I've found I can get a very realistic sound between using velocity tweaks and reverb tweaks.
I believe midi is so useful, but it's not easy to work with. It takes effort to get everything clicking.
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Post by henge on Apr 25, 2014 6:40:21 GMT -6
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Post by delcampo on Apr 25, 2014 7:54:28 GMT -6
I reach for the imperfect stuff mostly.
Ran the upright through a long HW chain the other day & back in via B2.
It was a moving experience to behold upon hearing back.
Of course that was about 12k of HW later on top of the actual samples but, whatever it takes to get there.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 25, 2014 10:58:15 GMT -6
I have the upright - and I agree - too much ambience. Love the sound of the Steinway...but of course, no AAX/RTAS |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 25, 2014 11:00:54 GMT -6
What layer would you suggest buying?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 11:10:23 GMT -6
American Concert D for Ivory II is my go-to. Piano In Blue is also great if you want that 60's jazz sound (they sampled the piano used on all those jazz records by herbie hancock etc )
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Post by lolo on Apr 27, 2014 6:38:48 GMT -6
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Post by indiehouse on Apr 27, 2014 6:50:35 GMT -6
I've got the Pianoteq and EastWest stuff. I really like Pianoteq.
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Post by henge on Apr 27, 2014 7:40:44 GMT -6
Let us know how you like it compared to the Steinway. Off to listen to the demo. |
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