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Post by hadaja on Oct 25, 2021 22:53:30 GMT -6
Yep still using the 73 premier. But alas the pots still get scratchy after a couple of years.
It lasted longer the there red series. But the premier 73 did eventually suffer. I will need to give it a spray job. Seems to be only output gain knob.
Whats the stuff you spray knobs/pots with ? No jokes needed.
But sound wise stands up quite well to my Vintech 73 and Neve 3415 units.
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Oct 26, 2021 1:12:53 GMT -6
Yep still using the 73 premier. But alas the pots still get scratchy after a couple of years. It lasted longer the there red series. But the premier 73 did eventually suffer. I will need to give it a spray job. Seems to be only output gain knob. Whats the stuff you spray knobs/pots with ? No jokes needed. But sound wise stands up quite well to my Vintech 73 and Neve 3415 units. Detoxit - D5 i think?  Hard to get over here so I don't remember. I think both series use a generic unbranded alpha style pot. One of the reason that pots get scratchy (esp output pots) is that they sit in the one position their whole lives. |
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Post by nick8801 on Oct 26, 2021 4:03:08 GMT -6
I really dig it! Sounds the way I expect that style pre to sound. Plus it’s got some cool tone shaping options on it. Only weird thing is that I can’t leave it patched in when it’s off. It sends some kind of ground loop hum through the patch bay. I haven’t bothered to track down the problem, I just unpatch it when it’s off. Hmmmmmmmmm ! Had to do it Nick ! Haha!!!! Well done. |
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Post by Ward on Oct 26, 2021 10:00:36 GMT -6
Hmmmmmmmmm ! Had to do it Nick ! 73 circuit grounding can be problematic Aren't the output grounds supposed to float? |
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Oct 26, 2021 23:18:51 GMT -6
73 circuit grounding can be problematic Aren't the output grounds supposed to float? Yep outputs float. Input goes to 0v and then 0v to earth through 10ohm resistor. OT because i doubt it's nicks problem. The GAP does not bring the earth from their wallwart only a 2 pin AC supply, I assume that the enclosure is earthed through your 19" rack. This would mean you need at least 1 other rackmount piece of gear with a 3 pin AC supply to provide an earth to your rack (assuming you haven't earthed your rack rails separately) |
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Post by nick8801 on Oct 27, 2021 4:11:22 GMT -6
Aren't the output grounds supposed to float? Yep outputs float. Input goes to 0v and then 0v to earth through 10ohm resistor. OT because i doubt it's nicks problem. The GAP does not bring the earth from their wallwart only a 2 pin AC supply, I assume that the enclosure is earthed through your 19" rack. This would mean you need at least 1 other rackmount piece of gear with a 3 pin AC supply to provide an earth to your rack (assuming you haven't earthed your rack rails separately) Interesting. I just have the pre sitting on top of my rack. |
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Post by ericn on Oct 27, 2021 6:02:15 GMT -6
Yep outputs float. Input goes to 0v and then 0v to earth through 10ohm resistor. OT because i doubt it's nicks problem. The GAP does not bring the earth from their wallwart only a 2 pin AC supply, I assume that the enclosure is earthed through your 19" rack. This would mean you need at least 1 other rackmount piece of gear with a 3 pin AC supply to provide an earth to your rack (assuming you haven't earthed your rack rails separately) Interesting. I just have the pre sitting on top of my rack. If you want to try grounding it simply loosen a screw in the attach one end of a piece of wire to that screw, other end of the wire to the screw on a properly grounded outlet you are using. Poof your grounded. |
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Post by chessparov on Oct 27, 2021 9:00:22 GMT -6
Works on Teenagers too.
