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Post by srb on Apr 6, 2021 10:54:40 GMT -6
Need to get me an AS 3a. I like my CAPI BT50 on everything. Warren Huart is into the DRS/Ascent EQ stuff. They are gyratory I think. I have 6 channels of them. I haven't used them a ton but they are sweet gentle EQs. I'm shooting for 8 bt50s, though. I have the Ascent Two, and the last several electric guitar sessions have been done using it. Smooth and creamy goodness. Got a 3D kinda thing happening. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Apr 6, 2021 10:57:39 GMT -6
Need to get me an AS 3a. I like my CAPI BT50 on everything. Warren Huart is into the DRS/Ascent EQ stuff. They are gyratory I think. I have 6 channels of them. I haven't used them a ton but they are sweet gentle EQs. I'm shooting for 8 bt50s, though. I have the Ascent Two, and the last several electric guitar sessions have been done using it. Smooth and creamy goodness. Got a 3D kinda thing happening. Very interesting. I'll have to try it. They are certainly smooth, the top bands have a certain bite to them, which seems to be sort of characteristic of gyrator circuits, or so I've heard.
Will have to try them more. I've used them on Vox and acoustic, drums etc. I typically like my BT50 more in most situations but, I should learn these more as I'll be mixing with them once I get more I/O etc.
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Post by srb on Apr 6, 2021 11:08:07 GMT -6
I have the Ascent Two, and the last several electric guitar sessions have been done using it. Smooth and creamy goodness. Got a 3D kinda thing happening. Very interesting. I'll have to try it. They are certainly smooth, the top bands have a certain bite to them, which seems to be sort of characteristic of gyrator circuits, or so I've heard.
Will have to try them more. I've used them on Vox and acoustic, drums etc. I typically like my BT50 more in most situations but, I should learn these more as I'll be mixing with them once I get more I/O etc.
There is just a bit of 'bite' but it's very usable. Just enough, I think, to allow the guitar to sit in nicely. You can back that up with the EQ of you don't feel it's suitable. I've used it on acoustic guitar, too, and I like it there as well. I need to try it on vox and snare. My recent go-to on snare has been the Chandler TG Channel Mkii. I like the Chandler on vox with a quality tube mic as well. |
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Post by audioscape on Apr 6, 2021 17:05:49 GMT -6
Comp: LA3a for all guitar applications, even works for bass. But a real one is too expensive, you say? No problem. Enter the dragon. The audioscape D3a or single version for 500, the V3a Where I one find this, you ask? Dual channel for under $1000 a channel: CLick HERE!Single channel for only $699!! If you have a 500 series chassis: CLICK ME INSTEAD!Why this guy sounds like a shill or evangelist for the company you say. Guilty. And not one person has ever complained yet. Marveously put!!! ;-) To the OP: I'd be looking at either an LA3A-based compressor or an 1176 that isn't SO midforward, such as our 76F. BUT - for ACOUSTIC AND ELECTRIC Guitars - the V3A (500-SERIES) or D3A (2-channel rackmount unit) is the bees knees. You can do different, but you CAN'T do better! 😍😎 Our pal Benny Grotto posted a bunch of files on the purple site that directly compare his newly purchased D3A against his vintage, Teletronix branded LA3A pair that is his FAVORITE (and this man has heard and used a LOT of different vintage 3A's over the years - he ended up keeping his beloved pair of Tele 3A's as well as a fantastic sounding pair of UREI branded 3A's). For guitars, there is a negligible different at best. Benny actually prefers the slightly extended low-end, more open top-end and slightly slower attack time of the D3A - as it makes things sound more aggressive and in your face - which is why most of us reach for a 3A-styled compressor. Me personally - I LOVE the V3A/D3A on VOCALS (think mid-late 90's and early 2000's big budget rock/punk/whatever vocal tones) and on SNARE, the V3A is TOTALLY killer, again, capturing the vibe of arguably, the last era of "big budget" records. ;-) Just my two pence! I haven't heard the GAP 3A so I can't comment - only thing I may worry about there is long-term reliability but a good amount of folks dig them, so that's cool as heck! BUTTT - if you already own a 500-series chassis, the V3A is a no-brainer, for only $179 more you get a handcrafted, USA-made product that will stand the test of time and sounds as good as any vintage LA3A out there. WOOOHOOO!! As for EQ! The IAA LH95 is BADASS, CAPI BT50 and for those not worried about rackspace, it's hard to beat the TUBE, INDUCTOR and TRANSFORMER loaded MEQ-A - also made by us ;-) Best of luck to you in your search man!! Appreciate all of the love, as always, y'all!!! 😘🙌❤🙏😍 |
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Post by mrholmes on Apr 6, 2021 17:20:52 GMT -6
If anyone's shopping LA3A plugins, the Black Rooster VLA-3A is exceptional, in my humble opinion. I did that AB thing last year with the BR3A and decided not to buy the hardware. In very rare situations the software misses to catch a transient. But hey nobody is perfect.... |
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Post by Quint on Apr 6, 2021 17:53:41 GMT -6