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Post by Ward on Oct 27, 2021 9:38:48 GMT -6
Works on Teenagers too. Chris Not in my experience. I've raised 3 so far, but I might be more successful with the next two. (yes, I have 5 kids) |
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Post by ericn on Oct 27, 2021 9:40:02 GMT -6
Works on Teenagers too. Chris Not in my experience. I've raised 3 so far, but I might be more successful with the next two. (yes, I have 5 kids) 1 and I’m the one with less hair go figure . |
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Post by bossanova on Oct 27, 2021 14:40:14 GMT -6
Lol… so what I’m hearing is, the 73 Premier still holds its own as a Neve clone and don’t lose sleep over picking it over a Heritage, Vintech, AMS reissue, etc
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Post by nick8801 on Oct 27, 2021 16:02:08 GMT -6
Lol… so what I’m hearing is, the 73 Premier still holds its own as a Neve clone and don’t lose sleep over picking it over a Heritage, Vintech, AMS reissue, etc Yes, sorry to get off topic. I've not had a ton of experience with all the clones out there, but I think the general consensus is that these are definitely great pres if you're looking for a 73 thing. |
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Post by ericn on Oct 27, 2021 16:55:55 GMT -6
The Gap while not in the league of Chandler, BAE,Neve reissue, etc is useable and it will not keep you from making great recordings.
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Post by bossanova on Mar 17, 2022 10:30:08 GMT -6
Hey…I picked up a Pre 73 Premier, I’m digging it. And now I’m thinking about what a pain it’s going to be for stereo synths and pedals XD
Are models in the same family (say a Pre73 Premier vs a 73 Premier DLX) likely matched enough that they can be used for stereo sources?
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Post by nick8801 on Mar 17, 2022 14:53:19 GMT -6
Hey…I picked up a Pre 73 Premier, I’m digging it. And now I’m thinking about what a pain it’s going to be for stereo synths and pedals XD Are models in the same family (say a Pre73 Premier vs a 73 Premier DLX) likely matched enough that they can be used for stereo sources? The preamp part should be identical. The extra stuff like eq's and filters will obviously be different. |
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Post by theshea on Sept 19, 2023 5:21:59 GMT -6
just ordered a premier pre73. curious to hear how it stands against my AML ez73. if good i am gonna buy some more for drum recordings.
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Post by copperx on Sept 19, 2023 10:10:54 GMT -6
just ordered a premier pre73. curious to hear how it stands against my AML ez73. if good i am gonna buy some more for drum recordings. Please tell us your impressions. I'm curious about the AML comparison. |
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Post by hadaja on Sept 19, 2023 22:51:59 GMT -6
I found there Grey premier 73 eq model not so great in the eq section and sold it a while back to get just the premier 73dlx model.
It sits on the desk as a quick go to preamp. Its quiet. It has the 1073 sound. Its better then other clones out there for more money.
The Carnhills sound fine just a little cleaner the my other neve clones.
I have no probs recommending it for pro work.
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Post by copperx on Sept 20, 2023 0:29:34 GMT -6
I found there Grey premier 73 eq model not so great in the eq section and sold it a while back to get just the premier 73dlx model. It sits on the desk as a quick go to preamp. Its quiet. It has the 1073 sound. Its better then other clones out there for more money. The Carnhills sound fine just a little cleaner the my other neve clones. I have no probs recommending it for pro work. Great. What clones are you comparing it to? |
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Post by paulcheeba on Sept 21, 2023 3:31:48 GMT -6
I got a grey pre with no eq and it sounds like my BAE’s. Similar dark tone. I also got a 47 XL and I put matching OPR K47 capsules to a Stam and they make a great pair. Not far from a Heiserman which I have a pair of.