Those GAP 3a’s are a sweet little bargain. Yep. I have a pair and wouldn't hate another pair. They grab in a nice way and I really like the tone. Hard to argue with that for the price. I bought my pair new, but I recently saw a used pair on Reverb for $500. |
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Post by Ward on Apr 6, 2021 19:29:29 GMT -6
Need to get me an AS 3a. I like my CAPI BT50 on everything. Warren Huart is into the DRS/Ascent EQ stuff. They are gyratory I think. I have 6 channels of them. I haven't used them a ton but they are sweet gentle EQs. I'm shooting for 8 bt50s, though. Every single RGOer needs at least one audioscape 3a. It's identical to my old LA3a in every way. But in the usual standard annoying audioscape fashion, they removed all the noise. (how do they do that?) |
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Post by recordingengineer on Apr 6, 2021 22:07:16 GMT -6
Comp: LA3a for all guitar applications, even works for bass. But a real one is too expensive, you say? No problem. Enter the dragon. The audioscape D3a or single version for 500, the V3a Where I one find this, you ask? Dual channel for under $1000 a channel: CLick HERE!Single channel for only $699!! If you have a 500 series chassis: CLICK ME INSTEAD!Why this guy sounds like a shill or evangelist for the company you say. Guilty. And not one person has ever complained yet. Marveously put!!! ;-) To the OP: I'd be looking at either an LA3A-based compressor or an 1176 that isn't SO midforward, such as our 76F. BUT - for ACOUSTIC AND ELECTRIC Guitars - the V3A (500-SERIES) or D3A (2-channel rackmount unit) is the bees knees. You can do different, but you CAN'T do better! 😍😎 Our pal Benny Grotto posted a bunch of files on the purple site that directly compare his newly purchased D3A against his vintage, Teletronix branded LA3A pair that is his FAVORITE (and this man has heard and used a LOT of different vintage 3A's over the years - he ended up keeping his beloved pair of Tele 3A's as well as a fantastic sounding pair of UREI branded 3A's). For guitars, there is a negligible different at best. Benny actually prefers the slightly extended low-end, more open top-end and slightly slower attack time of the D3A - as it makes things sound more aggressive and in your face - which is why most of us reach for a 3A-styled compressor. Me personally - I LOVE the V3A/D3A on VOCALS (think mid-late 90's and early 2000's big budget rock/punk/whatever vocal tones) and on SNARE, the V3A is TOTALLY killer, again, capturing the vibe of arguably, the last era of "big budget" records. ;-) Just my two pence! I haven't heard the GAP 3A so I can't comment - only thing I may worry about there is long-term reliability but a good amount of folks dig them, so that's cool as heck! BUTTT - if you already own a 500-series chassis, the V3A is a no-brainer, for only $179 more you get a handcrafted, USA-made product that will stand the test of time and sounds as good as any vintage LA3A out there. WOOOHOOO!! As for EQ! The IAA LH95 is BADASS, CAPI BT50 and for those not worried about rackspace, it's hard to beat the TUBE, INDUCTOR and TRANSFORMER loaded MEQ-A - also made by us ;-) Best of luck to you in your search man!! Appreciate all of the love, as always, y'all!!! 😘🙌❤🙏😍 3A on snare? Oh man, I’ve gotta try it... I’ve never liked it on drums, but I’m always in +50dB mode, so that may be the issue? Being a massive LA3A lover on vocals, bass, and guitar; in limit-mode on +50 gain! I no longer have my vintage unit, but after changing a resistor on my pair of Stam units, the gain was easily corrected (didn’t have nearly enough as shipped), I’m completely satisfied and no longer miss my vintage unit. Hmmm... I do have one open 500 slot, but another two channels would also be cool! |
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Post by levon on Apr 7, 2021 5:05:57 GMT -6
3A on snare? Oh man, I’ve gotta try it... I’ve never liked it on drums, but I’m always in +50dB mode, so that may be the issue? Being a massive LA3A lover on vocals, bass, and guitar; in limit-mode on +50 gain! ... I used my LA-3A on toms recently and was great. I saw a MasterClaes video on Youtube, where he mentions that the LA-3A shines on drums and, boy, he was right. For those that are interested, here's his shootout of an LA-3A against some plugin emulations. Very enlightning. |
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Post by plinker on Apr 7, 2021 6:22:27 GMT -6
3A on snare? Oh man, I’ve gotta try it... I’ve never liked it on drums, but I’m always in +50dB mode, so that may be the issue? Being a massive LA3A lover on vocals, bass, and guitar; in limit-mode on +50 gain! ... I used my LA-3A on toms recently and was great. I saw a MasterClaes video on Youtube, where he mentions that the LA-3A shines on drums and, boy, he was right. For those that are interested, here's his shootout of an LA-3A against some plugin emulations. Very enlightning. Bad link. I’d love to watch the shootout though. |
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Post by guitfiddler on Apr 7, 2021 7:00:45 GMT -6
Awesome unit! 😁
Sold Out!!! 😫
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Post by ericn on Apr 7, 2021 9:24:11 GMT -6
La3 or the Summit comps
EQ falls into 2 Camps
Tone Machine Inductor like IAA, API, CAPI Neve, the Avedis EQ’s love EG.