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Post by hadaja on Sept 21, 2023 4:05:34 GMT -6
I found there Grey premier 73 eq model not so great in the eq section and sold it a while back to get just the premier 73dlx model. It sits on the desk as a quick go to preamp. Its quiet. It has the 1073 sound. Its better then other clones out there for more money. The Carnhills sound fine just a little cleaner the my other neve clones. I have no probs recommending it for pro work. Great. What clones are you comparing it to? Wow all the clones i have used lets see what i can remember . aml1073, stam73, tcm73, mki, mkii, mkii and premier gap model73, vintech273, vintech 473, vintech x73 vintech x73i, couple of hand custom made 1073’s, bae 1073, a few neve 3415,couple of neve 33415, and there is probably about another 5 x brands i have forgotten that i have had. Hope that helps. |
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Post by crillemannen on Sept 21, 2023 4:18:43 GMT -6
I found there Grey premier 73 eq model not so great in the eq section and sold it a while back to get just the premier 73dlx model. It sits on the desk as a quick go to preamp. Its quiet. It has the 1073 sound. Its better then other clones out there for more money. The Carnhills sound fine just a little cleaner the my other neve clones. I have no probs recommending it for pro work. That's my experience to. The Premier DLX is a bit cleaner then my vintage 1272 but sounds great and still have that "Neve" sound. The DlX version has an output pad so it's easy to push it if you like. |
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Post by copperx on Sept 21, 2023 23:30:29 GMT -6
Great. What clones are you comparing it to? Wow all the clones i have used lets see what i can remember . aml1073, stam73, tcm73, mki, mkii, mkii and premier gap model73, vintech273, vintech 473, vintech x73 vintech x73i, couple of hand custom made 1073’s, bae 1073, a few neve 3415,couple of neve 33415, and there is probably about another 5 x brands i have forgotten that i have had. Hope that helps. I'm especially curious about the aml1073. How does that one sound in comparison to the GAP? |
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Post by niklas1073 on Sept 22, 2023 5:07:28 GMT -6
I found there Grey premier 73 eq model not so great in the eq section and sold it a while back to get just the premier 73dlx model. It sits on the desk as a quick go to preamp. Its quiet. It has the 1073 sound. Its better then other clones out there for more money. The Carnhills sound fine just a little cleaner the my other neve clones. I have no probs recommending it for pro work. That's my experience to. The Premier DLX is a bit cleaner then my vintage 1272 but sounds great and still have that "Neve" sound. The DlX version has an output pad so it's easy to push it if you like. Just curious as I saw the pad u mention when I tool a look at the GAPs due to this thread. How does the pad differ from the output attenuator in the normal setup? |
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Post by theshea on Sept 23, 2023 9:56:07 GMT -6
just ordered a premier pre73. curious to hear how it stands against my AML ez73. if good i am gonna buy some more for drum recordings. Please tell us your impressions. I'm curious about the AML comparison. got the golden age premier pre-73 yesterday and tested it along my AML ez1073 and my spare old golden age project pre-73. first impression: the premier pre-73 is very well build, all buttons and switches are made to last. solid. i recorded a few seconds with 2 acoustic guitars (sigma j45 copy and my seagull s6) and 3 vocals (1 low and 2 high). wanted to hear how the tracks stack. no mixing, comp or eq. just some room for the guitars and chamber for the vocals as my room is dead dry. for all recordings i used only my violet design amethyst vintage mic. i recorded 2 passes for each preamp: one clean with output max on all and gain at about 40db input. second pass i tried the -14db output pad of the premier pre-73, so i adapted the other two preamps by upping the input +15db and lowering the output to have the same level. since the premier and the AML offer lo-cut, i used those on the "sat" sounds: 80Hz on both. the AML lo-cut seems to be more steep and "eat" more bass than the premier pre-73. there's a HUUUUGE difference between the older/red golden age project pre-73 and the golden age PREMIER pre-73 and the AML ez1073: the red golden age project is FAAAR behind soundwise ... the premier and the AML are both very good, though a bit different. it's hard to judge by the soundfiles as i sang and played em all a bit different. but both are great preamps! the premier i got for 300 Euro so i am gonna buy another premier pre-73 one very quick! here's the soundfiles - listen for yourself and i can send the 96kHz/wav files if you want: |
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