Problem solver SSL, Speck or modern Neve.
A Varible HPF is the secret sauce to getting the most out of EG!
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Post by Blackdawg on Apr 7, 2021 9:51:27 GMT -6
I put the Waves LA3a plugin across my main drum buss every time. Never do much GR, like maybe 1-2dB at big parts. But it makes it sound better. Love la3as. I need to finish building the 2 other serpent units I have. Plus would love a D3a from audioscape. 8 channels of la3a might be enough...maybe.
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Post by plinker on Apr 7, 2021 9:53:18 GMT -6
La3 or the Summit comps EQ falls into 2 Camps Tone Machine Inductor like IAA, API, CAPI Neve, the Avedis EQ’s love EG. Problem solver SSL, Speck or modern Neve. A Varible HPF is the secret sauce to getting the most out of EG! I creamed an electric guitar with a TLA100 once, and it was glorious.
It was that particular guitar/amp, I guess, because I didn't have quite the same result on a different track.
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Post by ericn on Apr 7, 2021 10:05:53 GMT -6
La3 or the Summit comps EQ falls into 2 Camps Tone Machine Inductor like IAA, API, CAPI Neve, the Avedis EQ’s love EG. Problem solver SSL, Speck or modern Neve. A Varible HPF is the secret sauce to getting the most out of EG! I creamed an electric guitar with a TLA100 once, and it was glorious.
It was that particular guitar/amp, I guess, because I didn't have quite the same result on a different track.
It’s not as Universal as a LA3 or 4 but when it works it is magic. |
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Post by srb on Apr 7, 2021 10:52:10 GMT -6
Chandler Germanium Compressor is a good'un. Very versatile. I can't say enough about compressors with a wet/dry control.
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Post by levon on Apr 7, 2021 13:35:10 GMT -6
I used my LA-3A on toms recently and was great. I saw a MasterClaes video on Youtube, where he mentions that the LA-3A shines on drums and, boy, he was right. For those that are interested, here's his shootout of an LA-3A against some plugin emulations. Very enlightning. Bad link. I’d love to watch the shootout though. Funny, it worked before. Okay, Try again. |
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Post by thirdeye on Apr 7, 2021 14:10:00 GMT -6
I sometimes like to track guitars with an API preamp to a X73 for EQ to a Distressor. For the mix, I'll put our Stam SA3A's on the guitar bus. More often I won't track guitars with compression though.
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Post by levon on Apr 8, 2021 3:37:03 GMT -6
I hear you, I always track guitars without compression. And for heavy, higher gain guitars, I hardly ever use compression afterwards. Amp compression and a booster is enough. But for cleaner guitars, rhythm or funky guitars, an LA-3A works great.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 7:50:39 GMT -6
I creamed an electric guitar with a TLA100 once, and it was glorious.
It was that particular guitar/amp, I guess, because I didn't have quite the same result on a different track.
It’s not as Universal as a LA3 or 4 but when it works it is magic. The Fuse VCL-4 is one of the greatest analog modeled digital compressors ever. It might be the most useful one and is based off the programmers home brew LA4 with modern parts. All of the ratios are useful and the diy recording equipment one is missing the 4:1 one that’s sick on drums. |
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Post by jpanderson80 on Apr 8, 2021 10:10:36 GMT -6
EQ - API 550A (but that's also my answer on most things...)
Comp - Interesting that LA3 and 4 are rising to the top in this thread so strongly.
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Post by bgrotto on Apr 9, 2021 22:23:15 GMT -6
Can you Recommend me a good eq and compressor for recording electric and acoustic guitars. For rock and country style. LA3A, hands-down. The easy choice. |
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Post by sparkey on Sept 20, 2022 14:51:38 GMT -6
How about a Electrodyne 511 EQ?
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Post by recordingengineer on Sept 20, 2022 15:52:16 GMT -6
LA3A on electric and acoustic is always cool. API EQ on electric and RND Shelford acoustic does it for me. Warm WA73 is cool there too. I really would love to try the Electrodyne 511 and Heritage HA-81A on acoustic too.
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Post by ji43 on Sept 20, 2022 17:55:54 GMT -6
Overstayer FET is a phenomenal stereo 1176 style compressor, with a blend knob that works really well on guitar; and when I don't want the envelope control, Overstayer MAS gives me saturation and density, taming peaks without time based artifacts...Waiting on a pair of Miad EQs, and will be getting some BT50s in the near future to use in line with the Overstayer gear; all for acoustic and electric guitars primarily.
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